va7lnx | nemo: try manually setting it up using 'ip addr' and 'ip link'. | 00:35 |
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specing | Hello, what is the state of SELinux/apparmor in Devuan? | 02:37 |
nemo | va7lnx: wasn't me | 03:00 |
va7lnx | nemo: ah sorry. that what bjorn (who is no longer here) | 03:17 |
fsmithred | specing, same as in debian | 03:53 |
va7lnx | well, I have a replacement mobo for this computer, but I have to completely C++ assignment before I can do the replacement. | 04:00 |
va7lnx | I probably won't get to the replacement until thursday or friday now. | 04:01 |
ajhlinuxuser1 | I did a migration upgrade to Devuan Jessie from Debian Wheezy. I have XFCE but gdm seems unhealthy. gdmgreeter goes <defunct> immediately after logging in and all I get is the desktop backgound. | 06:38 |
Bjornn | devuan ascii all set up on my 32g USB. yay | 06:40 |
Bjornn | a bit slow | 06:40 |
Bjornn | freedom is nice. | 06:40 |
va7lnx | Bjornn: get your ip problems figured out? | 06:40 |
Bjornn | I tried some but decided to just install fresh | 06:41 |
Bjornn | I was quite at a loss without internet | 06:42 |
ajhlinuxuser1 | Should I try installing LightDM (what I am used to in Xubuntu) or is there something I need to fix regardless of DM? | 06:42 |
ajhlinuxuser1 | The instructions say to "Choose slim" if prompted during the upgrade | 06:42 |
Bjornn | it does boot off of the bios now, which v1 did not, for me at least, on this machine. | 06:42 |
ajhlinuxuser1 | But I was not prompted. | 06:42 |
va7lnx | well, I'm going to try to get to sleep early tonight. | 06:43 |
Bjornn | sleep is not over rated. :) | 06:43 |
Bjornn | I'm off to sleep as well. | 06:47 |
golinux | ajhlinuxuser1: There has not been much if any discussion of gdm in this camp. There was this post several years ago on the ML: https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/20150222.092759.b69f8838.en.html | 07:06 |
golinux | gnome is a sickness much like systemd. They go hand in hand. | 07:07 |
golinux | Most here avoid gnome things. | 07:07 |
golinux | Slim is the default DM in Xfce. | 07:08 |
golinux | lightdm may work in jessie. In ascii dms are recommended for certain desktops because the backends have different requirements. | 07:09 |
ajhlinuxuser1 | golinux: Thank you, slim did the trick as soon as I installed it :D | 07:27 |
ajhlinuxuser1 | golinux: if you happen to have a link to the DM recommendations for different DEs, I would like to bookmark it. | 07:28 |
ajhlinuxuser1 | Otherwise I'll hunt it down before starting to use Ascii more. | 07:28 |
ajhlinuxuser1 | (I only use it as text mode so far) | 07:28 |
golinux | Read the ascii Release Notes | 07:32 |
golinux | https://files.devuan.org/devuan_ascii/Release_notes.txt | 07:34 |
golinux | The section on session management is in the bottom half. | 07:34 |
golinux | Happy to hear that slim fixed it. | 07:35 |
ajhlinuxuser1 | golinux: I have saved the link, thanks a bunch. | 07:53 |
golinux | YW! | 07:53 |
specing | fsmithred: is there work going on to modify debian's policy files to exclude systemd and include whatever devuan is using? | 10:28 |
KatolaZ | specing: ? | 10:32 |
specing | KatolaZ: it seems that if you want a secure distro, you are stuck with systemd | 10:33 |
KatolaZ | specing: I don't understand what you are talking about | 10:37 |
specing | KatolaZ: fedora/centos seem to be the only two distros with enforcing SELinux, ubuntu is the only with apparmor | 10:41 |
