fsmithred | novemberrain, if you're going from jessie to ascii, you should be seeing python-apt 0.9.3.12 getting upgraded to 1.4.0~beta3. Where did you get the 1.1? | 00:00 |
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golinux | ChuangTzu: pm | 00:02 |
novemberrain | ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | 00:02 |
fsmithred | how did you install jessie, and what have you done to her in the meantime? | 00:04 |
novemberrain | i might have installed a backported version? i have 1.4.18.7 now | 00:04 |
novemberrain | i'm using jessie for some 2 years now | 00:05 |
fsmithred | that version is not in any backports repo (jessie, ascii or stretch) | 00:05 |
fsmithred | maybe you pulled it from testing or sid some time ago? | 00:06 |
fsmithred | sid/ceres has 1.6.1 now | 00:06 |
fsmithred | can you paste your sources.list somewhere (not here) | 00:07 |
novemberrain | i'm sure i installed a newer firejail from debian repos, but i didn't mess with sources, just downloaded it "manually" | 00:07 |
fsmithred | what repo you using? | 00:07 |
fsmithred | now | 00:08 |
golinux | novemberrain: Use fsmithred's firemenu. Much easier on the eyes | 00:08 |
novemberrain | i don't remember doing the same with gnupg, but there's a non-zero chance i did it | 00:08 |
fsmithred | are you using auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged ascii? | 00:09 |
fsmithred | or something else -if so, what? | 00:09 |
novemberrain | all the sources i'm using now are pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged ascii | 00:09 |
fsmithred | ok, that should work | 00:10 |
fsmithred | what version of gnupg is currently installed? | 00:10 |
novemberrain | the thing is, when i do apt-get update, i see a lot of write errors and/or broken pipes | 00:11 |
novemberrain | but that sometimes happened before | 00:11 |
fsmithred | hard drive failing? | 00:11 |
novemberrain | and never interfered with upgrades | 00:11 |
novemberrain | now you're really cheering me up! | 00:12 |
fsmithred | so, what version of gnupg you got? | 00:13 |
novemberrain | gnupg: Installed: 1.4.18-7+deb8u5 Candidate: 2.1.18-8~deb9u2 | 00:13 |
fsmithred | ok, you have the version from jessie-security, and it wants to install the ascii verion. That's good. | 00:14 |
novemberrain | python-apt: Installed: 0.9.3.12 Candidate: 1.4.0~beta3 | 00:15 |
fsmithred | yeah, maybe try 'apt-get install python-apt=1.4.0~beta3' | 00:16 |
fsmithred | other things to try: 'apt-get upgrade' before doing dist-upgrade; aptitude safe-upgrade and aptitude full-upgrade may give you more options. | 00:20 |
fsmithred | back in a few minutes | 00:20 |
novemberrain | ok, i had to remove the other 2 offending packages but now it looks like it's gonna work | 00:23 |
novemberrain | i mean, installing python-apt=1.4.0~beta3 - upgrading and installing a total of 200MB packages | 00:24 |
novemberrain | hmm, but it also wants a number of packages removed, including libreoffice; i'd rather keep it | 00:25 |
fsmithred | maybe you need to also install the exact versions of the packages you removed | 00:27 |
fsmithred | what were they? | 00:28 |
novemberrain | there's a ton of packages for upgrade, install and removal | 00:28 |
novemberrain | it wants aptitude removed | 00:29 |
fsmithred | what were the other two offending packages you removed? | 00:33 |
novemberrain | is it safer to go with "apt-get upgrade" (non-dist), or "aptitude safe-upgrade"? | 00:34 |
novemberrain | eric & openscad | 00:34 |
fsmithred | they are roughly the same | 00:34 |
fsmithred | ok, hang on | 00:34 |
novemberrain | it was "libstdc++6 : Breaks: openscad (<= 2014.03+dfsg-1+b1) but 2014.03+dfsg-1 is to be installed" | 00:35 |
novemberrain | and "python3-pyqt4 : Breaks: eric (< 6.0~) but 5.4.5-1 is to be installed" | 00:35 |
novemberrain | it seems that apt-get upgrade will work | 00:36 |
