| refracta_noob | freem, you were saying yesterday something about needing to open up X? | 00:20 |
|---|---|---|
| refracta_noob | on startup or something like that I think | 00:22 |
| refracta_noob | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XSplash this is ancient but maybe it's hackable? | 00:23 |
| buZz | there's also some bootsplash support in kernel, isnt there? | 00:38 |
| buZz | oh, i think thats mostly 'dont touch the fbdev output, there might already be a picture from bootloader' | 00:40 |
| fsmithred | Gup, don't use auto.mirror.devuan.org for ascii. Use deb.devuan.org | 02:52 |
| aitor | hi | 13:22 |
| aitor | i uploaded the code of the netstatus plugin: | 13:27 |
| aitor | gnuinos.org/netdev/ | 13:27 |
| aitor | install libiw-dev and ethtool and build it, then just run: | 13:28 |
| aitor | ./netdev_info | 13:28 |
| aitor | if a concret device is connected, you'll get status=CONNECTED | 13:29 |
| aitor | if the ethernet cable is plugged, you'll get plugged=YES | 13:30 |
| aitor | etc... | 13:30 |
| aitor | i need testers, thanks in advance :) | 13:31 |
| aitor | the code detects if the cable is plugged/unplugged even being disconneted; this will be useful for the automatically connect option | 13:33 |
| aitor | this file uses code taken from the netstat plug-in of the LXPanel: | 13:36 |
| aitor | https://git.lxde.org/gitweb/?p=lxde/lxpanel-plugins.git;a=tree;f=netstat/src;h=fceb89ad1882668d198961a49c4122f28193cb04;hb=HEAD | 13:36 |
| aitor | bbl | 13:37 |
| gnu_srs1 | aitor: s/concret/concrete/ | 13:37 |
| buZz | i sadly have zero concrete networkdevices | 13:55 |
| buZz | seems they're all plastic, metal and circuitboards | 13:55 |
| xrogaan | is it possible to get rid of some of the log spam in auth.log? Stuff like: CRON[17553]: pam_unix(cron:session): session opened for user root by (uid=0) | 14:02 |
| xrogaan | repeated every 5 minutes | 14:02 |
| gnu_srs1 | buZz: Maybe real is a better word ;) | 14:02 |
| xrogaan | it probably comes from sysstat | 14:07 |
| xrogaan | this runs every 5 minutes. I have no idea why I have sysstat installed (root) CMD (command -v debian-sa1 > /dev/null && debian-sa1 1 1) | 14:08 |
| xrogaan | seems important, too bad. | 14:09 |
| xrogaan | the backports have this in the changelog: set Rules-Requires-Root to "no"; | 14:11 |
| xrogaan | I wonder if that disable the root login spam too. | 14:11 |
| xrogaan | actually, sysstat is disabled. The command runs for nothing. | 14:18 |
| buZz | no crontab for root | 14:18 |
| buZz | dno | 14:18 |
| xrogaan | yeah crontab for root > /etc/cron.d/sysstat | 14:18 |
| xrogaan | is a system task under root. | 14:19 |
| aitor | thanks for your attention, concretly to gnu_srs1! | 15:29 |
| aitor | aka ****** *****ll | 15:35 |
| buZz | man, i wish i understood Fontforge better | 15:48 |
| buZz | https://i.imgur.com/8r8vsik.png | 15:48 |
| buZz | this is horrible :P | 15:48 |
| aitor | buZz: are you trying to design a new font type? | 15:54 |
| aitor | you are bold! | 15:54 |
| buZz | aitor: i actually already designed it | 15:55 |
| aitor | huh | 15:55 |
| buZz | now just messing with fontforge to make a .psf out of it | 15:55 |
| buZz | aitor: i designed it for this ; https://i.imgur.com/TYBHxbY.jpg | 15:58 |
| buZz | (to get 64 characters on 16 8x8 panels) | 15:58 |
| xrogaan | eew, dirty | 15:59 |
| buZz | thanks | 15:59 |
| buZz | clean desks are signs of wasted minds | 15:59 |
| xrogaan | also cable hell. | 15:59 |
| buZz | xrogaan: http://bigthink.com/1000-words/einsteins-last-desk | 16:00 |
| aitor | lol, where is his violin? he liked Mozart | 16:14 |
| buZz | probably at home and not at his job? | 16:19 |
| aitor | there is board, seems to be a classroom, but his room was similar (i bought his biography, together with others...) | 16:24 |
| aitor | oppenheimer (manhattan project), feynmann... | 16:26 |
| buZz | well, whiteboards didnt exist back then | 16:27 |
| buZz | most offices of scientists today have whiteboards | 16:27 |
| aitor | landau... he had a tragic death, due to a traffic accident | 16:28 |
| aitor | he worked with niels bohr | 16:29 |
| aitor | need to go, be back later :) | 16:34 |
| buZz | ciao | 16:34 |
| aitor | ciao | 16:34 |
| filipdevuan | hey im not experienced user but devuan is the best os iv ever used so far, everything works so great and yet there are no crashes and stuff like that | 16:47 |