specing | all of those are using systemd | 10:41 |
specing | debian has SELinux/apparmor setup pages, but it is not default and it too is using systemd | 10:41 |
specing | devuan has no SELinux/apparmor setup pages | 10:41 |
KatolaZ | specing: how is apparmor related to systemd or sysvinit? | 10:42 |
KatolaZ | this is what I don't understand | 10:42 |
KatolaZ | apparmor profiles are not managed by systemd | 10:43 |
KatolaZ | or by any init system | 10:43 |
KatolaZ | and, apparmor is enabled by default in Debian Buster and in Devuan Beowulf | 10:44 |
KatolaZ | and BTW, apparmor is just one layer of security | 10:45 |
KatolaZ | it's not like all the unix systems in the last 50 years have been insecure because we did not have apparmor before... | 10:45 |
KatolaZ | o_O | 10:45 |
specing | KatolaZ: the profiles must be different, to account for different init systemd | 10:53 |
specing | s* | 10:53 |
specing | KatolaZ: yes they have been and still are. There is no more grsecurity :( | 10:53 |
KatolaZ | o_O | 10:54 |
specing | and even with grsec they are still insecure, just less so | 10:54 |
KatolaZ | then choose a secure system specing :) | 10:55 |
r3boot | Well .. to be fair .. the 90s were a shitshow for UNIX exactly b/c it didnt have an rbac framework like selinux/apparmor :P | 10:56 |
r3boot | but it's difficult(tm) to properly setup tho | 10:56 |
KatolaZ | r3boot: there is no automatic shit that can save your ass, when it comes to security | 10:56 |
r3boot | True.dat, it's never a foolproof method | 10:57 |
KatolaZ | believing in pre-built recipes is just a false sense of "security" | 10:57 |
KatolaZ | there have been "secure" federal systems pwned by script kiddies | 10:57 |
specing | KatolaZ: I am now installing Fedora on all new systems, but still wondering what the state of attitude to security is in the systemd-less world | 10:57 |
r3boot | Depends on who created the profiles imho. If you take RH's SELinux profiles for instance, those are audited by enterprises and conform to multiple international security standards. I have a fairly high confidence those profiles are okay | 10:57 |
KatolaZ | specing: I totally miss the point, sorry | 10:58 |
specing | r3boot: don't forget that grsec was also a rbac framework | 10:58 |
KatolaZ | because the init system you have has *nothing* to do with the profiles you use | 10:58 |
r3boot | specing: I know. TrustedBSD was as well, just like there were layers for Solaris which brought you the same thing. HP/UX also has such a framework | 10:58 |
specing | r3boot: that is why I am looking for a distro where this is enabled by default, i.e. not a "side concern" for a few people | 10:58 |
KatolaZ | so I keep missing the point about the "systemd-less world" | 10:59 |
r3boot | specing: in all honesty, stick with centos then, because of their 'proven' selinux profiles | 10:59 |
r3boot | (or rh, if you can afford that) | 10:59 |
specing | KatolaZ: see "specing | KatolaZ: it seems that if you want a secure distro, you are stuck with systemd" | 10:59 |
KatolaZ | specing: why? | 10:59 |
KatolaZ | please explain | 10:59 |
specing | r3boot: you are the second person to suggest centos instead of fedora, hmm | 10:59 |
KatolaZ | I told you that Devuan Beowulf has apparmor enabled by default | 10:59 |
r3boot | specing: the init system has *nothing* to do with security profile, just saying | 10:59 |
specing | KatolaZ: because systemd-less distros don't have rbac enabled and configured by default? | 11:00 |
