Beerbelott | Hello, are there time requirements for mirrors to be up-to-date? | 08:26 |
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Beerbelott | I see security/main packages list has been updated at "2019-09-25 05:19" on some mirrors but I get some 404 on another | 08:28 |
Beerbelott | http://mirrors.dotsrc.org/debian-security/pool/updates/main/l/linux/linux-headers-4.9.0-11-amd64_4.9.189-3+deb9u1_amd64.deb 404 Not Found [IP: 2001:878:346::116 80] | 08:28 |
Beerbelott | That is, there is at least 3h time delta between some mirrors | 08:29 |
Beerbelott | That kind of defeats the purpose of a DNS pool | 08:29 |
onefang | mirrors.dotsrc.org is supposed too update every 30 minutes according to the mirror list. Most of the mirrors list 30 minute updates. Only a few list 3 hour updates. | 08:36 |
onefang | s/too/to/ | 08:36 |
onefang | Hmm, the mirror walkthrough says "no more than once per hour", but we did change to 30 minutes some time ago. | 08:38 |
felhasznalo | hi guys | 08:43 |
felhasznalo | is there a binary non-systemd distro that isn't slackware or devuan? | 08:43 |
omnio | felhasznalo, https://distrowatch.com/search.php?defaultinit=Not+systemd | 08:48 |
omnio | not all are binary though | 08:48 |
felhasznalo | seems like devuan is still the only real choice | 08:53 |
Beerbelott | onefang: Well. There might have bee na hiccup then :) | 09:25 |
onefang | It's always possible. | 09:25 |
onefang | There's a new kernel out today, I'll have to reboot my mirror later today, if the timing is wrong, might be an hour between mirror updates for me. | 09:26 |
Beerbelott | all in all, the problem is stil lthere for that mirror | 09:26 |
Beerbelott | 1h later | 09:27 |
Beerbelott | If you note, the URL I provided is for that precise kernel update package :p | 09:27 |
onefang | I just updated by desktop to that kernel, using my own mirror. Still got some things to do before I can reboot it. | 09:29 |
Beerbelott | I would like to avoid resorting to manually forcing of a specific repo, but so far the mirror chosen from the deb.devuan.org consistently sends me over to mirrors.dotsrc.org | 09:30 |
Beerbelott | from the deb.devuan.org DNS pool* | 09:30 |
onefang | From my desktop I use my own mirror, in an "eating my own dogfood" way. | 09:31 |
onefang | Time to reboot my desktop into that new kernel. BRB | 09:34 |
onefang | It worked. B-) | 09:42 |
Beerbelott | I don't understand what "eating you own dogfood" has anything to do with the deb.devuan.org DNS pool not being consistent, at least because of mirrors.dotsrc.org? | 09:44 |
Beerbelott | Alright, I switched back to pkgmaster. | 09:47 |
onefang | I'm eating MY own dog food, using my own mirror. | 09:51 |
DRWhite | Howdy folks | 11:50 |
chomwitt | isnt package 'less' in devuan ascii ? | 13:18 |
Hurgotron | here it is. | 13:19 |
chomwitt | so maybe i have an issue with my sources.list | 13:23 |
chomwitt | i dont know what to put in my sources.list | 13:24 |
chomwitt | what is with the 'merged' word | 13:24 |
Hurgotron | mine, for example: | 13:25 |
Hurgotron | deb http://de.deb.devuan.org/merged ascii main contrib | 13:25 |
Hurgotron | deb http://de.deb.devuan.org/merged ascii-security main contrib | 13:25 |
Hurgotron | deb http://de.deb.devuan.org/merged ascii-updates main contrib | 13:25 |
fsmithred | https://devuan.org/os/ | 13:26 |
fsmithred | don't bother with the country codes. They don't do anything now. | 13:26 |
onefang | "merged" is the merged Devuan and Debian packages. | 13:28 |
chomwitt | i see. | 13:28 |
chomwitt | anyway i've set up a minimal virtual server with an ascii image of theirs and try with : deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged ascii main | 13:29 |
fsmithred | that should work | 13:30 |
fsmithred | you might not have gotten less in the install, but it should be in the repo | 13:30 |
