alexandros_c | good day, does devuan support uefi installs? If so, what is the procedure for such an install? | 00:01 |
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gnarface | alexandros_c: i *think* the answer is yes and disable secure boot? | 00:04 |
alexandros_c | gnarface, what about the procedure? | 00:06 |
gnarface | otherwise should be the same as any other install | 00:06 |
gnarface | if you care about secure boot and your hardware supports adding your own keys you could do that instead | 00:07 |
gnarface | which installer image are you using? | 00:08 |
alexandros_c | livecd | 00:11 |
alexandros_c | with the livecd are you able yto choose the desktop environment that you want o install? | 00:12 |
gnarface | no, the livecd's installer is quite limited | 00:12 |
gnarface | it basically just copies the live install | 00:12 |
alexandros_c | ok I already have a net install iso | 00:13 |
alexandros_c | gnarface, thanks for your help | 00:18 |
gnarface | no problem alexandros_c | 00:21 |
gnarface | just fyi though you know there's nothing you can't change after install | 00:21 |
gnarface | you could always use a livecd installer then change the desktop environment later | 00:21 |
alexandros_c | I yeah I know that but I am not looking for extra work | 00:22 |
gnarface | fair enough | 00:24 |
alexandros_c | :) | 00:25 |
golinux | alexandros_c: Default desktop on the desktop-live isos is xfce. | 00:49 |
* Xenguy recommends MATE instead, due to habitual thinking ... | 00:50 | |
golinux | That's not an option on the desktop-live | 00:50 |
Xenguy | But XFCE is fine too of course, linux has always been, viva la difference | 00:50 |
Xenguy | I thought he was going to use the netinstall? | 00:51 |
golinux | It is in the expert install. | 00:51 |
Xenguy | Choose what ye will | 00:51 |
golinux | <alexandros_c> with the livecd are you able yto choose the desktop environment that you want o install? | 00:51 |
Xenguy | 18:14 < alexandros_c> ok I already have a net install iso | 00:52 |
Xenguy | ^^ touche | 00:52 |
golinux | LOL! I didn't get that far / / / | 00:53 |
Xenguy | The Devil is in the details, always >: -)> | 00:53 |
Xenguy | Speaking of the Devil... | 00:53 |
Xenguy | brb | 00:54 |
alexandros_c | so can you install the de of your choice from the livecd? | 01:35 |
djph | if "the de of your choice" is on the install media | 01:37 |
alexandros_c | djph, cinnamon? | 01:37 |
djph | might be. i run mate tho | 01:41 |
golinux | alexandros_c: No. Only from the netinstall. Livecd has limited space. | 01:43 |
alexandros_c | thanks, golinux | 03:08 |
alexandros_c | what is the default init system on devuan? | 05:49 |
alexandros_c | nvm | 05:50 |
agris | hello? | 08:42 |
agris | has anyone tried setting up wireless in /etc/network/interfaces? | 08:43 |
agris | I'm encountering numerous bugs | 08:43 |
agris | for example if i try to set the link MTU Devuan think's it's an ipv6 parameter and fails | 08:44 |
agris | also there is no way to set HT | 08:44 |
agris | I've been looking into it. It appears /etc/network/interfaces is using iwconfig, rather than iw. Wasn't iwconfig deprecated in the 90s? 1999 or something? | 08:45 |
agris | In the mean time i've had to hack in some pre-up scripts | 08:45 |
agris | can someone please let me know if something is indeed seriously wrong or i'm just doing something incorrect | 08:46 |
agris | on an unrelated note, is it possible to use a newer kernel? Perhaps one that supports the latest batman-adv networking protocols? | 08:47 |
agris | is Devuan's wireless configuration just completely busted? | 08:50 |
KatolaZ | agris: you can use a backport kernel, if you like | 09:02 |
agris | how would i go about doing that? | 09:02 |