novemberrain | with a lot of packages to upgrade and a lot of packages held back - this is fine, right? | 00:36 |
fsmithred | yes | 00:37 |
fsmithred | try that first | 00:37 |
refracta_noob | so every time I come across something I need to do that requires root permissions, am I going to have to write a polkit rule for it? | 00:46 |
refracta_noob | and why shouldn't I write a rule to let me do anything ever? it's not really helping me do anything at this point, it's getting in my way if anything. | 00:47 |
SuicideJunkie | Looking at the new Ascii installer. Got a devuan banner at the top and green progress bars now. | 00:51 |
LunaLovegood | Is it normal that "apt-get install openssh-server" wants to install libsystemd0 ? | 00:51 |
SuicideJunkie | For the person who was asking last night, in the manual paritioning menu, there's a separate option for delete data, and delete the partition entirely when you select it. | 00:51 |
SuicideJunkie | Not sure where the problem is, but I'm not actually going to press delete myself since I want those partitions to stay :) | 00:52 |
refracta_noob | LunaLovegood: https://devuan.org/os/issues see bottom section of that page | 00:53 |
golinux | LunaLovegood: Or this https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=1925 | 00:57 |
fsmithred | refracta_noob, su, then run whatever commands or apps you need from that terminal | 00:58 |
refracta_noob | it won't open that way unfortunately, complains that "Connection refused"..."cannot open display: 0" | 01:00 |
refracta_noob | gksu doesn't work either | 01:01 |
refracta_noob | ah, setting DISPLAY=:0 made it work... but this is unusual behavior...how can I make this act more predictable? I'd like to roll this install into a refracta image eventually | 01:03 |
fsmithred | I don't know what the problem is | 01:04 |
fsmithred | refracta_noob, what did you install and how did you install (the system)? | 01:38 |
SuicideJunkie | So, I'm installing a fresh machine with Ascii, and looking at this nvidia-driver package that puts up a page of problems. | 03:06 |
SuicideJunkie | And nvidia-driver-bin seems to claim it is a dependency of itself? That's wacky. | 03:07 |
refracta_noob | ah... ok running lxpolkit solved my thunar polkit woes I think | 03:08 |
refracta_noob | but I wonder if I shouldn't say something to the Refracta project ppl? since it doesn't appear lxpolkit is installed by default acutally | 03:09 |
fsmithred | you just did | 03:09 |
refracta_noob | oh cool | 03:10 |
fsmithred | you're running the ascii beta2 ? | 03:10 |
fsmithred | the one with lxdm | 03:10 |
fsmithred | and xfce | 03:10 |
refracta_noob | SuicideJunkie: is the package for a proprietary version of the driver? why not use the one on nvidia's site in that case? | 03:11 |
refracta_noob | looks like the xfce one | 03:12 |
fsmithred | so what can you do now that you couldn't before adding lxpolkit? | 03:13 |
refracta_noob | i used this iso: refracta8.3_xfce_amd64-20170305_0250.iso | 03:13 |
fsmithred | I haven't tried it with xfce | 03:13 |
fsmithred | oh! | 03:13 |
fsmithred | jessie | 03:13 |
refracta_noob | i can mount the internal drives in my pc from thunar now | 03:13 |
fsmithred | there's no gvfs in that one. That's why you don't get drive icons on the dekstop. | 03:13 |
fsmithred | cool. | 03:14 |
refracta_noob | oh no I got the icons I just wasn't "authorized to perform this action" or something | 03:14 |
refracta_noob | I guess there was no agent running which is why i got the message about no cookie for the session | 03:14 |
fsmithred | what about a trash icon? | 03:14 |
gnarface | SuicideJunkie: aside from the obvious lack of interest in making a decent package, they also might have problems resolving conflicts with mesa stuff without help | 03:14 |
refracta_noob | yep and it works fsmithred | 03:14 |
