| filipdevuan_ | hey is there anybody who knows how to configure nvidia optimus here on devuan?? | 12:18 |
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| TwistedFate | is there anybody who can help filipdevuan_ to set his nvidia optimus? | 12:29 |
| filipdevuan_ | oh dont worry :P i can live without it :D. maybe you know if theres any chance to take geforce out from my laptop?? | 12:30 |
| filipdevuan_ | id be glad to sell it for some ram memory :D | 12:31 |
| djph | filipdevuan_: they're soldered in | 12:32 |
| TwistedFate | heh, dunno about that, i don't really know much about laptops | 12:32 |
| TwistedFate | where ya from filipdevuan_? | 12:32 |
| filipdevuan_ | do you ask me where i live or where i was born?? :P | 12:33 |
| TwistedFate | hah, dunno.. both i guess? :D | 12:33 |
| filipdevuan_ | uhh im in england for some time now but was born in poland | 12:35 |
| TwistedFate | ah, i asked because your name, it's also used in serbia :) | 12:36 |
| filipdevuan_ | oh i get it now :P no worries :D | 12:36 |
| filipdevuan_ | oh gnarface i got it running like out of the box!!! thanks!!!! i typed optirun bash and nothing has happened oh how nice im gonna type down these packages to my notepad for future, thanks again lol. and i couldnt make it for hours yesterday ;d | 13:00 |
| TwistedFate | filipdevuan_: glad you got it working :) | 13:05 |
| filipdevuan_ | yeah im surprised as well cuz it took like 5 minutes yesterday i struggled for hours | 13:08 |
| gnarface | it's usually like that | 13:11 |
| filipdevuan_ | yeah thanks again. because i basically wanted to install devuan and get all my favourite windows game running on it but i couldnt start without configuring bumblebee properly and ihad problems with it but now its ok and i know what packages are needed so thanks :-) | 13:25 |
| gnarface | you're welcome | 13:28 |
| wyatt8740 | Quick question. Does devuan have an option for using systemd but with a different init system? If so, is it maintaining systemd-shim? (it seems to be out of date in Debian Sid proper) | 14:49 |
| wyatt8740 | and is devuan still using vdev? (it looks like it's no longer being maintained on github) | 14:52 |
| wyatt8740 | never mind that second question, found this https://git.devuan.org/devuan-packages/vdev | 14:53 |
| wyatt8740 | first one still stands | 14:53 |
| KatolaZ | wyatt8740: systemd cannot be installed in devuan if you use only devuan repos | 15:00 |
| KatolaZ | wyatt8740: if you need systemd, you should probably use debian | 15:04 |
| djph | ^ | 15:04 |
| wyatt8740 | I just don't want it as my init system because it inevitably screws things up | 15:07 |
| wyatt8740 | (at least on three of my four systems) | 15:07 |
| wyatt8740 | and systemd-shim is no longer being maintained apparently in debian proper | 15:07 |
| wyatt8740 | also, I have one POWER architecture machine that can't run devuan so I definitely will keep trying to get debian working on that one | 15:08 |
| KatolaZ | wyatt8740: you are probably better off using debian | 15:11 |
| wyatt8740 | ok, thanks. | 15:12 |
| KatolaZ | wyatt8740: we are struggling to keep alternatives to systemd alive | 15:12 |
| KatolaZ | we don't have time/will to add support for systemd | 15:12 |
| KatolaZ | especially since it gets to much attention already in Debian | 15:12 |
| KatolaZ | s/to /so | 15:12 |
| wyatt8740 | I understand. Devuan's "big point" is absolutely no systemd | 15:13 |
| MinceR | if only that implied no libsystemd as well | 15:14 |
| KatolaZ | wyatt8740: systemd is the reason why Devuan exists | 15:14 |
| KatolaZ | MinceR: we are working on that | 15:14 |
| KatolaZ | (wishing is cheap :P) | 15:15 |
| MinceR | :) | 15:15 |
| fsmithred | wyatt8740, mxlinux uses sysvinit but has systemd installed | 15:17 |
| Digit | returning to my nvidia issue. tried the installer got from nvidia's site. after managing to get stuff uninstalled to keep it happy, it now still complains it does not like the 4.17.0-3-amd64. leaves me head-scratching, unsure what next. maybe from repos again? what's best practice for nvidia in devuan? (i got told/guided last time but forgot) | 15:29 |
| fsmithred | Digit, is it complaining about the kernel itself or about the headers or gcc? | 15:32 |
| Digit | looking in the log it points to, i see a dkms log it then points to, in that one it mentioned headers. | 15:42 |
| fsmithred | are the headers for the running kernel installed? apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) | 16:00 |
| Digit | says that's already the newest. reading back in that log, i couldnt see anything that suggested the kernel/headers were mismatched, but did say major/minor versions mismatch ... so, i'm guessing force reinstalls n reboot to new kernel or something like that? | 16:19 |
| Digit | oops, edit fail | 16:19 |
| Digit | versions of gcc | 16:19 |
| Digit | 7.3.0 (Debian 7.3.0-28) does not match (Debian 8.2.0-7) 8.2.0 | 16:22 |
| * Digit cheating with --no-cc-version-check when running the nvidia installer | 16:56 | |
| Digit | kludged my way to startx launching to unuseable blackness. :3 making progress. :) | 17:00 |
| GyrosGeier | Digit, that's why I normally use "sleep 5" as session manager when testing | 17:04 |
| Digit | ah, running slim, n all's well. back in. of course. | 17:07 |
| Digit | thanks fsmithred for the pointers to get me unstuck again. thnx everyone for putting up with my blah blah | 17:08 |
| fsmithred | Digit, the usual way is to start the command with 'env CC=/path/to/version-used-to-compile-your-kernel' | 17:13 |
| fsmithred | which is usually not the default version in debian. | 17:13 |
| fsmithred | only time I've seen them match is when running testing | 17:13 |
| GyrosGeier | isn't there a dkms package that takes care of that? | 17:17 |
| fsmithred | don't know. It's been a couple years since I've done that. | 17:18 |
| ServiceRobot | hello denizens of the virtual space! | 17:46 |
| golinux | Hi ServiceRobot | 18:04 |
| filipdevuan_ | hey im trying to run battle.net app under wine but i get failed to create graphics context and this is output from terminal https://paste.debian.net/1047828/ can anybody help me please :( | 22:21 |
| filipdevuan_ | ok it seems like it runs under older version of wine-staging how to downgrade?? | 22:24 |
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