| filipdevuan | windows 10 after iv installed diablo 3 path of exile and used internet for a week like i did now with devuan was 50 times slowlier, and i really mean it, 50 times slowlier its unbelieveable | 16:48 |
| gnarface | isn't it strange how rare this knowledge is? | 16:53 |
| filipdevuan | yeah | 16:55 |
| filipdevuan | it is very strange. the first thing was too many useless stuff on windows 10 running in background | 16:56 |
| filipdevuan | then i was reading lots about corporates spying on people via internet | 16:56 |
| filipdevuan | so after few days of researching i discovered that apparently the best OS is one without systemd so i had no systemd linux list and tried devuan and now devuan is part of my life ;) | 16:56 |
| buZz | :) cool | 16:57 |
| filipdevuan | but weird stuff is when i deleted windows 10 to install linux i thought so im never gonna play diablo 3 again and now this game runs better on devuan than it did on win10 hahah | 16:57 |
| g4570n | welcome aboard :) | 16:58 |
| filipdevuan | im glad that i found this | 16:59 |
| filipdevuan | distro | 16:59 |
| filipdevuan | i have a gaming laptop now not because of hardware but because of software xD | 17:01 |
| filipdevuan | my friend asked me if game called crysis 3 would run on linux | 17:01 |
| filipdevuan | i said yeah its a matter of configuration, libraries and scripts | 17:01 |
| g4570n | you use wine? | 17:02 |
| filipdevuan | yeaah. ;D of course i play diablo 3 on highest details ;D. When i put no fps limit i had some issues with cpu temperature lol my laptop was going to explode | 17:03 |
| filipdevuan | but its a laptop so its not a matter of devuan no, its diablo 3 and a hardware | 17:04 |
| filipdevuan | but when i put fps limit like 120-150 then core temp is like 70-75 celcius degrees so its ok | 17:04 |
| filipdevuan | the only thing that i regret is that i bought laptop with windows 10 preinstalled however iv seen ones without os for the price that i paid for the one iv got right now | 17:06 |
| filipdevuan | and the only difference is 4gb more ram memory and intel i7 instead of i5. But i cant wait till ill have funds to make proper gaming PC and of course devuan gonna be on it ;). I dont really know better OS than this one, never experienced better one in my life... | 17:07 |
| g4570n | what graphics card do you have? Intel? | 17:08 |
| filipdevuan | i have optimus card intel hd and geforce 940mx. im glad that my laptop can handle diablo 3 on highest though... the only difference between pc and this laptop would be just more fps because of better cooling i think | 17:08 |
| filipdevuan | i wonder whats the best gpu for linux though, iv always wanted to try amd processors and ati radeons to get off from nvidia and especially intel | 17:09 |
| g4570n | I heard that AMD is doing very well, but I have not tried it | 17:11 |
| filipdevuan | one guy told me that amd has problems with overheating but not sure if its true, but im not fan of intel ;P | 17:11 |
| g4570n | Do your graphics cards have DDR or HBM memories? | 17:11 |
| filipdevuan | but right now when i have devuan i just prefer to run windows games that i like instead of using it for gnu and free software purposes... | 17:12 |
| filipdevuan | oh im not sure how can i check it? | 17:12 |
| g4570n | try looking for model specifications on the internet | 17:13 |
| filipdevuan | ddr3 gddr5 | 17:15 |
| g4570n | nice! | 17:16 |
| filipdevuan | yeah im very happy and excited with what my laptop can run on linux devuan, really... | 17:16 |
| filipdevuan | and the performance | 17:16 |
| filipdevuan | like too happy i mean | 17:16 |
| filipdevuan | anyways im back to gaming have a nice day ;) | 17:24 |
| u0_a75 | sup guys | 18:37 |
| SuicideJunkie | Hi everybody. I've gotten myself down another rabbit hole :) | 18:44 |
| SuicideJunkie | Long story short, Google changed their OAuth policies, and so in order to unlock my android phone after that factory reset, I need to sideload Marshmallow first. | 18:46 |
| SuicideJunkie | Got the ADB package on my Devuan Jessie box here, but the phone says it needs v32 rather than v31. | 18:46 |
| SuicideJunkie | I tried poking it with the ASCII box, and while that has a newer ADB version, it also doesn't recognize the phone properly over USB. | 18:47 |
| SuicideJunkie | So, to sum up, I need to get a minimally newer ADB package onto this box to save my phone. | 18:48 |
