gnarface | shnaps: were you installing via wireless? | 00:04 |
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shnaps | gnarface, I have broadcom. So no | 00:05 |
shnaps | Wired connection | 00:05 |
gnarface | hmmm. strange | 00:07 |
gnarface | yea, i got nothing on that one. i'm not sure anyone else has seen it do that either. | 00:07 |
shnaps | It is fine. But what are the packages inside "install packages" option? What file configure it? | 00:09 |
shnaps | ? | 00:09 |
gnarface | i'm not sure what you're asking. it just installs the base system and the packages pointed to by the meta-packages you selected in tasksel. i'm not sure what actual files in the installer control that. | 00:11 |
fsmithred | depends on what you select at the tasksel window | 00:11 |
fsmithred | shnaps, did you install task-xfce-desktop? | 00:12 |
shnaps | gnarface, I mean what are the meta packages there? | 00:13 |
shnaps | fsmithred, nope. Should I? | 00:13 |
fsmithred | if you want the full desktop in one command, yes | 00:13 |
gnarface | shnaps: they show up in the repo too. afaik they all start with "task-" | 00:14 |
fsmithred | if you want to put it together piece by piece, then no. | 00:14 |
gnarface | shnaps: you can even install tasksel | 00:14 |
fsmithred | good idea | 00:14 |
shnaps | Let me try | 00:15 |
fsmithred | apt-get install tasksel | 00:15 |
shnaps | Already been installed. Guess like dependency | 00:15 |
fsmithred | try running it | 00:16 |
shnaps | Works. Where does it log? | 00:16 |
gnarface | most likely somewhere in /var/log | 00:17 |
gnarface | check in /var/log/apt if there's nothing more obvious | 00:17 |
shnaps | Oh, I think I have logs from my last devuan netinstall | 00:18 |
shnaps | Found my error "Menu item 'pkgsel' succeeded but requeste | 00:21 |
shnaps | d to be left unconfigured. | 00:21 |
shnaps | " | 00:21 |
shnaps | Lolwat | 00:22 |
shnaps | Menu item 'pkgsel' succeeded but requested to be left unconfigured." | 00:22 |
shnaps | INFO: Falling back to the package description for brltty-udeb. Menu item 'finish-install' selected | 00:23 |
shnaps | And couple more strings. I guess I got them right after I tried to run configuring mirrors and installing packages | 00:24 |
gnarface | weird | 00:29 |
gnarface | i wonder why | 00:29 |
gnarface | it certainly sounds like something that could be caused by spurious keypresses | 00:29 |
shnaps | I checked all other options couple times. No phantom keypresses, nothing weird while typing, no double letter in terminal, etc | 00:30 |
telmich | hello | 20:48 |
telmich | I think somebody mentioned to have docker running on Devuan and I was wondering if anyone knows anything about it? | 20:48 |
debdog | someone mentioned https://github.com/vente-privee/docker-devuan a while ago | 20:52 |
_stephen_ | Sure do. | 21:25 |
_stephen_ | telmich: I'm using docker under devuan. | 21:25 |
_stephen_ | To get it working, I had to grab the binary files from the docker web site, install cgroupfs-mount, create a docker group, add my user to that group, and put the binaries in the path so that dockerd could find them. On one system I used update-alternatives to put the binaries in the path, on another I just made a shell script that sets environment variables for it. | 21:28 |
_stephen_ | There was an obscure problem with some versions, but it looks like I'm using 18.0.1-ce build e68fc7a on my present system. | 21:29 |
_stephen_ | So I know that one works. | 21:29 |
_stephen_ | I have join/part turned off and I don't know if that person is still even here, but I figure this way I can find these details later when my systems are long gone and I need them again. | 21:32 |
debdog | _stephen_: try tel<tab> | 21:33 |
debdog | (yes, still around) | 21:34 |
telmich | _stephen_, debdog: thanks a lot for the pointer, will give it a try tomorrow morning! | 21:34 |
_stephen_ | telmich: oh yeah... tab... | 21:36 |
_stephen_ | telmich: I was trying to find the error I was encountering, but failed. You may run into some really obscure error about paths in sys or proc, and upon googling them you'll find they're a problem that popped up in short window of somewhat recent versions of docker, if you encounter it, you can just try a different version of the binary, if you go that route. | 21:43 |
_stephen_ | It was a somewhat discouraging issue to encounter, too, because it kind of looked like it needed systemd and it absolutely didnt... | 21:46 |