chomwitt | but as soon as i give : apt-get update my systems get stack in O% processing for minutes | 13:30 |
fsmithred | how did you do the install? | 13:31 |
chomwitt | i used a netint image that i mounted to my vps and then reboot, but i had to edit by self /etc/interfaces | 13:35 |
chomwitt | anyway my vps has internet, dns works ok | 13:35 |
chomwitt | but my devuan installation since network wasnt congigured was i guess minimal | 13:36 |
fsmithred | yeah, no connection would cause that problem. | 13:36 |
fsmithred | I don't know what else would. | 13:36 |
chomwitt | now apt-get gives the method driver /usr/lib/apt/methods/https could not be found is package apt-transport-https installed ? | 13:37 |
fsmithred | and you don't have https in sources.list? Anything in sources.list.d/ ? | 13:38 |
chomwitt | fsmithred: strangely the issue was with the gateway ip in the installation setup. it woudnt be accepted , by the same ip worked ok after i add it to /etc/interfaces | 13:39 |
fsmithred | ah, ok | 13:39 |
chomwitt | nop | 13:40 |
chomwitt | no https | 13:40 |
chomwitt | ls | 13:40 |
chomwitt | sorry | 13:40 |
fsmithred | but it's working now? | 13:40 |
chomwitt | the internet yes | 13:41 |
chomwitt | in my virtual server | 13:41 |
chomwitt | in the network config phase of the instalation , after giving the gateway ip i was getting an error about default route not configured | 13:43 |
chomwitt | so i bypassed that and after the minimum install i edit /etc/interfaces | 13:43 |
onefang | Do you have anything in /etc/apt/sources.list.d? | 13:46 |
fsmithred | and check /etc/resolv.conf | 13:48 |
chomwitt | a devuan,list with commented entris | 13:48 |
chomwitt | entries | 13:48 |
fsmithred | ok | 13:48 |
chomwitt | nameservers look ok | 13:49 |
onefang | Your sources.lst has http, but apt is trying to use https, which says apt-transport-https installed, but is missing bits. Seems that system is a bit confused. | 13:49 |
fsmithred | that's a service, isn't it? | 13:50 |
fsmithred | I thnk you can turn it off | 13:50 |
chomwitt | service | 13:50 |
chomwitt | ? | 13:50 |
onefang | It's a transport for apt, not installed by default, usually. | 13:50 |
fsmithred | look for /etc/init.d/https or something like that | 13:50 |
onefang | Not a service. | 13:51 |
fsmithred | nope. Maybe I'm thinking of tor | 13:52 |
fsmithred | and having apt-transport-https installed doesn't cause a problem. I just tried it. | 13:53 |
onefang | Apt has a tor transport as well. Devuan has a tor package mirror. Apt transports are not services. | 13:53 |
chomwitt | maybe clear the aptget cache, cause some hours ago i made a mispelling https but i corrected | 13:53 |
onefang | Yes, I have it installed to. But it shouldn't be causing trouble at all if there's no https sources. | 13:53 |
fsmithred | yeah, update the cache again | 13:54 |
fsmithred | apt update | 13:54 |
fsmithred | sorry, I'm not awake | 13:56 |
onefang | Fire alarm in the next room just went off. I'M AWAKE! | 13:57 |
fsmithred | yikes | 13:57 |
onefang | Neighbour was burning her chops. No panic. | 13:57 |
Hurgotron | better than coffee | 13:57 |
fsmithred | whew | 13:57 |
fsmithred | not as enjoyable | 13:58 |
onefang | I told her to turn on her ceiling fan and open her windows. Fire alarm has stopped. Nothing to see here. Move along. | 13:59 |
chomwitt | i think the merged line triggers the https | 14:12 |
chomwitt | removing it the https error goes | 14:12 |
onefang | Hmmm, maybe you are being redirected to a HTTPS server for the Debian packages? Most mirrors only have the Devuan packages, and redirect you to Debians mirrors for the Debian packages. | 14:15 |
chomwitt | isnt that the meaning of the merged keyword ? | 14:16 |
chomwitt | to redirect ? | 14:17 |
chomwitt | ok so ill try to change the mirror | 14:17 |
onefang | It's up to the specific mirror whether or not to redirect. If it's a Devuan mirror that also mirrors Debian, then it'll handle all packages by itself. | 14:18 |
