saravia | hello, i'm download the devuan iso for first time, i will install on my laptop ×D!! | 00:20 |
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saravia | someone else there? | 00:20 |
fsmithred | nobody ever answers that question | 00:22 |
saravia | ups sorry | 00:25 |
saravia | devuan is 100% free/libre? | 00:26 |
fsmithred | depends on how you install it | 00:27 |
fsmithred | you can have it with or without contrib and non-free | 00:27 |
fsmithred | you got an installer iso or a live iso? | 00:28 |
saravia | dvd iso | 00:28 |
saravia | of 4gb | 00:28 |
fsmithred | ok, choose expert install and select a mirror when asked | 00:28 |
fsmithred | and you will be asked about contrib and non-free | 00:29 |
saravia | please past me this mirror | 00:30 |
fsmithred | sorry, what? | 00:30 |
fsmithred | choose deb.devuan.org for a mirror | 00:31 |
fsmithred | it will select one near you | 00:31 |
fsmithred | (near is relative - there aren't a lot of mirrors) | 00:31 |
* man_in_shack reflects fsmithred | 00:35 | |
fsmithred | lol, thanks | 00:35 |
saravia | ×D, donwloading now | 00:36 |
ErRandir | My devuan ASCII install put pkgmaster.devuan.org into the sources.list, but the web page of dev1fanboy has deb.devuan.org. Which one is best? | 11:44 |
gnarface | ErRandir: use deb.devuan.org (it is the mirror round-robin) | 11:54 |
gnarface | it might be faster | 11:56 |
ErRandir | thanks! | 12:02 |
gnarface | no problem | 12:10 |
* man_in_shack problems gnarface in the no | 12:26 | |
SegFault01 | hi | 13:01 |
SegFault01 | I am a Slackware user. I want to use Devuan. | 13:01 |
SegFault01 | Any suggestions for smooth transition? | 13:02 |
Digit | my suggestions would be wrong. dont listen to me if i try suggest "bedrock". ;) | 13:03 |
SegFault01 | Don't want to package management. I want automatic dependancy resolutions. | 13:03 |
Digit | someone more slackware & devuan savvy will have better suggestions momentarily, probably. | 13:03 |
Digit | SegFault01: if should be quite a smooth transition already then. | 13:04 |
SegFault01 | And no more compiling packages | 13:04 |
gnarface | SegFault01: did you try out the devuan live image? | 13:04 |
Digit | apt-get update && apt-get upgrade && echo easy joy | 13:05 |
SegFault01 | I want binary packages | 13:05 |
Digit | s/if/it/ | 13:05 |
SegFault01 | compiling is time consuming | 13:05 |
SegFault01 | But binary packages should be available. How big is Devuan repo? | 13:06 |
SegFault01 | I haven't tried Devuan live image | 13:07 |
Digit | as big as debians. basically pretty much the biggest, near enough. wide package availability. rare that you need step outwith the repo to compile something. | 13:09 |
SegFault01 | You seem to suggest Debian also has a huge repo. Then I guess I won't have to compile tarballs anymore. | 13:11 |
SegFault01 | Ok. What is the init system? | 13:12 |
Digit | yup. | 13:12 |
SegFault01 | Like you guys, I hate systemd. | 13:12 |
SegFault01 | Is it sysvinit? | 13:12 |
Digit | sysvinit, i think. i barely ever pay attention to it. not systemd. yay. | 13:12 |
SegFault01 | Ok. That is cool. I use the KDE 3 Trinity desktop. They say it is available with Devuan. | 13:13 |
SegFault01 | Is Trinity available in live image? | 13:14 |
Digit | and then there's always the likes of runit. ;D http://smarden.org/runit/replaceinit.html (see, i warned you about my suggestions, hehe.) | 13:14 |
Digit | i... think trinity is available. if you have a connection and install it. i'm not sure. that might be a 3rd party repo to add. good taste, my old fave, but have not used for a while. | 13:15 |
SegFault01 | Ok, is the following packages availble (cannot live without them): gcc, clang, gdb, valgrind, perl, vim, latex | 13:15 |
SegFault01 | and also ruby | 13:17 |
Digit | i tried install those, n it complains it cant find latex package, but that's prly just because i need to specify a specific meta-package for it. | 13:17 |
Digit | but yeah, all that basics will be available i'm sure. | 13:17 |
SegFault01 | Gotta go. Work. Thank you for your help. | 13:17 |
Digit | eep. i'm helping. devuan, look out. n_n | 13:18 |
targz | Very happy using an iso of Devuan ASCII http://gnutransfer.com/vps.php. It is good to have that option in a server :) | 16:53 |
xrogaan | Got a ton of updates today, one being grub. And it scared me telling me that grub wasn't directed to be installed anywhere. | 17:05 |
xrogaan | how do I check if grub is properly installed and configured? | 17:06 |
gnu_srs | dpkg -l grub | 17:51 |
xrogaan | I didn't mean the packages, but the state of grub on my drive. | 17:53 |
gnu_srs1 | xrogaan: Check the date+contents of /boot/grub/grub.cfg? | 18:14 |
gnu_srs1 | That file is created when grub is installed/updated | 18:14 |
fsmithred | xrogaan, was grub already installed and working? | 18:16 |
fsmithred | the debconf dialog for grub when the package gets installed will warn you if you don't select a location for the bootloader | 18:17 |
fsmithred | if you get that on an upgrade, I wouldn't expect it to matter, because you already have a bootloader | 18:17 |
fsmithred | either in mbr or in efi partition | 18:18 |
xrogaan | fsmithred: yeah, it's for my main desktop. The message at upgrade is a bit scary. | 18:41 |
gnu_srs | apt-get install --reinstall grub? | 18:43 |
fsmithred | or even grub-install... | 18:44 |
fsmithred | bios or uefi? | 18:45 |
telmich | good evening | 18:46 |
telmich | In which state is ceres at the moment? I.e. if I feel adventerous, should I already give my notebook a try to dist-upgrade? | 18:46 |
fsmithred | telmich, are you running ascii or beowulf on the laptop? | 18:47 |
telmich | fsmithred: ascii atm | 18:48 |
xrogaan | Well, it updated grub fine, then later on told me "you didn't designate a place to install grub". I quit the screen and it updated grub yet again. | 18:48 |
fsmithred | here are some accounts of upgrading to ceres: https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=2301 | 18:49 |
fsmithred | xrogaan, did it show you a list of drives/partitions and ask where to put grub? | 18:51 |
xrogaan | yeah | 18:51 |
fsmithred | then I know you're doing bios boot and not uefi | 18:52 |
fsmithred | I usually select my boot drive when I get that window on an update | 18:52 |
fsmithred | just in case they changed the boot code | 18:52 |
kekePower | hmm | 21:21 |
kekePower | powertop tells me I'm down to about 10w battery discharge now | 21:21 |
dormito | I notice that the devuan webpage says ASCII supports installing with openrc, however I didn't notice it as an option when I did an ASCII install a couple days ago. When/how do you select the init/rc for the install? | 22:50 |
golinux | dormito: I think you can only chose openrc during an expert install. But you can also switch after installation. Check the forum and DNG archives for instructions. | 23:01 |
Jjp137 | dormito, choose the expert install, and during the "load installer components from CD" step, select the "choose-init" component, then later on you'll be asked to select the init | 23:02 |
dormito | ok thanks :0 | 23:02 |
dormito | * :) | 23:02 |
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