agris | i also see undocumented options in iw | 09:06 |
agris | iw set type p2p-go | 09:06 |
KatolaZ | agris: you should add ascii-backports to sources.list | 09:07 |
KatolaZ | (I suppose you are on ascii) | 09:07 |
agris | indeed | 09:07 |
KatolaZ | the just add ascii-backports | 09:08 |
KatolaZ | apt-get update | 09:08 |
KatolaZ | and then install a newer kernel | 09:08 |
agris | I've never done that in Devuan before | 09:09 |
agris | what is the package-name? | 09:09 |
KatolaZ | uh? | 09:09 |
KatolaZ | ascii-backports is a suite | 09:09 |
KatolaZ | a repository | 09:09 |
KatolaZ | not a package | 09:09 |
KatolaZ | (/etc/apt/sources.list contains the list of repositories) | 09:10 |
kyle__ | Do backports in devuan work the same as in deb? | 19:25 |
gnarface | yes | 19:26 |
kyle__ | Groovy. Thanks | 19:26 |
lead_dipper | having trouble getting steam running...I need three different 32bit libs... anyone know a quick and dirty way to install them? | 21:15 |
pav5088 | lead_dipper, dunno... Doesn't dpkg --add-architecture i386 work? | 21:17 |
lead_dipper | not if the package is already installed I guess :\ | 21:19 |
lead_dipper | oof, using ubuntu has ruined me | 21:19 |
lead_dipper | I've forgotten a lot I shouldn't have | 21:19 |
gnarface | lead_dipper: if you ran `dpkg --add-architecture i386` first, then you can install the 32-bit version of any package by appending ":i386" to the name | 21:26 |
gnarface | lead_dipper: (well, you also have to make sure to run `apt-get update` but THEN it will work) | 21:27 |
lead_dipper | ah ok I thought that hadn't worked - but now I see I did it out of order | 21:27 |
lead_dipper | ty! | 21:27 |
gnarface | np. | 21:27 |
gnarface | if you're using nvidia, steam needs libgl1-nvidia-glx:i386 | 21:28 |
gnarface | if you tried to install that without enabling multi-arch first, it may have removed the 64-bit one, which might actually drive you insane if you didn't notice doing it | 21:29 |
gnarface | (because at that point, steam would work along with about half the games, but all the other opengl stuff on your system would probably break) | 21:29 |
gnarface | similar steps need to be taken for Intel/AMD/MESA gpus but i forget the exact package names involved, sorry | 21:30 |
lead_dipper | hm, no install candidate for that nvidia package | 21:37 |
lead_dipper | does it come with the proprietary driver? I could just install it again | 21:38 |
gnarface | no, don't reinstall | 21:39 |
gnarface | the proprietary driver is just in non-free | 21:39 |
gnarface | i assumed you would have enabled it already if you were using nvidia drivers | 21:39 |
gnarface | by default it actually loads the open source driver for nvidia cards | 21:39 |
gnarface | do you know the proper way to add contrib and non-free sections of the repo to your /etc/apt/sources.list? | 21:41 |
gnarface | those would probably be on by default for ubuntu too, but for this it would have depended on your installation choices | 21:41 |
lead_dipper | ah, just append contrib and non-free after 'main'? | 21:43 |
gnarface | lead_dipper: yea, just like that | 21:48 |
gnarface | lead_dipper: (then `apt-get update` again) | 21:48 |
lead_dipper | good good, new error! making progress! :D | 21:50 |
lead_dipper | looks like I'll need to probably reinstall proprietary nvidia since I probably did not build 32bit compat libs last time I ran the installer | 21:51 |
gnarface | always make sure you install nvidia proprietary drivers from the repo; the shell script from nvidia.com breaks things | 21:52 |
lead_dipper | ah | 21:53 |
lead_dipper | Wow I think that's it, that worked. Steam's running. Time to make a new personal Refracta snapshot. | 22:23 |
gnarface | cool | 22:28 |
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