gnarface | SuicideJunkie: (that might get rid of some of that page of complaints) | 03:15 |
fsmithred | you got trash with lxpolkit, or you had it before? | 03:15 |
SuicideJunkie | It is the metapackage that looked pretty top level and plausible. | 03:15 |
refracta_noob | I think I had it before I'll try logging out eventually and see if I need to just add lxpolkit to startup programs | 03:15 |
fsmithred | is libsystemd0 installed?? | 03:16 |
SuicideJunkie | I was hoping to use a package manager'ed driver rather than the binary, as the discussion was going last week. | 03:16 |
refracta_noob | I plan on rolling a TWM version of this iso for myself and I'll probably start lxpolkit with .xsession for that | 03:16 |
SuicideJunkie | I've just installed fresh from the dvd iso, and added non-free to the repos, so there may be some stuff I'm missing there. | 03:18 |
fsmithred | good luck playing with the polkit stuff. You may be in for some surprises. | 03:19 |
fsmithred | um, I'm thinking of ascii. | 03:19 |
refracta_noob | I think I may not have any more problems with it now that lxpolkit is running | 03:19 |
fsmithred | you're probably safe in jessie. But in ascii, it's kind of a mine field. | 03:19 |
refracta_noob | ah | 03:20 |
fsmithred | if you install one desktop environment with its task package, you're safe | 03:20 |
refracta_noob | well I'll probably end up installing it and see if I can help at all | 03:20 |
fsmithred | if you start mixing stuff from different desktops, there can be some conflicts or pieces that don't work, like mounting drives or shutdown/reboot buttons | 03:21 |
SuicideJunkie | Perhaps I should go back to Jessie and see how that rolls? I was under the impression that the stable=ASCII meant it was more settled, but video drivers are some of the least mellow things. | 03:22 |
refracta_noob | hm. I just use TWM and Thunar. works pretty well for me so far on BSDs and the Big 7 | 03:22 |
fsmithred | simple is good | 03:23 |
refracta_noob | SuicideJunkie: I'm using the nvidia installer from the website, latest stable branch for my GTX960, on Jessie and it's really great right now | 03:23 |
SuicideJunkie | v637.44 or such? | 03:24 |
refracta_noob | I found a github version of TWM that applies Eeri Kask's patches which add Xft support and compositing... it's really nice. I'm going to try and use it for practice with d1h. | 03:24 |
SuicideJunkie | That's what I was using just before. | 03:25 |
refracta_noob | 390.67 | 03:25 |
refracta_noob | http://www.nvidia.com/object/unix.html | 03:25 |
SuicideJunkie | Ooop. Flip and swap those numbers, yeah | 03:26 |
Leander | what kind of problem do you have by the way? | 03:26 |
SuicideJunkie | Leander: me? | 03:26 |
Leander | yes | 03:27 |
refracta_noob | that reminds me, will I be able to preserve my nvidia driver install, xorg.conf, and the nouveau blacklisting, with refracta2usb or would that be more a job for refracta snapshot? | 03:27 |
SuicideJunkie | Just ran the ASCII installer, and was trying to install the nvidia driver package thru synaptic | 03:28 |
Leander | I have an ascii machine with nvidia-driver at work, but I upgraded from jessie, so it's not exactly your case | 03:28 |
SuicideJunkie | Was previously having trouble building kodi, and figured it might help | 03:29 |
Leander | ok, but then what happens with synaptic? do you get error messages? | 03:32 |
SuicideJunkie | Long list of dependencies that won't or can't be installed | 03:32 |
fsmithred | yes, your nvidia driver will be copied into the snapshot | 03:35 |
SuicideJunkie | marking nvidia-driver: nvidia-installer-cleanup is not installable, nvidia-settings is not installable, nvidia-support is not installable. | 03:35 |
refracta_noob | fsmithred: nice, thanks | 03:36 |
Jjp137 | are you missing contrib? | 03:36 |
Jjp137 | in your sources.list, that is | 03:36 |
Leander | SuicideJunkie ^ | 03:39 |
