bjb_ | My calendar says it is Devuan's birthday today ... is it so? | 00:39 |
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golinux | Yes | 00:40 |
golinux | https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/20181127.225721.357d93f9.en.html | 00:40 |
bjb_ | Happy birthday Devuan : -) | 00:41 |
booyah | o. | 01:19 |
booyah | o/ | 01:19 |
mooseface420 | UI gets real laggy in 4k. maybe 15 fps. using KDE Plasma | 01:38 |
mooseface420 | it's better in 2k. but pretty annoyed | 01:38 |
Centurion_Dan | mooseface420: have you got gpu acceleration working and composite turned on?? | 03:43 |
Xenguy | Happy Birthday Devuan | 03:46 |
Xenguy | Sagitarius, makes sense : -) | 03:47 |
Xenguy | A blast from the past: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siUHszm5xnE | 03:52 |
Xenguy | Speaking of | 03:53 |
Xenguy | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IH18SmqpSME | 04:02 |
mooseface420 | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0v6yVow4tU | 04:08 |
Xenguy | To infinity and beyound! | 04:10 |
Xenguy | There was absolutely no LSD involved with that production! | 04:13 |
Xenguy | Not a drop | 04:13 |
Xenguy | Sorry OT | 04:14 |
mooseface420 | lol | 04:23 |
Xenguy | I liked the song, very original too | 04:24 |
xrogaan | KatolaZ: one mirror is kaput http://dpaste.com/0ZHW4TA | 06:10 |
* man_in_shack flails | 07:39 | |
* man_in_shack sets fire to Xenguy | 07:39 | |
jyri | no one else was hit by this: grub-install: error: cannot copy `/usr/share/locale/bg.gmo' to `/boot/grub/locale/bg.mo': Is a directory. ? | 11:36 |
KatolaZ | xrogaan: timestamp> | 11:38 |
r3boot | jyri: nope. But just to check, is /boot/grub/locale/bg.mo a directory by any chance? | 11:39 |
xrogaan | KatolaZ: about when I posted | 11:39 |
xrogaan | KatolaZ: no idea how to know *which* mirror is faulty | 11:39 |
KatolaZ | ok | 11:39 |
KatolaZ | checking now | 11:39 |
KatolaZ | I saw it | 11:39 |
KatolaZ | thanks | 11:40 |
KatolaZ | I am also amending one of the automatic checks | 11:41 |
jyri | +xrogaan: yes it is, it contains /LC_MESSAGES/ConsoleKit2@INSTOBJEXT@ | 11:50 |
jyri | I don't know what broke last week that that started happening (I build and install the latest stable kernel every time it comes out) | 11:51 |
xrogaan | what? | 12:00 |
jyri | I do grub-install /dev/sdc to get the new kernel set up for the next time I boot the machine, that stopped working with the above mentioned error message | 12:04 |
xrogaan | I have no idea. | 12:20 |
xrogaan | jyri: check /etc/grub.d | 12:20 |
xrogaan | and /etc/default/grub | 12:21 |
jyri | yeah, did, there's no mention at all | 12:23 |
xrogaan | I don't really understand grub, so I can't help. | 12:28 |
xrogaan | jyri: /usr/share/locale/bg.gmo shouldn't exists | 12:37 |
xrogaan | try apt-file search /usr/share/locale/bg.gmo | 12:37 |
xrogaan | well, it's not in any package, so you've been naughty with your computer. | 12:38 |
jyri | $ ls -la /usr/share/locale/bg.gmo | 12:38 |
jyri | total 12 | 12:38 |
jyri | drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 24 Nov 22 10:04 . | 12:38 |
jyri | drwxr-xr-x 243 root root 8192 Nov 22 10:04 .. | 12:38 |
jyri | drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 36 Nov 22 10:04 LC_MESSAGES | 12:38 |
xrogaan | It shouldn't exists. | 12:39 |
xrogaan | did you compile and `sudo make install' anything? | 12:39 |
xrogaan | from where does that folder comes from? | 12:39 |
jyri | hmm, I wonder, ok, I'll just remove it to some other directory | 12:39 |
xrogaan | are you running anything as root? | 12:40 |
jyri | X, nothing else | 12:42 |
xrogaan | Did you *purposely* ran any software as root? | 12:42 |
xrogaan | that is, not a system daemon. | 12:43 |
jyri | well, I run the grub-install as root | 12:43 |