| filipdevuan | the best solution for this is to stop using google services and products and then theres no problem ;) | 18:51 |
| SuicideJunkie | The first step of that would be installing a different OS on the phone. | 18:52 |
| SuicideJunkie | I do agree it is a silly system dependency tho. | 18:53 |
| filipdevuan | well sorry im newbie and not a linux master but i hate google so im being silly now ;P | 18:54 |
| SuicideJunkie | I more hate hard dependencies on the internet. | 18:55 |
| SuicideJunkie | Although, I suppose as a human I've developed something of a dependency on the internet myself and would suffer withdrawal symptoms. | 18:55 |
| filipdevuan | yeah i hate that as well | 19:10 |
| ChuangTzu | greetings all | 21:18 |
| golinux | ChuangTzu: Howdy | 21:45 |
| golinux | I've been of having some late b'fast | 21:45 |
| golinux | off really | 21:45 |
| ChuangTzu | :) just enjoying a cup of tea | 21:46 |
| golinux | I'm about to do that myself. bbiab | 21:47 |
| ChuangTzu | I posted the Bruce Perens endorsement on an LQ subthread "Is Devuan better then Debian" | 21:47 |
| ChuangTzu | https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-distributions-5/is-devuan-better-than-debian-4175600564/page3.html | 21:48 |
| msiism | so, to check if sth depends on dbus, i'd just have to run 'apt-get depends <package>'? what if dependency $b of package $a depended on dbus? | 22:03 |
| msiism | s/-get/-cache | 22:03 |
| msiism | the easiest solutions seems to be to install 'apt-rdepends' and use that. but it seems this can also be done through 'apt-cache' somehow. | 22:14 |
| golinux | ChuangTzu: Nice. | 22:18 |
| fsmithred | msiism, just pin dbus to -1 and you won't be able to install anything that depends on it. | 22:23 |
| fsmithred | (unless you're trying to remove stuff) | 22:23 |
| msiism | fsmithred: i'm trying to verfiy spacefm doesn't depend on dbus. | 22:24 |
| msiism | fsmithred: 'apt-cache rdepends dbus | grep spacefm' gives me 'spacefm' and 'spacefm-gtk3'. | 22:27 |
| ChuangTzu | I think dbus is a suggestion for spacefm not required | 22:29 |
| fsmithred | msiism, I'm sure it does not - it's installed my no-dbus system | 22:29 |
| fsmithred | might be a recommends - I have those blocked | 22:29 |
| msiism | ChuangTzu: yes, that's what 'apt-cache depends spacefm | grep dbus' says. | 22:29 |
| msiism | fsmithred: ok, so i'd really have to test with dbus pinned to -1 to make sure, i guess. | 22:30 |
| fsmithred | yeah, but don't do that if you already have dbus installed. You might lose a bunch of stuff. | 22:31 |
| msiism | fsmithred: yes, i will do it on a testing system once i have one available again. | 22:31 |
| fsmithred | cool. Let me know how it goes. | 22:32 |
| msiism | will do | 22:32 |
| filipdevuan | im thinking if i should download steam or no... im worried about what does it install on my computer... | 22:34 |
| filipdevuan | im worried that it may do something with my graphics card drivers | 22:35 |
| msiism | filipdevuan: do you have a spare machine available? | 22:36 |
| filipdevuan | anyways i think im gonna grab my laptop go somewhere nice in the nature and read about linux basics | 22:36 |
| filipdevuan | noo, i dont ;p | 22:36 |
| msiism | filipdevuan: then there is also virtualization. | 22:36 |
| filipdevuan | playing same windows games all the time is retarded | 22:37 |
| filipdevuan | well i used to install it before but i just dont trust this platform, i have diablo 3 running on my OS and i probably dont need anything like steam but i fancy playing some PvP game | 22:37 |
| filipdevuan | and is oracle the only company that makes virtual boxes | 22:38 |
| fsmithred | there's qemu | 22:40 |
| fsmithred | free | 22:40 |
| filipdevuan | qemu? | 22:40 |
| filipdevuan | oh ill have a look cheers | 22:40 |
| fsmithred | yeah, for virtualization. | 22:40 |
| fsmithred | not clicky like virtualbox, but very usable. | 22:40 |
| filipdevuan | ok cheers | 22:41 |
| aitor | hola | 23:22 |
| aitor | éste es el cuarto foro en el que me inscribo que trate de gnu/linux | 23:23 |
| aitor | anteriormente ya me expulsaron de tres | 23:23 |
| aitor | jobregón? | 23:24 |
| SuicideJunkie | Hi | 23:24 |
| SuicideJunkie | It is mostly if not all english in here. | 23:24 |
| aitor | i promised to talk with him this week | 23:25 |
| aitor | 23:30! | 23:25 |
| aitor | i only have half an hour | 23:25 |