SuicideJunkie | Very probable actually | 03:39 |
SuicideJunkie | Also I don't understand why nvidia-driver-bins reports itself as a conflict :) | 03:42 |
SuicideJunkie | But that was the thing I was missing it seems. | 03:42 |
Leander | it's 2018 and the package manager still can't tell you clearly "I can't find this package" | 03:43 |
SuicideJunkie | On a completely different note? Apparently ASCII + cinnamon comes with the app-search menu thing baked in, and so far it looks like it is sufficiently searchy for parents and sporty-bro | 03:44 |
SuicideJunkie | I think I prefer the LX styling, but I'll be using it too for deduplication of tech support tasks. :) | 03:45 |
SuicideJunkie | Ah, beautiful volumetric clouds around kerbin with no lag. | 03:57 |
SuicideJunkie | Thanks a bunch again! | 03:58 |
refracta_noob | nice | 03:59 |
novemberrain | my upgrade went mostly fine; processing monkeysphere returned an error and it looks like dbus wants me to reboot | 04:17 |
novemberrain | i guess i'll try to dist-upgrade after the reboot | 04:18 |
novemberrain | fsmithred, thank you for your help! | 04:19 |
underd0g | morning guys | 07:16 |
underd0g | I have a most unusual problem | 07:17 |
underd0g | I just realised my guake is not showing users as logged in | 07:17 |
underd0g | so , basically "w" or "who" shows nobody , as if I am not logged in | 07:18 |
underd0g | like , I am a ghost in my own shell :D | 07:19 |
underd0g | now I'll have to check my other systems to see if this is devuan-specific | 07:19 |
aitor | g'morning | 11:17 |
aitor | today i'm finishing the code of the netstatus icon for simple-netaid | 11:17 |
aitor | it's working fine | 11:17 |
aitor | witten in c and using code taken from the LxDE project, at the same taken from the applet gnome2 | 11:18 |
aitor | *written | 11:18 |
aitor | i reduced the code a lot just for ours needs | 11:19 |
aitor | it's working pretty fine | 11:19 |
aitor | it gives te following data: | 11:20 |
aitor | - The names of the devices (renamed or not) saying if thay are wired or wireless | 11:21 |
filipdevuan | hey somebody here sent me a link last week to the topic where guy writes about protonmail.com secure e-mail selling your data to other companies, what link was it lol | 11:21 |
filipdevuan | ill find it | 11:21 |
aitor | - In the case of a wired connection says if the cables is plugged or unplugged (the code doesn't depend neither on ifplugd nor on devplug) | 11:22 |
aitor | - The status of the connection, giving also the IP Address, the Broadcast, the Netmask, etc... | 11:24 |
aitor | the code doesn't depend on ifupdown | 11:24 |
aitor | time to coffee, see you :) | 11:24 |
aitor | filipdevuan: somebody uses a protonmail account here... chillfan, maybe? | 11:26 |
aitor | bbl | 11:26 |
filipdevuan | somebody said here they sell your data to other companies | 11:26 |
filipdevuan | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17258203 | 11:26 |
filipdevuan | found it :) | 11:26 |
xrogaan | might be fud | 15:47 |
ivanshmakov | Curiously, where’s the Devuan BTS? (Is there?) | 15:50 |
ivanshmakov | Oh, got it, nevermind. | 15:53 |
ivanshmakov | And one more question: ‘Devuan 2.0 ASCII is available for i386’ – does i386 here mean i686 /or/ i586? | 15:57 |
gnarface | it would be the same as debian, probably | 15:59 |
ivanshmakov | gnarface: Debian moved to i686 with Stretch. Unfortunately (for me), I still have the hardware that I’d like to run GNU/Linux on /which/ is i586. | 16:02 |
gnarface | ivanshmakov: i think you may only need to rebuild the kernel | 16:04 |
ivanshmakov | gnarface: They’ve changed the GCC to emit i686 code by default along the way, so that won’t work, alas. | 16:05 |
gnarface | bummer | 16:06 |
ivanshmakov | I don’t need thousands of packages (little sense in running KDE or Firefox on i586), but I guess I’m going to make my own limited port at some point. | 16:07 |
