libera/#devuan/ Monday, 2019-05-27

xinomiloenyc, in MATE you can open "Preferred Applications" in control panel and change file manager there (system tab)14:58
xinomiloGyrosGeier, i disagree. we know that google/microsoft and probably other "big" cloud providers, sold data to whoever asked/payed. for a great benefit it would seem...15:05
EvilhamThat's why I'd rather pay some more and stick with small providers I can get to know personally :-)15:15
Evilhamalso because I'll know they are too busy keeping things running to be doing BS :-D15:15
GyrosGeieranalyzing what happens inside a VM is a difficult task15:16
xinomiloone of "those" here. you're absolutely right :)15:16
GyrosGeierhalting problem etc.15:16
xinomilointel helps surveillance : https://cpu.fail/15:21
xinomilonot a security expert, but PoC seems very easy to perform..15:22
telmichWe are actually running / offering VMs on AMD - I did not ever expect this to be such a good choice15:28
HurgotronI'm qute happy that my own virtualization (linux-vserver) is on AMD, too.15:29
enycxinomilo: Ooooo i see and see  'file manager' listed15:30
enycxinomilo: not necesasliralyl the same // catch all cases, as the file i modiede  but thanyok for pointer15:31
GyrosGeierthe usual rule about threat scenarios applies15:34
GyrosGeierif the gain of hacking your box is low compared to the effort, nobody will bother15:34
GyrosGeierif it is scriptable and you can run it against a few million boxes, the effort will be low, so that happens15:36
GyrosGeierbut targeted attacks only happen if there's something to be gained15:36
GyrosGeiera VM that encrypts data it sends to the disk is reasonably non-standard already even if it keeps the key in cleartext in the initrd.gz15:37
GyrosGeiersomeone would actually have to look at the VM and find out where the key is15:37
telmichSpeaking from the ISP role, it is as usual:15:38
telmichas an ISP, you have way too much to do to care about hacking / getting into customer VMs. And if law enforcement comes, I heard the usual thing they do is sniffing traffic, not sophisticated access to the memory of a VM15:39
GyrosGeierthe NSA generally archives the entire thing15:39
GyrosGeierand makes a note to try all keys they come across in the future15:40
GyrosGeierbut they are not in the business of selling your info15:40
Pr0metheusThe last two days I get from apt update: E: The repository 'https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged ceres Release' no longer has a Release file.  Any idea?22:19
fsmithredPr0metheus, you can switch to using packages.devuan.org until the problem is fixed. I'm pretty sure that's working ok.22:29
Pr0metheusfsmithred is it temporary?22:43
fsmithredthe problem is temporary22:43
fsmithredthe switch is not necessarily temporary - both packages.devuan and pkgmaster.devuan should work22:43
fsmithredpackages/auto.mirror was upgraded to amprolla3 awhile ago, and it has been working.22:44
fsmithredPr0metheus, are you on jessie or ascii?22:46
fsmithredoh, ceres22:58
Pr0metheusfsmithred thank you for the info. I think I will wait. Thanks again23:09

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