| watchcat | thanks, this has been very entertaining. | 01:27 |
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| tuxd3v | watchat: thanks, for bringing some entertainment to us | 01:29 |
| tuxd3v | :) | 01:29 |
| * gour is doing (last) backup before installing devuan on the desktop | 07:22 | |
| gour | ok, see you later, hopefully, from devuan | 07:35 |
| gour | morning | 09:23 |
| gour | hello from the devuan desktop! | 09:24 |
| gour | after install, reboot went fine, but after upgrading to ceres, grub fails to install on my mbr | 09:24 |
| gour | (after i was installing latest kernel) | 09:25 |
| gour | here is the error: https://pastebin.com/bMnKa495 | 09:38 |
| detha | gg chome. "[27860:27860:0411/093849.052497:ERROR:browser_dm_token_storage_linux.cc(93)] Error: /etc/machine-id contains 32 characters (32 were expected)." | 09:45 |
| gour | well, grub-install reports error, but machine still does boot | 09:49 |
| Evilham | gour: I was gonna say open a bug report.... But BTS is doen :-D should be fixed, remember that will you? | 10:32 |
| gour | Evilham: ok, will do | 10:33 |
| Centurion_Dan | the bts system is not down... more likely an issue with report bug... iirc it will not accept http reports, only via smtp. | 10:36 |
| gour | i use clamav for claws and /etc/clamav/clamd.conf is installed with root:root, but it should probably be clamav:clamav or clamad:adm? | 10:38 |
| xinomilo | root:root in /etc | 10:48 |
| xinomilo | clamav:clamav for /var/lib/clamav | 10:48 |
| gour | xinomilo: but freshclam.conf in /etc is clamav:clamav? | 11:04 |
| xinomilo | clamav:adm | 11:07 |
| gour | xinomilo: ok, thank you. claws' plugin works now | 13:22 |
| tuxd3v | Good morning freedom lovers | 13:34 |
| tuxd3v | gour: o/ | 13:42 |
| tuxd3v | how are you going? | 13:42 |
| debdog | ...like an egyption (SCNR) | 13:43 |
| debdog | *ian | 13:43 |
| gour | tuxd3v: pretty good. restoring stuff from my backup, installing missing pkgs... | 13:49 |
| tuxd3v | gour: Nice to hear that things are going well ;) | 13:50 |
| gour | tuxd3v: thunar's automount works well and that's how i decided to leave systemd-OS :-) | 13:53 |
| tuxd3v | gour: yes indeed, I am glad you are succeding | 13:55 |
| tuxd3v | at beguining you feel yourself almost between 2 choices that you have to make.. | 13:55 |
| tuxd3v | then you realise the freedom you get back.. | 13:55 |
| tuxd3v | very nice! :) | 13:56 |
| surrounder | freeeeedoooooom! | 13:56 |
| gour | tuxd3v: i'm using linux since '99 and never felt well with systemd...just prior of arch's moving to systemd i left it | 13:56 |
| gour | however, dunno why i haven't installed devuan earlier :-( | 13:57 |
| gour | was trying with free/pcbsd for some time, but had to leave few times... | 13:57 |
| tuxd3v | gour: I understand you, because changing a system is not a easy task, when you tweak any part of it, and you control your system.. | 13:58 |
| tuxd3v | I think its a gradual change, until the point that you really feel the need to switch | 13:59 |
| tuxd3v | I think its almost the same with everybody out there | 13:59 |
| tuxd3v | I felt myself relieved after changing from Debian to Devuan | 14:00 |
| tuxd3v | systemd is also not my thing.. | 14:00 |
| gour | i also spent some time using gnome, although xfce was always my primary choice...didn't try KDE since 0.9x and then with opensuse tried Plasma for a few days only :-) | 14:00 |
| surrounder | gour: never was a KDE fan either but I really have to admit, they did a great job with plasma 5 - it's memory usage is compareble to xfce these days | 14:01 |
| gour | in general, i appreciate simplicity as value in my life and systemd is just the opposite...something like pushing JS-crap on the desktop | 14:01 |
| gour | surrounder: i agree, but i'm using (neo/g)vim gnucash, claws...not much qt apps | 14:02 |
| tuxd3v | gour: You right, its the same for me | 14:02 |
| surrounder | gour: same here, hardly any GUI apps at all in fact | 14:02 |
| surrounder | but they really did a great job | 14:02 |
