| redrick | Ask him how Thursday is. I might want to skip it. | 05:33 |
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| redrick | (Wrong window, but no context for you!) | 05:34 |
| Hund | :D | 09:16 |
| redrick | 'Twas a jocular reference to someone west of the International Date Line (who is thus experiencing my tomorrow). | 09:29 |
| rrq | isn't everyone west of IDL, sooner or later? | 09:37 |
| redrick | Perhaps tomorrow I'll be in Ballarat. Could happen. Especially if Thursday is best avoided. | 09:55 |
| * rrq thinking: aah ... nästgårds ... | 10:00 | |
| redrick | My svensk is regrettable. Next door? | 10:03 |
| rrq | :) close enough: "next farm" | 10:22 |
| redrick | Ah, OK, cognate to the norsk 'gård'. | 10:27 |
| redrick | I really ought to learn some Swedish, beyond 'En kaffe, tack', which is a good start but will only get you so far. And I should say Svenska, not svensk. | 10:34 |
| golinux | #debianfork? | 10:35 |
| redrick | On my way. | 10:36 |
| golinux | Thanks | 10:36 |
| redrick | Varsågod. ;-> | 10:37 |
| banisterfiend | i ust installed devuan -- how come i can't use the 'sudo' command? what do i do instead? | 13:50 |
| KatolaZ | banisterfiend: I guess you need to install the "sudo" package | 14:00 |
| watchcat | in the meantime, use su. | 14:01 |
| banisterfiend | KatolaZ this is driving me nuts, i installed the package, added myself to the sudoers group | 14:07 |
| banisterfiend | but i still can't execute a command using sudo, i get "permission denied" | 14:07 |
| DonkeyHotei | did you log out and log back in after adding to group? | 14:08 |
| DonkeyHotei | and make sure the group is enabled in visudo? | 14:09 |
| banisterfiend | yes | 14:10 |
| banisterfiend | ok, now apt get, is trying to read from the installation cdrom and isnt looking up sources online | 14:11 |
| banisterfiend | how do i fix that? | 14:11 |
| KatolaZ | banisterfiend: https://devuan.org/os/etc/apt/sources.list | 14:12 |
| banisterfiend | thanks | 14:13 |
| banisterfiend | this distro is the craziest one i've ever used 😂 | 14:13 |
| KatolaZ | o_O | 14:14 |
| fsmithred | you never used debian? | 14:15 |
| banisterfiend | fsmithred debian at least had sudo installed (iirc) and 'apt install' used online sources rather than looking for a disc, iirc | 14:16 |
| fsmithred | no, it's the same | 14:16 |
| fsmithred | if you use anything other than the netinstall, you get cdrom lines in sources.list | 14:17 |
| KatolaZ | banisterfiend: it's basically the same installer | 14:17 |
| KatolaZ | you selected not to use a network mirror during installation | 14:17 |
| banisterfiend | also i'm gettring: "syntax error ")" expected" when trying to run a *binary* file | 14:19 |
| fsmithred | what are you trying to run? | 14:19 |
| banisterfiend | fsmithred a qt-based appliation, for a vpn | 14:19 |
| fsmithred | something that's in the repo or something from somewhere else? | 14:21 |
| banisterfiend | fsmithred from somewhere else | 14:21 |
| banisterfiend | fsmithred now i'm getting "cannot execute binary file, exec format error" | 14:23 |
| fsmithred | network-manager won't do what you need? | 14:23 |
| banisterfiend | wtf? does devuan have a different executable format or something? | 14:23 |
| fsmithred | no, most of devuan is straight from debian, unchanged | 14:23 |
| fsmithred | maybe the problem is in the binary | 14:24 |
| fsmithred | or maybe it requires different versions of libraries | 14:24 |
| banisterfiend | fsmithred my fault i somehow installed a frikkin 32 bit copy of devuan into my vm :( | 14:31 |
| banisterfiend | i find the installer download page super hard to understand...where can i find a 64 bit intel installer for devuan? | 14:31 |
| DonkeyHotei | which installer did you use? | 14:32 |
| banisterfiend | https://files.devuan.org/?ref=/os/download | 14:33 |
| banisterfiend | the jessie torrent | 14:34 |
| fsmithred | I believe he used d-i because apt asked for a cdrom | 14:34 |
| fsmithred | why jessie? | 14:34 |
| fsmithred | banisterfiend, on the page you linked, click on devuan_jessie and then on installer_isos | 14:36 |
| fsmithred | and you can get isos that were made in 2017 with software that's about to be retired | 14:37 |
| fsmithred | or you could choose devuan_ascii instead, which is the current stable release | 14:37 |
| DonkeyHotei | the jessie torrent had all those isos in it anyway | 14:38 |
| djph | fsmithred: y'know, I totally forgot jessie had isos, and just did install -> change sources -> hey, now i've got jessie! | 15:13 |
| fsmithred | just in time | 15:14 |
| fsmithred | backports has been (or is about to be) moved to archive.debian.org | 15:15 |
| djph | fsmithred: meh, don't need a lot of software - long as I'm still getting security patches I'm good. | 15:17 |
| djph | although I'd better read up on that too, probably have to cut more boxes over soonish | 15:17 |
| fsmithred | I think you'll still get those until 2020 | 15:18 |
| fsmithred | I've got on wheezy I should update | 15:18 |
| fsmithred | (afraid to update) | 15:19 |
| djph | yay, can keep these old boxen around long enough to keep allowing this one other ancient box to keep talking to them | 15:48 |
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