jyri | if I remove that file then grub-install hits grub-install: error: cannot copy `/usr/share/locale/es.gmo' to `/boot/grub/locale/es.mo': Is a directory. | 12:45 |
jyri | so it is scanning the whole /usr/share/locale/ and that is naturally full of directories | 12:46 |
xrogaan | yes, the .gmo folders are not native to debian | 12:48 |
ejr | why does "sudo update-rc.d wicd -f remove" not disable wicd from running at startup? i just tried, and it still starts even though i want to use network-manager only | 12:50 |
xrogaan | you might want to check the package of all files in the /usr/share/locale | 12:51 |
xrogaan | compile a list, remove the whole folder and reinstall all the packages your listed. | 12:51 |
xrogaan | But that's crazy. | 12:51 |
jyri | I removed the *.gmo directories from there and grub-install worked just fine | 12:52 |
jyri | drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 24 Nov 22 10:04 bg.gmo | 12:52 |
jyri | drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 24 Nov 22 10:04 es_419.gmo | 12:52 |
jyri | drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 24 Nov 22 10:04 es.gmo | 12:52 |
jyri | drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 24 Nov 22 10:04 ru.gmo | 12:52 |
xrogaan | yeah | 12:52 |
xrogaan | the question, though, is what the hell put those folder there. | 12:52 |
jyri | I know for sure that I didn't install anything manually in the last month expect the kernels | 12:53 |
xrogaan | it dates back to 6 days ago. Check your auth log. | 12:53 |
jyri | yeah, this looks bad, thanks | 12:55 |
jyri | the files themselves are harmless and seem to be that redhat has that format ie. /usr/share/locale/es.gmo/LC_MESSAGES/system-config-printer.mo | 13:25 |
furrymcgee | Any idea why d-i Package.gz is missing in my CD? WARNING **: bad d-i Packages file http://paste.debian.net/1053550 http://paste.debian.net/1053547 | 13:45 |
xrogaan | jyri: it's not those files, but whatever created them | 13:56 |
jyri | yes, nothing in the auth logs, I am running ceres though, might be some package that did something that it shouldn't when it got updated | 13:58 |
segfault | please help. | 15:26 |
segfault | I installed ASCII from live gui medium that ran the XFCE desktop | 15:27 |
jyri | and? | 15:27 |
segfault | I don't like XFCE, so I installed GNOME 2 Mate desktop | 15:27 |
segfault | and removed XFCE | 15:27 |
segfault | Now a lot of important shit like wcid, slim etc are gone | 15:28 |
segfault | font's are not rendering | 15:28 |
r3boot | segfault: did you try to reinstall those packages? | 15:28 |
segfault | That's the problem, I don't know what packages are important | 15:29 |
r3boot | you just named a few ;) | 15:29 |
segfault | I only know a few of them. | 15:29 |
jyri | how did you remove the XFCE? | 15:29 |
segfault | sudo apt remove xfce && sudo apt autoremove | 15:30 |
r3boot | just to be complete: I dont run devuan (but have 15+ yrs of unix experience), so I dont know the specifics. This does feel a bit like you removed a meta package | 15:30 |
r3boot | (a package that depends on a lot of others, giving you a desktop with a single command for instance) | 15:30 |
segfault | r3boot, what distro do you run? | 15:31 |
jyri | autoremove gives a list of packages that it removes | 15:31 |
segfault | jyri, autoremove also gives the list of packages that contain xfce desktop packages also. | 15:31 |
r3boot | segfault: arch, debian (both with and without systemd), openbsd, freebsd, juniper, openvms, windows (and a bunch of ancient unixes on museum hardware) | 15:31 |
segfault | I don't want to install them | 15:32 |
gnu_srs2 | segfault: apt-get install task-mate-desktop | 15:32 |
segfault | gnu_srs2, that meta package seems to pull in the packages that I removed. Thank you. | 15:33 |