| gour | sunshavi: i also like xfce's configurability...yeah, KDE is doing nice things | 14:03 |
| tuxd3v | surrounder: I never saw a kde release above kde2, using low resources of memory | 14:03 |
| surrounder | tuxd3v: plasma 5.x really does, +/- 300 MB on my last install | 14:03 |
| surrounder | comparable with xfce on the same hardware | 14:04 |
| tuxd3v | sorrounder: My Desktop is xfce and around ~200MB Ram | 14:04 |
| surrounder | nice :) | 14:05 |
| tuxd3v | and this because I have some extra plugins | 14:05 |
| surrounder | xfce is lovely | 14:05 |
| tuxd3v | you need to choose your applications /plugins and so | 14:07 |
| tuxd3v | it will depend ofcourse from user to user, has anyone has its preferences.. | 14:07 |
| tuxd3v | Maybe out there are someone using some ~180MB Ram | 14:07 |
| tuxd3v | but I feel that around 200 is a nice start | 14:08 |
| tuxd3v | also I don't use thunderbird | 14:08 |
| tuxd3v | has email client | 14:08 |
| tuxd3v | I use sylpheed | 14:09 |
| surrounder | neither, only graphical applications I use are firefox, geeqie and sometimes thunar ( usually terminal + mc though ) | 14:09 |
| tuxd3v | which is text based only no html, emails, so its a tradeof | 14:09 |
| surrounder | tuxd3v: html in email is horrible anyhow | 14:11 |
| gour | if i'd be the only user of my machine, then probably i could go along with i3, but considering that other family members occasionaly have a need for some browsing etc., then xfce is more adequate | 14:12 |
| tuxd3v | gour: I Agree xfce is more classic Desktop, any person can use its tools | 14:15 |
| tuxd3v | surrounder: How do you compare geeqie with Ristretto ? | 14:16 |
| tuxd3v | geeqi seems nice | 14:16 |
| surrounder | heh, I don't know Ristretto :) | 14:16 |
| tuxd3v | er, geeqie | 14:16 |
| tuxd3v | geeqie has Linear RGB histogram, and Exif information..its the things I miss in Ristretto | 14:24 |
| tuxd3v | don't know about its memory usage | 14:24 |
| surrounder | not shocking | 14:24 |
| gour | i'm trying with my nano-usb wifi adapter in case when something might be problemtic with ethernet, the dongle is realtek-based chipset using rtl8192 fw, but it cannot connect - i'm getting “aborting authentication by local choice (Reason: 3=DEAUTH_LEAVING)" and found some posts (https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/386925/aborting-authentication-by-local-choice-reason-3-deauth-leaving-when-trying) saying the problem might be long interface names - i | 14:25 |
| gour | n my case wlx00e04c819215, so do you have any recommendation how to properly fix it? | 14:25 |
| gour | i'm trying with my nano-usb wifi adapter in case when something might be problemtic with ethernet, the dongle is realtek-based chipset using rtl8192 fw, but it cannot connect - i'm getting “aborting authentication by local choice (Reason: 3=DEAUTH_LEAVING)" and found some posts (https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/386925/aborting-authentication-by-local-choice-reason-3-deauth-leaving-when-trying) saying the problem might be long interface names - i | 14:32 |
| gour | n my case wlx00e04c819215, so do you have any recommendation how to properly fix it? | 14:32 |
| tuxd3v | gour: the simple way would be to disable eudev persistent names | 14:33 |
| tuxd3v | only to verify | 14:33 |
| tuxd3v | the thing we have done yesterday | 14:34 |
| tuxd3v | disabling the dell persistent attempt for names used in systemd and also the eudev persistent names | 14:34 |
| tuxd3v | in that way you could test it if everything is working or not | 14:34 |
| gour | aha, net.ifnames=0 ? | 14:34 |
| tuxd3v | both equal to zero | 14:35 |
| gour | ok, have to do some household tasks, then i'll try and report back | 14:35 |
| tuxd3v | net.ifnames=0 biosdevname=0 | 14:35 |
| tuxd3v | only to check, and then enabling only eudev persistent one | 14:36 |
| tuxd3v | net.ifnames=1 biosdevname=0 | 14:36 |
| tuxd3v | andcreating a eudev rule for it, so that it will have a small name | 14:36 |