telmich | _stephen_: that sounds scary - but I'll check | 22:48 |
shnaps | Hi there! Can I get some help? What can be reason of such situation: I can't startx without sudo after I created .xinitrc in my home directory and just trying to do this "exec volumeicon&"? | 23:29 |
gnarface | shnaps: your ~/.xinitrc needs to start a window manager as it's final action | 23:30 |
gnarface | shnaps: (sudo probably just sets your user to root and home to /root so it would just ignore this ~/.xinitrc in that case) | 23:31 |
gnarface | you might be mixing syntax too | 23:32 |
shnaps | Oh. And when I'm running with root it is loading default xinitrc config? | 23:32 |
gnarface | probably | 23:32 |
gnarface | it's also running it as root, which is widely recognized as a bad idea | 23:32 |
shnaps | Cool, gonna try to fix it | 23:33 |
gnarface | i'm also not sure if you're suposed to mix the "&" and the "exec" syntax in this file though | 23:33 |
gnarface | there's more than one way to write it | 23:33 |
gnarface | i write mine as a full-on bash script | 23:33 |
shnaps | I'm bad with bash. So I have no idea | 23:33 |
gnarface | i use full paths to the executables instead of the "exec" keyword, basically | 23:34 |
shnaps | So, should I get "which .." and put it in script? | 23:35 |
Latrina | Good evening | 23:35 |
gnarface | shnaps: it's almost certainly /usr/bin, but yes | 23:35 |
gnarface | shnaps: you meant "which volumeicon" right? not literally "which .." ? | 23:36 |
Latrina | Is there a OpenRC iso somewhere? I have read Devuan offers a OpenRC option but cant find the installer anywhere | 23:36 |
gnarface | Latrina: it should show up in the regular installer if you're in expert mode. i'm not sure if you have to add it from the "load additional components" menu or not. | 23:36 |
gnarface | *too | 23:36 |
Latrina | oh great, didn't know. I will give it a go. Thanks man :) | 23:37 |
gnarface | no problem | 23:37 |
gnarface | note that the live image is not the regular installer | 23:37 |
shnaps | Basically, I mean that I definetily will need to write some more stuff like this. But in this case yeah, "which volumeicon" | 23:37 |
shnaps | Latrina, enable it in "load additional components". Should be option like "change init system" | 23:38 |
gnarface | shnaps: here's an example ~/.xinitrc: http://paste.debian.net/1063383/ | 23:38 |
shnaps | Should it has "#!/bin/bash" at start? | 23:39 |
gnarface | shnaps: yes | 23:39 |
shnaps | Because I definetily miss it | 23:39 |
KatolaZ | Latrina: expert mode, then select "choose-init" when you are offered to load additional components | 23:40 |
gnarface | shnaps: well this might come down to a difference in whether you wanted it treated like a bash script or not. but this has been working for me in more situations than the other format. | 23:40 |
gnarface | shnaps: (over the past 22 years) | 23:40 |
shnaps | Then I'll use it | 23:40 |
Latrina | thank you all guys :) | 23:40 |
KatolaZ | np Latrina | 23:41 |
shnaps | Huh, seems like it is easy, but I been fixing this code/xinitrc for 4 hours now :/ | 23:41 |
gnarface | shnaps: it really might just come down to you using that "exec" line and the "&" together, and it not being sure what to parse it as | 23:42 |
shnaps | But also created basic sh file which I can ran and get all apps/settings, lol | 23:42 |
shnaps | run* | 23:42 |
gnarface | there was some special rule to using the "exec" shorthands. i think .desktop files might have similar rules? i dunno, it confused me too and i gave up and went back to bash | 23:42 |
shnaps | Yeah, changing for full path now. I'll try to restart it in couple minutes | 23:42 |
shnaps | Bash I fine I guess | 23:43 |
gnarface | i mean, it confused me too, and i gave up and went back to bash about 22 years ago and just haven't revisited the issue since | 23:43 |
gnarface | someone might know what's actually wrong | 23:43 |
KatolaZ | what? | 23:44 |
gnarface | most people these days use a gui login though and don't even have this file | 23:44 |
gnarface | KatolaZ: not a bug in the distro. syntax issue in his ~/.xinitrc | 23:44 |
gnarface | KatolaZ: i'm still not sure how to properly use the "exec" keyword in there. | 23:45 |
gnarface | KatolaZ: so i just don't | 23:45 |
KatolaZ | exec is needed to actually replace the shell with the command to be run as the last command in .xinitrc | 23:45 |
KatolaZ | like in: | 23:45 |
KatolaZ | sleep 2 | 23:46 |
KatolaZ | SHELL=/bin/bash sxhkd -c ~/.sxhkd/sxhkd.conf 1>&2 2>/tmp/loglog.txt & | 23:46 |