KatolaZ | and you keep pulling in systemd vs non-systemd | 11:00 |
KatolaZ | ok | 11:00 |
KatolaZ | I am off | 11:00 |
KatolaZ | :) | 11:00 |
r3boot | KatolaZ: sigh :) | 11:00 |
r3boot | specing: look, I'm willing to talk RBAC, if you're willing to drop the systemd debate, you are being unproductive b/c that | 11:01 |
specing | r3boot: I won't drop the systemd debate because (1) there isn't any (2) devuan's existance is owed to the existance of systemd | 11:01 |
KatolaZ | specing: rbac management is done by libpam-systemd in the systemd world | 11:02 |
KatolaZ | and is offered by libpam-elogind in devuan | 11:02 |
KatolaZ | specing: if the fact that devuan exists is a problem to you, just try to ignore it | 11:04 |
KatolaZ | it won't hurt :) | 11:04 |
djph | 'morning | 11:11 |
ham5urg | Is somewhere an explanation about the runlevels in devuan? Runlevels 2,3,4,5 are looking the same at my server install (when invoking ls /etc/rc*) | 12:29 |
gnarface | they are the same as debian | 12:33 |
gnarface | they're not like redhat where there's a significance to them other than #2 being the default | 12:33 |
gnarface | they're there for whatever you want to set them up to do | 12:33 |
ham5urg | ok, thanks | 12:34 |
rrq | ham5urg: try "man inittab" for some additional words on it | 12:44 |
ham5urg | Is systemd a conspiracy to break Linux? Have been the Reds just got rewarded by eye bee m..? | 12:53 |
gnarface | obviously | 12:54 |
msiism | copying files from another machine to my devuan system on usb key, i noticed that on the other system, i wouldn't be able to run `lsblk --fs' as a non-privileged user. i had someone who knows more about this stuff help investigate a litte, which left that person guessing. so, the question is: how does devuan achieve to present info about the type of the filesystem even for unmounted devices to non-privileged users whn running lsblk? is t | 13:52 |
msiism | hat made possible by eudev? | 13:52 |
KatolaZ | msiism: you don't need any special permission, IIRC | 13:55 |
KatolaZ | that information is available in /etc/mtab | 13:56 |
KatolaZ | and via /sys/dev/block | 13:56 |
KatolaZ | /sys/dev/block is world-readable | 13:57 |
KatolaZ | (in devuan and in debian) | 13:57 |
ham5urg | Has anyone used Devuan inside virt-manager and enabled the serial console? I can the the serial logn prompt but can't enter any letter. | 13:59 |
ham5urg | I can see' | 13:59 |
ham5urg | I can see* | 13:59 |
msiism | KatolaZ: ok, thank you. | 14:03 |
specing | What is that service where you could wget a textual weather report? | 16:21 |
debdog | metar? (only for airports though) | 16:22 |
debdog | https://askubuntu.com/questions/390329/weather-from-terminal | 16:30 |
debdog | they'r using curl | 16:30 |
James1138 | A suggestion... if you use XFCE desktop... XFCE has a really good weather indicator. I use it all the time... http://goodies.xfce.org/projects/panel-plugins/xfce4-weather-plugin | 16:31 |
nemo | I rather like ansiweather | 16:34 |
nemo | [44m[36;1m Current weather in New York →[33;1m 5 °C [33;1m☀ ❙[36;1m UVI →[33;1m 2.85 ❙[36;1m Wind →[33;1m 4.1 m/s NE ❙[36;1m Humidity →[33;1m 59 % ❙[36;1m Pressure →[33;1m 1024 hPa [0m | 16:35 |
nemo | /exec -out ~/git/ansiweather/ansiweather | 16:36 |
James1138 | GRIN... okay... Coordinates | 16:40 |
James1138 | Altitude: 698.82 ft | 16:40 |
James1138 | Latitude: 40.5458° | 16:40 |
James1138 | Longitude: -86.5234° | 16:40 |