| gour | ok, eudev is completely new stuff for me, would have to do some reading | 14:37 |
| tuxd3v | no problem | 14:37 |
| tuxd3v | if you need help on that we can try to help :) | 14:38 |
| tuxd3v | Is there any rules to add a new package to Devuan? | 15:46 |
| tuxd3v | what are the pre-requisites | 15:46 |
| tuxd3v | I am thinking in adding libtekui | 15:47 |
| tuxd3v | http://tekui.neoscientists.org/screenshots.html | 15:48 |
| tuxd3v | its a library to create graphical stuff | 15:48 |
| tuxd3v | its very nice and powerfull | 15:48 |
| tuxd3v | debian doesn't have it | 15:49 |
| tuxd3v | devuan neither | 15:49 |
| buZz | tuxd3v: seems pretty abandoned? | 15:53 |
| buZz | no dev for almost 5 years | 15:54 |
| buZz | oh, bit more on their repo, still not a lot | 15:54 |
| detha | that is generally a good sign - stable library, with no feature creep | 16:24 |
| buZz | or no users ;) | 16:40 |
| tuxd3v | no tekUi has a iatus of about 4 ~5 years between releases | 16:44 |
| tuxd3v | its a very stable and powerfull framwork, | 16:45 |
| tuxd3v | very small | 16:45 |
| tuxd3v | and complete | 16:45 |
| tuxd3v | also, no dependencies | 16:45 |
| tuxd3v | :) | 16:45 |
| tuxd3v | which is very nice | 16:46 |
| tuxd3v | it was released a snapshot at request this year | 16:46 |
| tuxd3v | http://tekui.neoscientists.org/releases/ | 16:46 |
| tuxd3v | its the first one | 16:47 |
| tuxd3v | in the list | 16:47 |
| tuxd3v | its the counterpart for Lua, or C aplications, or C++ | 16:47 |
| tuxd3v | you can use it even with Pallene, or terra language | 16:48 |
| topro | hi there. I'm considering hosting a devuan mirror. is there some documentation on how to this the devuan way (I assume apt-mirror is not the way its meant to be)? | 16:49 |
| tuxd3v | maybe even with Python, but here, I don't really know | 16:49 |
| tuxd3v | so lots of opportunity's for a lot of people out there( me included ), if they want to use it.. | 16:50 |
| tuxd3v | small footprint | 16:50 |
| tuxd3v | I was thinking in packaging it | 16:51 |
| tuxd3v | but don't really know, about the requirments to add it do devuan repos | 16:51 |
| tuxd3v | as a mantainer | 16:51 |
| tuxd3v | has a package mantainer | 16:51 |
| tuxd3v | freedom of choice | 16:52 |
| tuxd3v | :) | 16:52 |
| tuxd3v | <detha>, exactly, the framewaork is writen in ANSIC | 16:53 |
| tuxd3v | Lua tools are very rigid in the way you program | 16:53 |
| tuxd3v | you can even compile it for microcontrollers, with some efort | 16:54 |
| tuxd3v | any ANSIC compiler should be able to work eith it.. | 16:54 |
| tuxd3v | er, eith -> with | 16:54 |
| fsmithred | tuxd3v, there's no solid procedure in place for getting a package into devuan repos | 16:55 |
| fsmithred | if you can clone a git repo to get the source, such that you get their full history, that's a good start | 16:55 |
| fsmithred | package it and let people know it's available | 16:55 |
| fsmithred | if there's enough interest and devs think it should be in the repo, it can get in | 16:56 |
| xinomilo | topro, package mirror: https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/devuan_mirror_walkthrough.txt | 16:57 |
| xinomilo | release mirror : https://files.devuan.org/MIRRORS.txt | 16:57 |
| tuxd3v | fsmithred: thanks for your response | 16:58 |
| fsmithred | yw | 16:58 |
| tuxd3v | fsmithred, ok, I will do that :) | 16:58 |
| tuxd3v | fsmithred: then I will let you know about it | 16:58 |
| fsmithred | one thing that's important is that you maintain it | 16:58 |
| fsmithred | over time | 16:58 |
| fsmithred | one-shot deals are not really helpful | 16:59 |
| tuxd3v | yes I understand that | 16:59 |
| fsmithred | cool | 16:59 |
| fsmithred | just had to say that 'cause some people come here and think we have a huge team of devs | 17:00 |
| tuxd3v | I understand | 17:00 |
| tuxd3v | And devuan using it, will help people working with it, to come to devuan too | 17:01 |
| tuxd3v | its a differentiation factor | 17:01 |
| tuxd3v | :) | 17:01 |