segfault | gnu_srs2, BTW, what is task-* package? | 15:34 |
segfault | when I removed xfce4, there was a task-xfce that got removed too. | 15:34 |
r3boot | the task-* packages sounds like the meta packages I was talking about | 15:36 |
r3boot | Ah, yes, indeed: https://pkginfo.devuan.org/stage/ascii/ascii/task-mate-desktop_3.39+devuan1.9.html | 15:37 |
segfault | r3boot, yes seems like devuan repo has a lot of task-* meta packages | 15:38 |
r3boot | yep | 15:38 |
r3boot | try to install the package gnu_srs2 was talking about | 15:39 |
r3boot | that should fix up most things | 15:39 |
r3boot | (except for maybe wicd, which will likely be replaced with networkmanager?) | 15:39 |
segfault | installing the meta package worked. | 15:39 |
segfault | I installed wicd manually | 15:40 |
segfault | Everything good now. Thanks everyone. | 15:40 |
segfault | r3boot, BTW why you run arch or debian? how do you even get rid of systemd on them? | 15:41 |
r3boot | getting rid of systemd is not a priority for me, but this is not the channel to discuss this ;) | 15:41 |
segfault | I thought devuan was a proponent of the freedom of init scripts. | 15:42 |
r3boot | like I said, lets not discuss this :) | 15:42 |
r3boot | (there are a *lot* of layers involved, and lots & lots of nuances) | 15:42 |
segfault | OK, but do you know if I can use runit instead of devuan's sysvinit? | 15:43 |
r3boot | I think you can yeah | 15:43 |
r3boot | it shoulnt be that hard to manually replace it as well (if devuan doesnt have an option for it) | 15:43 |
fsmithred | calibrate | 15:59 |
errandir1 | Before devuan existed I effectively disabled systemd by installing sysv init into /sbin | 16:20 |
premoboss | hi | 17:08 |
KatolaZ | hi premoboss | 18:20 |
premoboss | i have a PC with 3 NIC. NIC_0 goes to my home router and from there, to internet. NIC_1 goes to subnet_1, NIC_2 goes to subnet_2. the pc play as a gateway/router in "trasparent" way. Now i want to block access for subnet_2 to a particular website (www.example.com) but allow to subnet_1. There is a way to do wit a iptables's rule? i tried "iptables -A FORWARD -d <web_site_ip_address> -j DROP, but this bloc both subnet 1 nad 2 and more, it works on ip | 18:28 |
premoboss | address but i will like it works on name of website to bloc in case of multiple ip address ther report to the same website name. | 18:28 |
KatolaZ | premoboss: you can specify that you want that rule to apply to packets you received from a specific interface | 18:30 |
KatolaZ | with "-i" | 18:31 |
KatolaZ | name | 18:35 |
KatolaZ | ops, wrong window | 18:35 |
premoboss | KatolaZ, i wait to block access to "www.example.com" to subnet_2 but allow to subnet_1. | 18:37 |
KatolaZ | premoboss: please read what I wrote | 18:38 |
KatolaZ | you know which interface is connected to subnet_2 | 18:38 |
KatolaZ | so in your rule you can specify that the DROP applies only to packages the router has received from that interface | 18:38 |
KatolaZ | using the flag "-i" | 18:38 |
premoboss | eth0 goes to router, eth1 to subnet_1, eth2 to subnet_2 | 18:38 |
premoboss | KatolaZ, my problem is that i dont knwo how to play wil iptables. | 18:39 |
KatolaZ | premoboss: then you shouldn't put your hands on a router :P | 18:39 |
premoboss | i just find in internete the rule that allow to do a trasparent connetcion "all see all" and no more. | 18:40 |
premoboss | is not a router, is a exambple PC i set ul and place after the "real" router. | 18:40 |
KatolaZ | premoboss: anything that drives traffic through different IP networks is a router | 18:40 |
premoboss | if i do mess, i just take tht pc away :-) | 18:40 |
KatolaZ | by definition | 18:41 |
KatolaZ | there are no "real" vs "fake" routers | 18:41 |