James1138 | Downloads | 16:40 |
James1138 | Weather data: | 16:40 |
James1138 | Last:2019-02-06 09:52:10 | 16:40 |
James1138 | Next:2019-02-06 10:52:10 | 16:40 |
James1138 | Current failed attempts: 0 | 16:40 |
James1138 | Astronomical data: | 16:40 |
James1138 | Last:2019-02-05 18:58:55 | 16:40 |
James1138 | Next:2019-02-06 18:58:55 | 16:40 |
James1138 | Current failed attempts: 0 | 16:40 |
James1138 | Times Used for Calculations | 16:40 |
James1138 | Temperatures, wind, atmosphere and cloud data calculated | 16:40 |
James1138 | for:2019-02-06 10:35:00 | 16:40 |
unixman | Uh, WTF? | 16:40 |
James1138 | Precipitation and the weather symbol have been calculated | 16:40 |
James1138 | using the following time interval: | 16:40 |
James1138 | Start:2019-02-06 10:00:00 | 16:41 |
James1138 | End:2019-02-06 11:00:00 | 16:41 |
James1138 | Astronomical Data | 16:41 |
James1138 | Sunrise:2019-02-06 07:50:36 | 16:41 |
James1138 | Sunset:2019-02-06 18:10:01 | 16:41 |
James1138 | Moon phase:Waxing crescent | 16:41 |
James1138 | Moonrise:2019-02-06 08:59:58 | 16:41 |
James1138 | Moonset:2019-02-06 19:57:30 | 16:41 |
James1138 | Temperatures | 16:41 |
James1138 | Temperature: 39.6 °F | 16:41 |
James1138 | Dew point: 37.9 °F | 16:41 |
James1138 | Apparent temperature: 35.6 °F | 16:41 |
James1138 | Wind | 16:41 |
James1138 | Speed: 5.4 mph (2 on the Beaufort scale) | 16:41 |
James1138 | Direction: NW (293.7°) | 16:41 |
James1138 | Precipitation | 16:41 |
James1138 | Precipitation amount: 0.00 in | 16:41 |
James1138 | Atmosphere | 16:41 |
James1138 | Barometric pressure: 14.7 psi | 16:41 |
James1138 | Relative humidity: 93.6 % | 16:41 |
James1138 | Clouds | 16:41 |
James1138 | Fog: 0.0 % | 16:41 |
James1138 | Low clouds: 64.3 % | 16:41 |
* MinceR scratches head | 16:42 | |
unixman | Looks like James1138 ran an /exec for some weather thingy with output to the channel. Maybe didn't know that would happen? :) | 16:43 |
MinceR | maybe use pastebin for this sort of stuff? | 16:43 |
nemo | hmmm | 16:52 |
nemo | that's weird | 16:52 |
nemo | oh. he can't possibly have used ansiweather. it's one line by default | 16:52 |
nemo | was worried I'd trapped poor james into spam somehow | 16:53 |
nemo | that'll teach him to run stuff locally first | 16:53 |
James1138 | Sorry all. | 16:56 |
nemo | James1138: http://m8y.org/tmp/unicodesilliness.txt if this sort of thing entertains you. maybe test in a /msg James1138 first. or you can /msg nemo if you feel like it ☺ | 16:57 |
nemo | for i in {0..63};{((i%16!=11&&i%16<14))&&C+=($((i+127137)));};n=52;for i in {1..5};{((x=RANDOM%n--,y=C[x],C[x]=C[n]));printf "\U`printf %x $y` ";} | 16:57 |
nemo | ↑ that one was result of some code golf | 16:57 |
nemo | shortest bash script possible to generate a random 5 card poker hand | 16:57 |
unixman | James1138, everyone here has done something just as "bad" at some point. Even those who will deny doing so vehemently. Don't sweat it. ;) | 17:02 |
furrywolf | more I've accidentally selected the entire terminal in the process of trying to paste something, and thus pasted the entire channel log back into a channel... | 17:03 |
unixman | Yeah, same here. :D | 17:03 |
furrywolf | more than once | 17:03 |
unixman | FTR, stuff like that on IRC isn't really "bad". Now, the time I accidentally deleted /etc on my own SCO Unixware server, that *really* sucked. | 17:05 |
DonkeyHotei | bad for others vs. bad for yourself | 17:06 |