| gour | in the past i did submit few ebuilds for gentoo, pkgbuilds for arch, some tempaltes for voidlinux and created few rpms, but newer learned/mastered creating of *.deb packages. does devuan make it (possibly) easier to learn the art? | 17:01 |
| nemo | shoot. I was really hoping the MATE backport would have fixed power management, but no such luck ☹ | 17:02 |
| fsmithred | gour, not really. There's d1h, which is a front-end for building from git, which helps a little | 17:02 |
| fsmithred | but debian packaging is somewhat complicated | 17:03 |
| fsmithred | I certainly haven't mastered it | 17:03 |
| fsmithred | yet I do maintain a few packages | 17:03 |
| gour | ok. if stay with devuan - and there is no reason not to - then it's maybe a time to learn a bit | 17:04 |
| fsmithred | if you just want to package something for yourself (like maybe to backport a newer version of something)... | 17:04 |
| fsmithred | it can be pretty easy | 17:04 |
| gour | i see | 17:04 |
| fsmithred | depending on what the package is | 17:04 |
| fsmithred | it's also possible that I just think packaging is complicated because the debian documentation is complicated | 17:05 |
| fsmithred | (i.e. sucks in some ways) | 17:06 |
| topro | xinomilo: thanks a lot! | 17:06 |
| xinomilo | nemo, only ascii package mate-power-manager from antofox repo works. | 17:06 |
| fsmithred | be back in 10 min. | 17:07 |
| xinomilo | look for version 1.20.0-1+hezeh1 | 17:08 |
| nemo | xinomilo: oh. neat. thanks for suggestion | 17:30 |
| nemo | xinomilo: will there be any problems with the fact that I installed -t stable-backports mate ? | 18:14 |
| nemo | (hoping to finally fix battery state/suspend etc) | 18:14 |
| xinomilo | no problem | 18:41 |
| xinomilo | using same version in beowulf/ceres | 18:42 |
| nemo | xinomilo: do you mind sharing the repo link? having a hard time locating it | 19:06 |
| nemo | when searching for "antofox repo" | 19:06 |
| xinomilo | try: deb http://www.hezeh.org/packages/ ascii main contrib non-free | 19:08 |
| gour | i'm trying to start e.g. taskd server for taskwarrior and get: Starting taskwarrior sync server: taskd/etc/init.d/taskd: 26: /etc/init.d/taskd: start-stop-daemon: not found | 19:29 |
| gour | what's wrong? | 19:29 |
| gnarface | tjere | 19:32 |
| gnarface | *there's | 19:32 |
| gour | the service script does: . /lib/lsb/init-functions and the functions are there? | 19:32 |
| gnarface | a bunch of shell script functions in some package you're missing | 19:32 |
| gnarface | yea probably | 19:32 |
| gnarface | start-stop-daemon is just a shell function | 19:32 |
| gnarface | there's a few of them, without them most the stock init scripts won't work | 19:33 |
| gnarface | i'm surprised your system even booted | 19:33 |
| gnarface | how you could be missing this is an important question | 19:33 |
| furrywolf | broken dpkg install? | 19:33 |
| gour | gnarface: here is the part of the script: https://pastebin.com/yDjQRxki | 19:34 |
| gour | and i've /lib/lsb/init-functions, what's wrong? | 19:34 |
| furrywolf | /sbin not in path? not running as root? | 19:34 |
| gnarface | oh i'm wrong | 19:34 |
| gnarface | actually it looks like start-stop-daemon is a binary now | 19:35 |
| gnarface | it should be in /sbin | 19:35 |
| gnarface | and yea it should be in the dpkg package | 19:35 |
| furrywolf | did they remove it since systemd now does that too, and you have debian's package or something? | 19:37 |
| gnarface | gour: was that a ceres install? i forget | 19:37 |
| gnarface | if it was ceres, it would not be unheard of for vandalism to have occurred | 19:39 |
| furrywolf | add a line to the script to echo $PATH and ls -l /sbin/start-stop-daemon | 19:41 |
| furrywolf | bbl, time to do morning things | 19:42 |
| gour | gnarface: yes, ceres | 19:54 |
| gour | yes, /usr/sbin is nor in the $PATH, start-stop-daemon is in /sbin | 19:56 |
| gnarface | gour: /usr/sbin and /sbin should both be in root's path | 19:58 |
| furrywolf | I don't know what path gets sent to init scripts | 21:13 |