KatolaZ | exec xmonad | 23:46 |
KatolaZ | no need to put a shebang | 23:46 |
gnarface | hmm. interesting | 23:46 |
KatolaZ | .xinitrc is always considered a shell script | 23:46 |
gnarface | i remember removing it once somewhere in 2014-2016 and it stopped working after an update so i had to put it back | 23:48 |
shnaps | This is confusing :/ | 23:48 |
shnaps | What do I supposed to have in this string then? | 23:48 |
shnaps | echo -e "exec volumeicon &" >> /home/shnaps/.xinitrc | 23:48 |
shnaps | I just want to put it in xinitrc and run after i3 loaded | 23:49 |
KatolaZ | then run i3 first | 23:49 |
gnarface | i don't think that works | 23:49 |
gnarface | i think the window manager has to be the last thing you run in there | 23:49 |
gnarface | shnaps: my advice is to run i3wm *last* ... which i know is counter-intuitive but it's also the way i thought it had to be. KatolaZ might have a different way of doing things | 23:50 |
KatolaZ | gnarface: it's not required | 23:51 |
KatolaZ | from the manpage of xinitrc: | 23:51 |
KatolaZ | "An important point is that programs which are run by .xinitrc should be run in the background if they do not exit right | 23:51 |
KatolaZ | away, so that they don't prevent other programs from starting up. However, the last long-lived program started (usually a | 23:51 |
KatolaZ | window manager or terminal emulator) should be left in the foreground so that the script won't exit (which indicates that | 23:51 |
KatolaZ | the user is done and that xinit should exit) | 23:51 |
Latrina | guys, another noob question. Where is the exper-mode supposed to be located? I went in advanced install but I couldnt find anything related to the init system | 23:51 |
shnaps | Oh, I can also show you what have I done! What service do we use to paste scripts? | 23:51 |
gnarface | shnaps: paste.debian.net doesn't have ads | 23:52 |
KatolaZ | Latrina: expert install | 23:52 |
KatolaZ | Latrina: then at a certain point it will ask you to load additional installer component | 23:52 |
KatolaZ | Latrina: there you have to select "choose-init" | 23:52 |
shnaps | So, I been tired because I reinstalled distro a lot for last couple days. And created this http://paste.debian.net/1063385/ | 23:53 |
gnarface | KatolaZ: i re-read that section of the man page but i don't think it's disagreeing with me... | 23:53 |
Latrina | found it | 23:53 |
Latrina | thanks | 23:53 |
KatolaZ | no gnarface | 23:53 |
KatolaZ | it's not disagreeing | 23:53 |
KatolaZ | it's just that the last command should be executed via exec | 23:53 |
KatolaZ | so it will be in foreground | 23:53 |
KatolaZ | and will forbir xinit from exiting | 23:54 |
KatolaZ | but it does not necessarily have to be the window manager | 23:54 |
KatolaZ | it is normally the window manager | 23:54 |
gnarface | hmmm. i see | 23:54 |
KatolaZ | since you want it to survive until the X server is up | 23:54 |
KatolaZ | (well, as long as the X server is up) | 23:54 |
KatolaZ | but it could be any program | 23:55 |
KatolaZ | the fact is that xinit exits, and shuts the server down, as soon as the last program in .xinitrc exits | 23:55 |
gnarface | fair enough | 23:55 |
gnarface | i still think there's a lot of stuff in shnaps's example here that probably shouldn't be... | 23:55 |
KatolaZ | haven't seen the example | 23:55 |
gnarface | all these apt-get commands... i don't think that should be in the xorg startup... | 23:56 |
KatolaZ | looking at the link now | 23:56 |
shnaps | This is not horg startup | 23:56 |
KatolaZ | line 3-8 are wrong, IMHO | 23:56 |
KatolaZ | also shnaps, why do you want to install stuff there? | 23:57 |
shnaps | This is just script which supposed to help me with install | 23:57 |
KatolaZ | o_O | 23:57 |
KatolaZ | I am confused | 23:57 |
KatolaZ | sorry | 23:57 |
shnaps | It is fine, lol | 23:57 |
KatolaZ | :D | 23:57 |
shnaps | "[01:53] <shnaps> So, I been tired because I reinstalled distro a lot for last couple days. And created this" | 23:57 |
shnaps | I just wanted to automate everything and do post-install script which I can download with git | 23:58 |
shnaps | And etc etc | 23:58 |
KatolaZ | ok | 23:59 |
KatolaZ | got it now | 23:59 |
KatolaZ | so that's not related to .xinitrc | 23:59 |
KatolaZ | (apart from the fact that the script puts something in .xinitrc) | 23:59 |
shnaps | Nope, only last string in this script | 23:59 |
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