nemo | unixman: that's 'sactly why our more responsible admin, 20y ago, before everything was virtual and snapshotted, hardlinked critical everything in critical like /etc and /www to /shadow/etc /shadow/www with a cronjob | 17:10 |
nemo | hm | 17:10 |
nemo | that sentence suffers from poor editing when I rephrased, but whatev ☺ | 17:10 |
nemo | point was, rm -rf was no longer permanent, we had a window of a couple of weeks | 17:11 |
unixman | nemo, well, I had backups (full and incremental). Thing is, after that FUBAR I decided to try using FreeBSD on that hardware instead of trying to restore the backups of /etc. The data was safe on backups and the system was basically just a NFS file server with some custom SCO stuff on it. Anyway, this isn't really Devuan related, so if you want to keep talking about it, let's do that in #debianfork. ;) | 17:16 |
_abc_ | How does one list the full package version for installed packages, like libreoffice? | 19:58 |
_abc_ | https://www.theregister.co.uk/2019/02/04/apache_openoffice_no_patch/ relevant | 19:59 |
_abc_ | expected outcome: print like libreoffice 1:5.2.7-1+deb9u4 -- I get only libreoffice 1:5.2.7-1+deb9u <-missing sub-release version? | 19:59 |
_abc_ | The About window in libreoffice prints the whole version with the u4 at the end | 19:59 |
_abc_ | https://www.libreoffice.org/about-us/security/advisories/cve-2018-16858/ this is the cve | 20:00 |
_abc_ | ?? | 20:02 |
fsmithred | _abc_, 'dpkg -l libreoffice' or 'dpkg -l | grep libreoffice' | 20:09 |
fsmithred | second way won't cut off the version | 20:10 |
fsmithred | I see 1:5.2.7-1+deb9u5 in ascii-security | 20:11 |
fsmithred | apt-cache policy libreoffice ^^^ | 20:12 |
_abc_ | I used dlocate -l it cuts off the release. So does aptitude. | 20:24 |
_abc_ | fsmithred: I'll try to upgrade | 20:24 |
_abc_ | Working. | 20:25 |
_abc_ | Does that fix the CVE fsmithred ? | 20:26 |
_abc_ | And thanks for the answer. | 20:26 |
fsmithred | I don't know about the CVE | 20:26 |
Jjp137 | it should: https://www.debian.org/security/2019/dsa-4381 | 20:27 |
DonkeyHotei | i use: dpkg -l libreoffice|cat | 20:28 |
fsmithred | unless they uploaded a new version today, deb9u5 is the latest in ascii-security and debian-security (stretch) | 20:28 |
_abc_ | fsmithred: I upgraded to u4 but if I start libreoffice and look in About it's still at u4 | 20:29 |
_abc_ | Need to see what daemon is alive here | 20:29 |
fsmithred | you have ascii-security in sources.list? | 20:29 |
_abc_ | Can anyone confirm that About in libreoffice upgraded to u5 reports u5? Mine reports u4. | 20:29 |
_abc_ | libreoffice-report-builder stayed at u4 | 20:30 |
_abc_ | libreoffice-script-provider-bsh stayed at u4 | 20:30 |
fsmithred | I don't have it installed, but 'apt-get -s install libreoffice' tells me I will get deb9u5 | 20:32 |
_abc_ | fsmithred: dpkg -l libreoffice listed many updated packages from libreoffice, but some stayed at u4 | 20:32 |
_abc_ | I am now updating them manually | 20:32 |
fsmithred | how did you upgrade libreoffice to start with? | 20:32 |
_abc_ | apt-get install libreoffice | 20:33 |
_abc_ | That upgraded several components but not all | 20:33 |
_abc_ | Just a sec when it finishes I'll post what else it upgraded | 20:33 |
_abc_ | I/manually | 20:33 |
fsmithred | does 'apt-cache policy libreoffice' show you the u5 version? | 20:33 |
_abc_ | shows u5 | 20:33 |
fsmithred | ok | 20:33 |
_abc_ | Fingers crossed I need libreoffice in a few days. Badly. | 20:34 |