ivanshmakov | Other than that, I hope to explore GNU/Linux on ARM in the forthcoming months. With all the Intel ME / AMD PSP / AMD AGASA business and such going on, amd64 seems to grow less comfortable a platform by the day. | 16:10 |
refracta_noob | ivanshmakov: I've used a Rockchip based TV stick pretty comfortably as a PC/X thin client. Not bad tbh. | 16:28 |
ivanshmakov | refracta_noob: Does it require non-free software (or firmware)? Frankly, I’ve been looking at the things listed at https://wiki.debian.org/CheapServerBoxHardware; particularly Olinuxino. (OSHW, too.) | 16:40 |
refracta_noob | There's usually a gpu blob but I think there's official free support of Mali400 GPUs which are super common on lots of ARM boards | 16:58 |
refracta_noob | in the case of Rockchip, there's this: https://github.com/rockchip-linux | 16:59 |
refracta_noob | wait it might not be truly "free" | 17:01 |
refracta_noob | (the Mali support) | 17:01 |
EHeM | Once systemd is fully ripped out, next thing should be spreading the libtool love, shrinking the number of libraries *depended* upon (sure, can still be suggested or recommended, but making them non-required should shrink the minimum distribution greatly). | 17:23 |
KatolaZ | EHeM: you are welcome to help | 17:47 |
KatolaZ | wishing is cheap :) | 17:48 |
lall- | partially unrelated.. just was thinking which distros has no systemd. does gentoo has systemd now ? i remember it used to use openrc | 17:53 |
lall- | it was slackware, gentoo (and now devuan) | 17:54 |
lall- | but not sure if the former 2 sold out or what | 17:54 |
KatolaZ | lall-: http://without-systemd.org/wiki/index.php/Linux_distributions_without_systemd | 18:01 |
lall- | good resource. ok gentoo can be configured, slackware don't have it at all. | 18:06 |
lall- | it's still mind blowing to me how that abomination got wide spread adoption like that. surely has been discussed many times but still.. mind blowing. | 18:09 |
KatolaZ | lall-: get over it | 18:12 |
KatolaZ | and move on :) | 18:12 |
lall- | nah, i got over it.. just thinking out loud. i even know how it creeped in into everything. there was a good article about redhat and how they wanted this for reasons that are microsoft-esque | 18:14 |
lall- | but it's the others.. that jumped on it. if this stuff was more in mainstream, there would be conspiracy theories floating about. | 18:20 |
ivanshmakov | KatolaZ: Re. ‘are open source (accessible source code available for the content of the distributed IMG or ISO)’: that /doesn’t/ quite match what The Open Source Definition (http://opensource.org/osd) says. (AIUI, FSF doesn’t like the term for exactly this kind of confusion it brings.) | 18:32 |
KatolaZ | ivanshmakov: uh? | 18:37 |
KatolaZ | what are you talking about? | 18:37 |
ivanshmakov | KatolaZ: The second criterion at the top of http://without-systemd.org/wiki/index.php/Linux_distributions_without_systemd. | 18:42 |
KatolaZ | ivanshmakov: I am not responsible for that page | 18:45 |
KatolaZ | :) | 18:45 |
KatolaZ | lall- asked for a list of linux distros without systemd | 18:45 |
KatolaZ | that page have quite a few | 18:45 |
KatolaZ | period | 18:45 |
lall- | actually.. i know there's a lot, but i'm thinking more in terms of distros that you can actually provision on servers, and have up2date packages etc. | 18:45 |
lall- | tbh, never used slackware on servers. or at home. | 18:46 |
ivanshmakov | KatolaZ: I wasn’t implying you’re like ‘responsible’ responsible. Still, you /obviously/ do know about it, and it didn’t seem too big a stretch to guess that you may know the people behind it, to whom you may point out the issue. (And it’s a wiki, too.) | 18:48 |
lall- | and tbh, things like "cucumber linux" .. i don't take it seriously enough to even consider using it on a production system | 18:49 |
