| premoboss | Hi. Pc dualcore, 4GB ram, graphic card ATH HD5770, last stable verion of Devuan. I use Kicad 5.0.2. PRoblem: wher i do on eeschema zoom in / zoom out, the refresh os VERY slow, it take 3-4 to zoom after i set the command. On the same hardware, same verdsion ok kicad BUT under Windows 7, the zoom acts quite immediately. So, it is not a matter of hardware, is a matter of software. how can i see all is ok under Devuan for graphic? | 00:45 |
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| specing | premoboss: enable/disable acceleration in kicad? | 00:47 |
| premoboss | specing, wait oi controll. | 00:47 |
| premoboss | specing, i cannot find that option, can you point me aut? | 00:50 |
| specing | no idea where it is, I was just offered it in a popup | 00:52 |
| plasma41 | premoboss: I actually own the HD 5770. That GPU doesn't support hardware acceleration w/o a firmware loaded by the kernel. Unfortunately, the only existing firmware for that GPU is non-free. https://h-node.org/videocards/view/en/809/Advanced-Micro-Devices--AMD--nee-ATI-Juniper--Radeon-HD-5700-Series-/1/1/undef/undef/undef/undef/video-card-works/5770 | 00:52 |
| premoboss | that drive me crazy! AAH! | 00:53 |
| premoboss | plasma41, the same for HD5780, i suppose. I own that also. | 00:54 |
| premoboss | so, or i change videocard or i istall non.-free driver :-/ | 00:54 |
| plasma41 | premoboss: Those are your options, yes. https://libregamewiki.org/3D_hardware_acceleration | 00:57 |
| plasma41 | I really hope when Intel releases their first discrete GPUs next year that they will be fully functional using exclusively free software. | 00:58 |
| premoboss | plasma41, dmesg report me that are loaded some firmware JUNIPER_pfp.bin and others. i must dig looking for non-free firmware | 00:59 |
| specing | plasma41: I doubt that, current intel iGPUs require proprietary firmware | 01:00 |
| specing | Will have to wait for IBM to start making GPUs :) | 01:00 |
| plasma41 | specing: That would be nice. | 01:01 |
| plasma41 | I really want a Raptor Blackbird, but I don't have the discretionary income atm. | 01:03 |
| premoboss | i installed firmware-linux-nonfree | 01:04 |
| specing | plasma41: :) | 01:10 |
| specing | Me too | 01:11 |
| specing | I have the money, but no use for it | 01:11 |
| DonkeyHotei | plasma41: intel did have discrete GPUs in the past, the i7xx series | 01:11 |
| premoboss | i installed firmware-linux-nonfree and reboot, but kicad zoom speed does not increment. | 01:16 |
| gnarface | premoboss: make sure you also have mesa installed | 01:59 |
| gnarface | and you may need to make some xorg.conf customizations to force the right driver to load | 02:00 |
| premoboss | gnarface, i check | 02:00 |
| gnarface | but check on mesa first | 02:00 |
| gnarface | i am not sure you installed the right firmware package either | 02:01 |
| gnarface | there is also firmware-amd-graphics in non-free | 02:02 |
| premoboss | what firmware you think about, gnarface ? | 02:02 |
| gnarface | firmware-linux-free and firmware-amd-graphics both come to mind | 02:02 |
| premoboss | fiboth are installed | 02:03 |
| premoboss | both .deb are installed | 02:03 |
| gnarface | ok, if you're still missing any firmware, you should see complaints about them in the output of dmesg at boot time | 02:03 |
| gnarface | if you also installed mesa, then reboot and check that as well as the Xorg.0.log but maybe that's all that was missing and it will work now | 02:04 |
| premoboss | i istalled, go for reboot and back here, see you later | 02:04 |
| premoboss | gnarface, i rebooted, but no progress. kicad still slow. | 02:10 |
| premoboss | dmesg report that 4 files radeon/JUNIPER_xxx.bin and radeon/CYPRESS_uvd.bin are loaded. | 02:12 |
| premoboss | i installed also mesa-opencl-icd:amd64 mesa-utils mesa-utils-extra mesa-va-drivers:amd64 mesa-vdpau-drivers:amd64 mesa-vulkan-drivers | 02:16 |
| gnarface | premoboss: can you paste your xorg log to paste.debian.net? | 02:48 |
| gnarface | sorry, had to step away for a bit there | 02:49 |
| premoboss | yes | 02:49 |
| premoboss | wait | 02:49 |
| premoboss | http://paste.debian.net/1086925/ | 02:50 |
| gnarface | premoboss: looks like it's working. i can't be sure what's wrong. | 02:55 |
| gnarface | what happens if you run this? "vblank_mode=0 glxgears" | 02:55 |
| gnarface | i'm not familiar with kicad but maybe something else is slowing it down now. maybe we fixed the opengl problem but maybe there's still another. | 03:01 |
| premoboss | a gearbox appear an the 3 weels run smooth | 03:04 |
| premoboss | i start to think is somethin gelated to kica, not related to the OS or GPU driver | 03:05 |
| gnarface | what type of framerates do you get out of glxgears? | 03:06 |
| gnarface | it should be printing to the console? | 03:06 |
| premoboss | 1579 | 03:07 |
| gnarface | depending on your CPU it could be a power management issue if you're using the wrong cpu frequency governor | 03:07 |
| gnarface | 1579 puts it right in the range i can't be sure of that either | 03:07 |
| gnarface | i'm not familiar enough with the performance of that GPU | 03:07 |
| premoboss | ok | 03:08 |
| gnarface | what do you see as the contents of this file? /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor | 03:08 |
| premoboss | ondemand | 03:09 |
| gnarface | if it was a lot lower than 1579 i would be sure that OpenGL acceleration still was not working. if it was very much higher than 1579 i would be sure it is working. 1579 could be either. | 03:09 |
| gnarface | there should be a /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu# directory for each CPU core | 03:10 |
| premoboss | night time here, gotta sleep | 03:11 |
| gnarface | you can change the scaling_governor property to the fast one by changing the contents of all those files to "performance" | 03:11 |
| gnarface | that might speed up kicad | 03:11 |
| gnarface | if it does, you can probably adjust ondemand to behave better for it | 03:12 |
| gnarface | anyway, good luck, let me know if you find out anything else | 03:12 |
| gnarface | maybe kicad has some useful log output. maybe it needs a different version of mesa | 03:12 |
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