_abc_ | I had to do this manually, after apt-get install libreoffice :: sudo apt-get install libreoffice-report-builder libreoffice-script-provider-bsh libreoffice-script-provider-js libreoffice-script-provider-python libreoffice-style-galaxy libreoffice-style-tango libreoffice-wiki-publisher | 20:34 |
fsmithred | maybe 'apt-get -t ascii-security install libreoffice' will upgrade the older ones | 20:35 |
fsmithred | are you running refracta or pure devuan? | 20:35 |
_abc_ | Ok so the 1st install did download but not finish upgrading since the packages in the 2nd command were needed. Looking at the log it's clear it operated only the second time. | 20:35 |
_abc_ | fsmithred: refracta installed pure debian I think. | 20:36 |
_abc_ | Was 1st a live system with persistence then installed to hdd then upgraded from there. | 20:36 |
_abc_ | staying on ascii all the time | 20:36 |
_abc_ | *refracta installed pure devuan | 20:36 |
fsmithred | yeah, refracta just uses devuan repos, but Recommends are excluded | 20:37 |
_abc_ | I copied the live system to hdd, after I made the live system run properly. | 20:37 |
fsmithred | check /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/norecommends | 20:37 |
_abc_ | no such file or dir | 20:38 |
fsmithred | might be 00norecommends | 20:38 |
fsmithred | you can always block the Recommends when you install something | 20:39 |
fsmithred | apt-get --no-install-recommends install blah OR aptitude -R install blah | 20:39 |
fsmithred | not sure how it is with just apt | 20:39 |
_abc_ | ran updatedb and norecommends does not exist | 20:41 |
fsmithred | ok | 20:41 |
fsmithred | then I don't know what happened | 20:41 |
_abc_ | Seems to pass the initial tests and opens relevant documents after upgrade. Hope all will be well. | 20:42 |
_abc_ | I think they snafud the package so it downloaded but could not install fully because of the extra packages which were not entered as deps | 20:42 |
_abc_ | So once the extras were upgraded the main also succeeded. | 20:42 |
fsmithred | yeah, but normally, Recommends get installed automatically, and some of those packages are listed as Recommends | 20:43 |
_abc_ | fsmithred: I have a hard time making a system crashproof. I modified an installed system to run with read-only mounted root but that fails, the root stays rw. The live scripts and the initrd + init scripts which deal with system boot time volume mounting are a jungle. | 20:44 |
_abc_ | Is any work under way to make that a little more solid? | 20:44 |
_abc_ | Read-only mounted root has /etc /home /var mounted as separate mounts rw | 20:44 |
fsmithred | booting a live system from a hard drive should work | 20:44 |
_abc_ | And then root is mount -o remount,ro but that fails, it stays rw | 20:45 |
fsmithred | boot a live system and have persistence set up for /etc /home and /var | 20:45 |
_abc_ | fsmithred: sure but I need the "persistence" partition for it, and I need to auto-fix that at boot time when uncleanly taken down | 20:45 |
fsmithred | not sure what your persistence.conf would look like, but I'm pretty sure you can do it | 20:45 |
_abc_ | The problem is I need a fsck hook which does more than fsck if fsck fails before those mounts. And the part which does that is buried deep in live scripts. | 20:46 |
_abc_ | Is there a guide to the live scripts somewhere? | 20:46 |
fsmithred | yeah, there's a debian-live manual | 20:46 |
_abc_ | Also why does remounting root as ro fail? | 20:46 |