| furrywolf | checking a couple ones on my box, they seem to set the path themselves. | 21:13 |
| furrywolf | PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin | 21:13 |
| furrywolf | (from /etc/init.d/cups) | 21:13 |
| furrywolf | I'd suggest pasting that into the script and calling it good. :) | 21:14 |
| gour | gnarface: that (adding PATH line into the script) helped | 21:31 |
| furrywolf | ... address you for my suggestion, then leave without saying thanks? that's how to make sure I help the next person who comes along! | 21:34 |
| gnarface | hmmm | 21:39 |
| gnarface | that was a little weird but i don't think you're the one who was being tested there | 21:39 |
| furrywolf | lol | 21:39 |
| gour | i'm experiencing some instability with slim - when i logout from xfce and want to xfce, it seems it does not like it, iow. it's not possible to re-login. tried to restart it from console, but no luck, so wonder what are your experiences with it and/or whether some other manager like lightdm would be better option? | 21:47 |
| gnarface | i like xdm | 21:49 |
| gnarface | i'm not sure it's a problem with slim though | 21:50 |
| gnarface | the release notes for ascii mention that slim needs consolekit, which is mutually exclusive with elogind, but both may get installed and sabotage each other and the login manager | 21:51 |
| gnarface | for ceres, i don't even know for sure if the patch to make that much works | 21:51 |
| gnarface | https://files.devuan.org/devuan_ascii/Release_notes.txt | 21:51 |
| gour | gnarface: does it mean it would be better to use Beowulf then? | 21:54 |
| ashleyk | ugh | 21:58 |
| gnarface | gour: no | 21:58 |
| ashleyk | i plug in ethernet, and it is up and transmitting / recieving packets, and dhclient is running, but it never gets an ip | 21:58 |
| ashleyk | works if its plugged in at boot... | 21:59 |
| gnarface | gour: it means it would be better to make sure that you've tested my first assertion so i can give you further advice | 21:59 |
| buZz | ashleyk: maybe it already had a connection over wifi so doesnt make a new one over ethernet? | 21:59 |
| gnarface | gour: (note, i don't know if you tested that assertion because you didn't respond about it) | 21:59 |
| gour | gnarface: interface names? | 21:59 |
| ashleyk | buZz, i want it to use ethernet | 22:00 |
| gnarface | gour: no. make sure you have consolekit installed, and make sure you do not have elogind installed. | 22:00 |
| buZz | ashleyk: i was trying to imagine a situation that could describe what you're seeing | 22:00 |
| ashleyk | yes, it has a wireless connection | 22:00 |
| ashleyk | but i dont want to have to reboot to get an ethernet ip | 22:01 |
| gour | gnarface: both are installed | 22:01 |
| buZz | disable the wireless connection then? | 22:01 |
| gnarface | ashleyk: you should just be able to restart the dhcp client | 22:01 |
| ashleyk | these are unattended devices | 22:01 |
| buZz | ashleyk: ifdown wlan0; ifup eth0? :P | 22:01 |
| ashleyk | i need it to be predictable | 22:01 |
| buZz | ashleyk: well you'd attend them first to configure them to work how you want | 22:01 |
| buZz | you can configure your interfaces in /etc/network/interfaces anyway, you could disable the wireless one there | 22:02 |
| gnarface | gour: do you really need me to tell you to uninstall elogind? i don't know if that will fix it i just know that it's known not to work in ascii if both are installed. https://files.devuan.org/devuan_ascii/Release_notes.txt | 22:02 |
| buZz | unless you're using some other wifi manager | 22:02 |
| gour | gnarface: elogind is required for NM, so it looks i should (maybe) try with wicd instead? | 22:02 |
| ashleyk | so im trying to get it to get an ethernet ip when i plug in the ethernet | 22:02 |
| ashleyk | instead of just transmitting and recieving packets but never getting an ip...i dont knwo what its sending | 22:03 |
| gnarface | gour: either that, or try a login manager that works with elogind (they are listed in the release notes i just linked) | 22:03 |