premoboss | ok, by definition. | 18:41 |
premoboss | lets call it "another" router after the "official" one. | 18:41 |
KatolaZ | o_O | 18:42 |
KatolaZ | official or unofficial is not an adjective for a router | 18:42 |
KatolaZ | :D | 18:42 |
premoboss | "o_O" stay for? | 18:42 |
KatolaZ | https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=o_O | 18:43 |
KatolaZ | :P | 18:43 |
premoboss | ok | 18:44 |
jyri | premoboss: iptables -A INPUT -d <ip address to block> -i <name of NIC_2> -j DROP | 18:44 |
premoboss | jyri, thanks. | 18:44 |
KatolaZ | no jyri | 18:44 |
KatolaZ | INPUT is for packages directed TO the machine | 18:44 |
premoboss | can iptables works also with address like www.google.com or it works only with ip address? | 18:44 |
KatolaZ | not for packages that should be forwarded... | 18:45 |
jyri | ah yes, sorry | 18:45 |
KatolaZ | premoboss: it looks like you need an http proxy | 18:45 |
premoboss | KatolaZ, can you suggest me one? | 18:45 |
jyri | iptables -A FORWARD -d <ip address to block> -i <name of NIC_2> -j DROP | 18:45 |
premoboss | jyri, ok | 18:46 |
jyri | but, please read an short tutorial about iptables | 18:46 |
KatolaZ | or maybe a long one | 18:46 |
KatolaZ | :) | 18:47 |
premoboss | ahaha ok :-) | 18:47 |
KatolaZ | actually, it would be probably better to put that rule in the PREROUTING chain inside the "nat" table | 18:48 |
ttkv | does anyone know how long "LTS" devuan releases are supported? | 19:06 |
djph | however long Jessie has been supported thusfar ... ;) | 19:15 |
ttkv | so it's tied to the Debian support cycle? good to know :-) thank you | 19:18 |
ttkv | looking that up, debian LTS is five years | 19:19 |
djph | uh | 19:24 |
djph | no | 19:24 |
djph | *DEVUAN JESSIE* | 19:24 |
ttkv | ah | 19:26 |
jbg_ | where is the meeting this evening? | 21:13 |
eyalroz | I'm having a somewhat embarrasing problem: | 21:55 |
eyalroz | For various reasons, I need to use Google Meet and/or Google Hangouts to make a presentation, for which I want to share my screen, or a specific Window. | 21:55 |
eyalroz | However - this fails, both with Firefox and with Chromium. Firefox just crashes, while with Chromium, I can have the video conference, but I'm told "Your browser can't share your screen." | 21:55 |
eyalroz | I realize this not Devuan's problem, and I dislike Google as much as the next guy. | 21:56 |
eyalroz | However, I need to figure out where the problem is: The browser, the distro, Google's Meet or Hangouts code? | 21:57 |
eyalroz | Ideas? | 22:17 |
obeardly | eyalroz: Firefox-esr crashing due to Google Hangouts is a known problem. | 22:19 |
obeardly | I have use to Hangouts for work. | 22:19 |
obeardly | I had to install Google Chrome to make it happen. | 22:19 |
eyalroz | obeardly: And you experienced similar problems to mine? | 22:44 |
eyalroz | in Chromium, I mean? | 22:44 |
obeardly | I could not get Hangouts working in Chromium. | 22:45 |
obeardly | I had the exact same problem. | 22:45 |
obeardly | So I installed Google Chrome and now I can use Hangouts without issue. | 22:45 |
nemo | obeardly: yeah. google kinda screwed mozilla over on hangouts | 22:49 |
nemo | obeardly: they coordinate for years on eliminating plugins (since hangouts used to use flash in non-chrome browsers, pnacl in chrome) | 22:49 |
nemo | obeardly: flash gets deprecated, mozilla looks at google... "eh, we'll get right on that..." | 22:52 |
nemo | took a good... year... for first beta of that fix to even appear. after the deprecation | 22:52 |
nemo | hm. seems fine in my firefox here though. admittedly I'm using nightly | 22:56 |
nemo | workplace kinda ditched google hangouts after that so hadn't tried it in a while | 22:56 |
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