fsmithred | I don't know | 20:46 |
_abc_ | Sigh. Shall I try to take it down to single user before trying remount root ro? | 20:47 |
_abc_ | I did not try that. | 20:47 |
fsmithred | I get "mount: / is busy" | 20:48 |
_abc_ | I don't even get an error iirc. | 20:49 |
_abc_ | I also did it with -f | 20:49 |
_abc_ | Of course you can't remount ro with the system running on it but after mounting etc var home as rw it should be possible | 20:49 |
_abc_ | fuser should tell you what holds / open | 20:50 |
_abc_ | fuser -v|less | 20:50 |
* _abc_ seriously misses bsd style securelevel in linux | 20:51 | |
_abc_ | sudo fuser -v / 2>&1|less | 20:51 |
_abc_ | works better | 20:51 |
_abc_ | On old old systems one could handle mounting root ro, fsck from initrd, them remount rw, mount the etc home var tmp etc, then make it ro again, then continue booting | 20:52 |
_abc_ | brb | 20:53 |
Mr_Poopy_Pants | herro? | 22:58 |
Mr_Poopy_Pants | nobody there? | 22:59 |
Mr_Poopy_Pants | seriously? | 22:59 |
Mr_Poopy_Pants | hello? | 23:00 |
Mr_Poopy_Pants | hello? | 23:01 |
Mr_Poopy_Pants | ? | 23:01 |
_abc_ | change your diapers and come back | 23:01 |
Mr_Poopy_Pants | ok, cool someone there | 23:02 |
_abc_ | Yeah, cu | 23:02 |
Mr_Poopy_Pants | I have a question - I am trying to install Devuan to an HP Laptop | 23:02 |
Mr_Poopy_Pants | I started Jessie 1.0 with UEFI, but the GRUB Bootloader didn't take | 23:02 |
Mr_Poopy_Pants | now I am reinstalling it in Legacy. | 23:03 |
Mr_Poopy_Pants | Is there a problem with UEFI? | 23:03 |
specing | LOL | 23:04 |
Mr_Poopy_Pants | no lol-ing | 23:06 |
Mr_Poopy_Pants | Installing Devuan on an HP laptop - Grub Boot Loader Unable to Configure - Executing 'update-grub' failed - this is a fatal error. Tried already with BIOS in UEFI, and it's doing the same thing in Legacy mode. It boots when I put the separate Grub2 bootloader disk in, but it will not install grub at all. what do I do now? I really want to try out Devuan... :( | 23:17 |
golinux | Intel Skylake? | 23:18 |
golinux | That series of process wouldn't install iirc | 23:19 |
golinux | processor | 23:20 |
golinux | Would also be helpful to know which iso you used. | 23:20 |
Mr_Poopy_Pants | I was able to boot into the distro using the separate grub2 disk. I went in to the repositories to try and load grub again that way, and it still won't install. | 23:21 |
Mr_Poopy_Pants | I used the amd jessie 1.0 | 23:21 |
Mr_Poopy_Pants | (I don't know enough about Devuan just yet) | 23:22 |
golinux | https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=542 | 23:22 |
Mr_Poopy_Pants | <--newb | 23:22 |
Mr_Poopy_Pants | Here's the other thing - I DID try the ascii install, but I got errored out in the boot-up because I had to laod some drivers for the wireless - ifwifi-3168-23, 24, and 25. tried to boot into safe mode, and I get the same errors. | 23:24 |
Mr_Poopy_Pants | grub loaded though............ | 23:24 |
Mr_Poopy_Pants | lol | 23:25 |
Mr_Poopy_Pants | maybe I can find another systemd-free distro........ :'( | 23:25 |
krauserii | assuming buster gets released as the stable version by the end of this year, how long, more or less, would take devuan to release Beowulf as stable? | 23:46 |
golinux | krauserii: Our plan is to eventually catch up with Debian's release cycle. We might be able to do it with beowulf. | 23:50 |
krauserii | golinux: got it, thanks for the info | 23:55 |
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