lall- | and that list is full of examples such as that. | 18:49 |
lall- | which is why i singled out slackware and gentoo | 18:50 |
lall- | i can already see faces of my clients with whom i work.. after telling them to use cucumber linux as their main server OS. | 18:52 |
lall- | hypothetically | 18:52 |
lall- | this was btw the coolest 'distro' i ever used on a router http://www.fdlinux.com/ ... it was an crappy old pentium 486 with only a floppy disk drive.. that i converted into a router that ran this distro that had wvdial on it, and used it during the 33.6k modem times. | 18:56 |
lall- | to share internet onto 2 other computers i had at home | 18:56 |
lall- | i kinda admired it back then, in early 2000s.. live linux on a 1.4 mB floppy. never mind now.. but that's history. nobody in their right mind would even consider it anymore. | 18:59 |
KatolaZ | lall-: you have devuan now | 19:00 |
lall- | indeed | 19:00 |
KatolaZ | or the name is too funny for your clients? :D | 19:00 |
lall- | heh.. depends how you pronounce it :) but don't underestimate managements shallowness and affinity toward 'how something looks like' | 19:02 |
lall- | so bcuz of that you have companies that pack some crap in and name it nicely, put a logo on it.. market it.. and everybody jumps on it. like RHEL. | 19:04 |
lall- | and trust me, if i say to some of my clients Red Hat Enterprise Linux and Cucumber Linux .. guess which one they going to go for ? | 19:04 |
lall- | not just me, i'm just talking out of my experience .. i'm sure many people dealt with non techy management here, and cringed how shallow these people are. | 19:06 |
lall- | great example is gimp. this one time i suggested to some guy to use gimp .. to do some stuff on some images. man.. people that were there started talking about pulp fiction and that guy .. that lived in Zeds chest | 19:08 |
lall- | and it was kinda occuring joke from that time. every time they had to do stuff on images, they said "just gimp it". | 19:09 |
lall- | with a humorous tone. | 19:09 |
lall- | unlije "photoshop it" | 19:09 |
lall- | which was something "serious" people do. | 19:10 |
Gup | hello all! i've just followed this https://devuan.org/os/documentation/dev1fanboy/upgrade-to-ascii and all seems to have gone well, however apt is listing a lot of packages it wants to autoremove: https://pad.riseup.net/p/devuan-tmp | 19:14 |
Gup | a few of these I'm pretty sure I want, like vlc, arduino | 19:15 |
Gup | i've had similar before when moving between dist releases and autoremoved loads of packages I actually wanted | 19:16 |
Gup | any ideas what have i done wrong and how can i fix it? | 19:16 |
lall- | i'm not 100% sure, i don't use devuan yet, but i do use deb based distros ... and it seems like you removed somehow some package that all those depend on it. aptitude keep-all will 'fix it' but not really. more like mark all the packages as not for removal.. in which case you might have some packages that you really don't need. but in any case, i would think that's an effect of a bigger problem. you removed something you shouldn't have | 19:20 |
lall- | the underlying problem would still be there, but you can try .. dpkg --purge vlc, and then apt-get install vlc .. in which case it will install that missing package | 19:22 |
lall- | vlc being a package that share a dependency with other packages that autoremove wants to delete. | 19:22 |
Gup | yeah i'd suspected similar, but i couldnt work out which meta package i'd removed! | 19:23 |
Gup | wonder if there is a way to tell why they are marked for removal? | 19:24 |
Gup | this is after a dist-upgrade from jessie to ascii, so you kind of expect a lot of package removals | 19:24 |
Gup | but i've been burned by this before, hence reading the list a bit closer ;) | 19:24 |