| ashleyk | wait, it got an ethernet ip, it just took MINUTES | 22:03 |
| ashleyk | weird | 22:03 |
| gnarface | gour: but then you'd have to uninstall consolekit | 22:03 |
| gour | gnarface: ok, so many things at once while i'm trying to reconsolidate after migration :-) | 22:04 |
| gnarface | gour: you don't actually need the login manager at all. that's only if you want a fancy graphical prompt. | 22:04 |
| ashleyk | ideally i could set it to disable the wireless when the ethernet is plugged in, and enable it when its unplugged | 22:05 |
| ashleyk | but that seems even more unpredictable and requires using Lennart Poettering unpredictable code | 22:06 |
| ashleyk | ifplugd | 22:06 |
| ashleyk | adds 3 minutes to boot time also | 22:06 |
| gnarface | it shouldn't be doing that | 22:07 |
| ashleyk | in my case thats 3 minutes of a completely black screen heh | 22:07 |
| gnarface | could be a problem with your dns or dhcp servers | 22:07 |
| ashleyk | ifplugd adds 3 minutes to boot time in all cases | 22:08 |
| ashleyk | ending with things being killed due to timeouts | 22:08 |
| ashleyk | anyway, i guess this will work with wireless metric 200, and ethernet metric 100 | 22:08 |
| gour | for now, we've made taskwarrior working/syncing... | 22:10 |
| Evilham | gour (#): how do you host your own tw server? | 22:27 |
| Evilham | I haven't gotten around to doing that | 22:28 |
| Evilham | (I didn't mean to ask "how do you" but "do you") | 22:28 |
| tuxd3v | gour:"elogind is required for NM, so it looks i should (maybe) try with wicd instead?" | 22:28 |
| tuxd3v | yeah you should :) | 22:29 |
| fsmithred | ashleyk, there's a patch for /etc/init.d/networking that might help. See this: https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=15493#p15493 | 23:16 |
| ashleyk | fsmithred, thanks | 23:18 |
| ashleyk | i had to blindly guess every combination to find something that "works" | 23:19 |
| ashleyk | i also was confused when wlan0 wouldnt come up at boot | 23:19 |
| tuxd3v | <ashleyk>, I don't hanny boot problems here | 23:22 |
| gnarface | something is still wrong with your setup ashleyk | 23:22 |
| gnarface | is your /etc/hosts unpopulated or something? | 23:23 |
| gnarface | another thing that can trigger hangs at boot is failing to have localhost defined there | 23:23 |
| ashleyk | no, everything is stock | 23:23 |
| gnarface | make sure you have this line in /etc/hosts: 127.0.0.1localhost.localdomainlocalhost | 23:23 |
| tuxd3v | <ashleyk>, it could be related with Persisnt Names features?? | 23:23 |
| tuxd3v | we saw that yesterday, for 2 times.. | 23:24 |
| ashleyk | tuxd3v, no | 23:24 |
| gnarface | i have seen long dhcp hangs caused by a slow/misbehaved wifi router's dhcp features, but it's just as often turned out to be a fundamental problem with dns combined with /etc/hosts missing the proper fallback info (which might be the case even in a stock install, depending on the choices you made) | 23:25 |
| ashleyk | https://pastebin.com/raw/rCQVygxY | 23:25 |
| gnarface | *far more often, i should say | 23:25 |
| ashleyk | yeah i changed the lease time from 1 minute to 2880 minutes and at least the wifi doesnt get a new ip every minute, didnt see if ethernet gets one faster than earlier | 23:26 |
| gnarface | this line might be redundant: iface default inet dhcp | 23:27 |
| gnarface | could be causing eth0 to try to get dhcp twice in a row, i dunno | 23:27 |
| ashleyk | thats there for wireless | 23:28 |
| gnarface | how come you have 3 lines for wireless then? | 23:28 |
| tuxd3v | <ashleyk>, I am testing something for you | 23:28 |
| tuxd3v | hold on | 23:28 |
| gnarface | unless you have 3 wifi devices, that shouldn't be the case | 23:28 |
| ashleyk | it could be redundant i guess... | 23:31 |
| gnarface | look, maybe it's harmless, but when you have problems nobody else is having, we have to start with examining the things you're doing that nobody else is doing. | 23:32 |
| ashleyk | what problem is that | 23:33 |