| SuicideJunkie | I see jobregon[m] is in the channel, but maybe not at the computer | 23:25 |
| aitor | maybe in #devuan-mx | 23:27 |
| ChuangTzu | expelled from three distros? | 23:27 |
| SuicideJunkie | I read it as irc channels, where a kick isn't that big a deal | 23:28 |
| aitor | from three forums :) | 23:28 |
| ChuangTzu | ahh, that makes sense | 23:28 |
| aitor | but i try :) | 23:29 |
| SuicideJunkie | I wouldn't be surprised if some have itchy kickers for other languages. | 23:30 |
| SuicideJunkie | aitor: forums like as in places using phpBB and XenForo? | 23:31 |
| aitor | and ruby | 23:32 |
| SuicideJunkie | Oh, I figured it was just a mistranslation. | 23:33 |
| ChuangTzu | so its what I thought...question now is why would a person be kicked form three different forums | 23:34 |
| ChuangTzu | *from | 23:34 |
| aitor | i'm alone in #devuan-mx :( | 23:35 |
| aitor | another one added to the list :( | 23:35 |
| aitor | my posts are quite annoying | 23:36 |
| aitor | i never read them | 23:36 |
| SuicideJunkie | What? | 23:37 |
| SuicideJunkie | A) you can't count joining an empty channel as being kicked from a forum. | 23:38 |
| SuicideJunkie | B) How? Do you stare at the keyboard while typing and hope for the best? :D Surely you read your own posts at least once! | 23:38 |
| ChuangTzu | ill check in later. | 23:40 |
| aitor | lol, seems to be a psychological test | 23:41 |
| aitor | i'ĺl try in another time, g4570n is also missing | 23:43 |
| aitor | opps! | 23:44 |
| aitor | g4570n, see you :) | 23:44 |
| aitor | no worries | 23:44 |
| tocsa | Good afternoon I'm running Devuan ascii | 23:46 |
| tocsa | I'm trying to install remmina | 23:46 |
| tocsa | Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable distribution that some required packages have not yet been created or been moved out of Incoming. The following information may help to resolve the situation: | 23:47 |
| tocsa | The following packages have unmet dependencies: remmina : Depends: libssh-4 (>= 0.8.0~20170825.94fa1e38) but 0.7.3-2 is to be installed | 23:47 |
| tocsa | Anyone came across that? I just said `sudo apt install remmina` | 23:48 |
| Jjp137 | tocsa, for some reason apt install doesn't notice that the version of libssh-4 it needs is in ascii-backports, so try: apt-get install -t ascii-backports remmina | 23:50 |
| aitor | https://packages.debian.org/stretch-backports/gnome/remmina | 23:50 |
| tocsa | "apt-get install -t ascii-backports remmina" worked | 23:53 |
| tocsa | Thanks @Jjp137 | 23:53 |
| Jjp137 | np! | 23:53 |
| tocsa | Will this have any consequences in the future if I install it like that? | 23:53 |
| golinux | aitor . . . you know better than to suggest using Debina repos directly. | 23:54 |
| Jjp137 | uh shouldn't be, but just make sure to only install what you really, really need from backports | 23:54 |
| aitor | Debina? | 23:54 |
| tocsa | Gotcha! | 23:55 |
| tocsa | I would not mix in Debian (I made that mistake before) :D | 23:55 |
| Guest6872 | man id like to celebrate in freedom and justice, but have no /dev/cdrom | 23:55 |
| SuicideJunkie | Guest6872: USB stick will do. | 23:56 |
| Guest6872 | anyone having issues with /dev notcreating entries | 23:56 |
| KatolaZ | Guest6872: are you sure it's not in /dev/sr0? | 23:56 |
| Guest6872 | i am missing /dev/ram0 and all cdrom/dvdrom entries | 23:56 |
| Guest6872 | i have no sr0 | 23:56 |
| Guest6872 | this is ascii | 23:56 |
| Guest6872 | btw | 23:56 |
| Guest6872 | just come from slack 14 without issue but its misbehaving | 23:57 |
| Guest6872 | :/ | 23:57 |
| KatolaZ | Guest6872: this is pretty unheard of so far | 23:57 |
| KatolaZ | :\ | 23:57 |
| Guest6872 | thats not good | 23:57 |
| aitor | Debina..., the master of the meaningless gibberish! | 23:58 |
| aitor | Devuana? | 23:58 |
| Guest6872 | ive been wanting to try this for a while but held off since i p[reviously ran jessie and really wanted stretch | 23:58 |
| KatolaZ | Guest6872: how have you installed it? | 23:58 |
| Guest6872 | from what ive worked out it seems like a udev/eudev issue as its happened on gentoo previously, but i cant work out how to fix it | 23:59 |
| Guest6872 | netinstall - x86_64 | 23:59 |
| KatolaZ | Guest6872: do you have any special controller? | 23:59 |
| aitor | bye, i'm chasing an armadillo in the garden | 23:59 |
| Guest6872 | not that i know of | 23:59 |
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