Gup | as you say, i could just keep-all, i do like a lean system though | 19:25 |
lall- | you "upgraded" from debian jessie to devuan ? | 19:25 |
Gup | na, devuan jessie to ascii | 19:25 |
g4570n | apt-get install vlc-bin will mark it as installed manually, I can do this with other packages that I want to keep and try updating again | 19:25 |
lall- | ah. | 19:26 |
lall- | and the system starts and works normally ? after reboot and such ? | 19:26 |
Gup | g4570n, i did this last time but obviously missed something critical as system didnt boot after the autoremove | 19:27 |
Gup | lall-, yeah reboots fine atm | 19:27 |
Gup | there are a lot of libs there i dont recognise | 19:27 |
lall- | what does apt-get -f install say ? | 19:27 |
Gup | nothing to install | 19:28 |
lall- | and your sources.list are ok ? plus you did apt-get update after | 19:29 |
lall- | what's your sources.list | 19:29 |
Gup | yeah i followed https://devuan.org/os/documentation/dev1fanboy/upgrade-to-ascii | 19:29 |
Gup | except i'm using auto.mirror.devuan.org | 19:30 |
ivanshmakov | Gup: First of all, I’d suggest checking if the $ apt-mark showmanual output has all the packages you do want installed. | 19:30 |
lall- | you should paste your sources.list | 19:31 |
lall- | (complete, not just what you put in) | 19:31 |
ivanshmakov | If there’s anything missing, you could add it with # apt-mark manual -- packagename(s), – or with # apt-get install (like g4570n suggested.) | 19:33 |
Gup | lall-, it literally is just those 4, i've pasted at the top of https://pad.riseup.net/p/devuan-tmp anyway | 19:33 |
ivanshmakov | Gup: JFTR, I don’t seem to be able to read that page with Lynx. | 19:33 |
Gup | ivanshmakov, g4570n, i think thats the best bet, it doesnt look like too much missing | 19:35 |
Gup | i've got good backup so hopefully i dont break anything | 19:36 |
Gup | i've done similar before and had to add back things like the xserver and slim! :/ | 19:36 |
Gup | that time i missed something critical and it wouldnt boot | 19:36 |
Gup | this time they are not listed so maybe its not so difficult | 19:37 |
Gup | ivanshmakov, thanks for the compatibility tip, there is probably some JS on that page ;) | 19:37 |
lall- | tbh last time i had those kind of problems it was redhat 4.2 or something, rpm hell kind of a thing. so i'm quite curious to know what's causing yours. | 19:38 |
lall- | because apt-get was quite resilliant to that kind of stuff. | 19:39 |
ivanshmakov | Gup: I don’t mind about /some/ JS (like on, say, Wikipedia); the problem is that there seem to be /no payload/ on that page. (I presume it gets loaded with JS.) | 19:39 |
Gup | lall-, me too cos i'm usually quite careful! | 19:41 |
g4570n | Gup: some alternatives to paste: https://ptpb.pw and https://transfer.sh | 19:42 |
Gup | ivanshmakov, does Lynx execute any js? but yeah, some content would have been good :/ its an etherpad instance | 19:43 |
ivanshmakov | Gup: Nope, it doesn’t. | 19:43 |
Gup | was just about to ask what the latest pastebin was | 19:43 |
ivanshmakov | FWIW, I’ve succesfully used http://pastebin.ca/ and http://pastebin.anope.org/ with Lynx – including posting from the latter. | 19:45 |
Gup | transfer.sh looks awesome :) | 19:47 |
Gup | it doesnt look like anything other than vlc and arduino then , this is whats left https://transfer.sh/HhReR/tmp.txt | 20:08 |
Gup | i dont recognise any of that, except i think i use evince, so i'm going to remove and reboot | 20:08 |
Gup | well, still boots :) i can install anything else i come across, thanks | 20:30 |
g4570n | :) | 20:41 |
sacioz | hi all | 20:51 |
ChuangTzu | :) | 23:14 |
golinux | ChuangTzu: You wike up! | 23:22 |
golinux | woke really | 23:22 |
ChuangTzu | lol...sat down, watched a little television after dinner and passed out... | 23:29 |
golinux | Shall we continue? | 23:29 |
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