| gnarface | there's no way in hell a 3 minute boot time is normal | 23:33 |
| gnarface | that's just not how this works | 23:34 |
| ashleyk | that only happens with ifplugd installed | 23:34 |
| ashleyk | try it yourself | 23:34 |
| ashleyk | install it, do dpkg-reconfigure ifplug | 23:34 |
| gnarface | you should be looking at more like 15 seconds. | 23:34 |
| ashleyk | leave the first one blank, and put eth0 in the second | 23:34 |
| ashleyk | it does this on multiple distros | 23:34 |
| ashleyk | its because lennart coded it | 23:35 |
| gnarface | i'm not going to install ifplugd, i don't know what it is and i doubt you actually need it. i think your diagnosis of the problem misses the mark in an important key way, but i'm not going to argue with you if you're satisfied with your own answer | 23:35 |
| ashleyk | it is supposed to help with only one interface being active at a time | 23:36 |
| ashleyk | so if you have a wireless dongle, you can plug it in, but it wont activate unless eth0 is unplugged, likewise plugging in eth0 disabled the dongle | 23:37 |
| ashleyk | but now i have onboard eth0 and wlan0 | 23:37 |
| ashleyk | i was trying to still have only one interface active at a time, in this case, you plug in eth0 and it would disable the wifi | 23:38 |
| ashleyk | but its not so easy to get it to work properly across boots and across all combinations of possibilities | 23:38 |
| ashleyk | so i will have to settle for using metrics | 23:38 |
| gnarface | did you remove "quiet" from your kernel command-line arguments so you could see what it's actually hanging on instead of just guessing while looking at a black screen? | 23:39 |
| ashleyk | no, but i already know, having used ifplugd before :P | 23:39 |
| ashleyk | as soon as you enable it, boot times go up | 23:39 |
| ashleyk | 3 minutes+ | 23:39 |
| ashleyk | its really a piece of shit | 23:40 |
| gnarface | i still think your configuration is missing something important | 23:40 |
| gnarface | it probably does not have to take 3 minutes | 23:40 |
| gnarface | even lennart would lose patience | 23:40 |
| tuxd3v | <ashleyk>, I can only confirm partially | 23:41 |
| tuxd3v | edit /etc/default/grub | 23:42 |
| tuxd3v | GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="net.ifnames=1 biosdevname=0" | 23:42 |
| tuxd3v | update-grub | 23:42 |
| tuxd3v | then reboot | 23:42 |
| tuxd3v | on reboot, with ifconfig loopback deasn't apear | 23:43 |
| tuxd3v | so to show interfaces | 23:43 |
| tuxd3v | ip link show | 23:43 |
| tuxd3v | see the names of the interfaces | 23:43 |
| tuxd3v | vi /etc/network/interfaces | 23:43 |
| tuxd3v | # The primary network interface | 23:44 |
| tuxd3v | allow-hotplug enp1s0 | 23:44 |
| tuxd3v | iface enp1s0 inet dhcp0 | 23:44 |
| tuxd3v | if enp1s0, its your network card dev name | 23:44 |
| tuxd3v | then conect | 23:44 |
| tuxd3v | I tested with wired ethernet and with WIFI | 23:44 |
| ashleyk | gnarface, im sure he abandoned it and never confirmed there was any issue with it | 23:44 |
| tuxd3v | using WPA2 | 23:44 |
| ashleyk | anyway im not using ifplugd | 23:45 |
| ashleyk | everything works, it just takes eth0 a couple minutes to get an ip if i plug eth0 in AFTER booting | 23:45 |
| tuxd3v | BUT, no Hangs on REBOOT | 23:45 |
| ashleyk | takes almost long enough that you think it isnt working | 23:46 |
| tuxd3v | blazing fast to start | 23:46 |
| tuxd3v | or to boot up | 23:46 |
| ashleyk | i have to figure out how to remove quiet mode from rk3399 boot | 23:46 |
| ashleyk | just to have it | 23:47 |
| tuxd3v | Whait that is another problem that you are reporting | 23:47 |
| ashleyk | its not a problem | 23:47 |
| ashleyk | i just didnt modify kernel params | 23:47 |
| tuxd3v | I have both Ethernet and WIFI working | 23:48 |
| tuxd3v | no problems no hanging on REBOOT or BOOT | 23:48 |
| ashleyk | ooh, i can make a boot animation instead of just a logo | 23:49 |
| ashleyk | :D | 23:49 |
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