onefang | Where is your server? | 14:18 |
hans_ | sooo, any thoughts on adopting systemd in devuan ? | 15:16 |
Hurgotron | :P | 15:16 |
telst4r | umm.. why? | 15:17 |
hans_ | well plenty of arguments here https://suckless.org/sucks/systemd/ | 15:17 |
hans_ | nvm just kidding, | 15:18 |
hans_ | that comma was a typo btw | 15:18 |
yeti | Error 1066 (a.k.a. 400+666) - off topic :-P | 15:20 |
glats | hi everyone! theres a repo equivalent for deb-multimedia for devuan? | 16:18 |
onefang | Not that I know of. I just use deb-multimedia directly, though others will say that's a bad idea. It works fine for me. | 16:21 |
glats | onefang: yeah. actually i found this saying that what you said | 16:21 |
glats | https://qgqlochekone.blogspot.com/2017/07/debian-vs-devuan-complete-guide-to.html | 16:21 |
onefang | That's somewhat out of date. | 16:24 |
onefang | Lots of it is wrong to, but that's likely coz it seemed to have been written back when Devuan was fairly new. | 16:26 |
glats | yeah | 16:28 |
fsmithred | I think one of the jessie beta isos had deb-multimedia enabled by default. We undid that in a hurry. | 16:44 |
fsmithred | if you use that repo, be selective | 16:44 |
buZz | hmmm, it seems hibernation on my x230 breaks my wifi :( | 17:01 |
buZz | on beowulf | 17:01 |
glats | fsmithred: aah | 17:10 |
glats | good to know | 17:10 |
glats | where can i find that iso | 17:11 |
onefang | Since it was a beta, I suspect it's no longer available. | 17:11 |
onefang | There's no Jessie beta ISOs on my ISO server. | 17:13 |
james1138 | Question about the Devuan Beowulf ISO. Whenever it is finished - could we get some notification that it shall be on the Devuan website to download?? | 17:20 |
buZz | james1138: it'll be in /topic here | 17:21 |
onefang | Every one keeps asking when Beowulf will get released, I suspect it'll be announced here. | 17:21 |
james1138 | Okay. Thanx. I just did not want to keep asking like some 6-yr old "it is here yet... " 8-) | 17:22 |
buZz | feel free to hilight me if ppl havent added it yet | 17:22 |
buZz | (after release) | 17:22 |
fsmithred | we'll be screaming the news from rooftops | 17:25 |
onefang | lol | 17:25 |
* yeti . o O ( < Aaare we there yet? >---- _@o _@o _@o ) | 17:33 | |
yeti | archive org doesnt have jessie bata neither... | 17:34 |
fsmithred | I'm glad to hear that. | 17:35 |
yeti | new myths: the internet never forgets... | 17:37 |
yeti | :-Þ | 17:37 |
yeti | the internet only forgets exacly what YOU are looking for | 17:38 |
fsmithred | and remembers what you hope it forgot | 17:44 |
avbox | What themes do you use in your desktop? Does anybody know simple svg based themes? | 19:34 |
yeti | xterm: black background. desktop: IDK. | 20:02 |
yeti | and IDC. | 20:02 |
jonadab | All foreground colors are #FFE6BC; all background colors are #294D4A; you can look at this for hours and not go snowblind. | 20:04 |
buZz | jonadab: in coolretroterm? :D | 20:14 |
buZz | https://github.com/Swordfish90/cool-retro-term | 20:14 |
buZz | not in devuan it seems , boo :) | 20:15 |
jonadab | buZz: No, I am trying to make things _easier_ on my eyes. So I _don't_ get headaches. | 20:29 |
gnarface | i just use enlightenment defaults and dark gtk themes. nintendo sends me fresh wallpapers. | 20:31 |
buZz | :D | 20:34 |
Akuli | the ubuntu 14.04 packages might work on devuan, but i would first try it out in a virtual machine in case everything blows up | 20:45 |
Hurgotron | dpkg package management is usually sufficiently stable. | 20:48 |
Akuli | compiling from source should also work on devuan | 20:48 |
Akuli | lol this terminal emulator | 20:49 |
glats | exit | 21:15 |
glats | oops | 21:15 |
glats | sorry | 21:15 |
tom_work | How can I control /proc/acpi/ibm/led from a non-superuser? Is there a way to persistently assign a group and group rw permissions to this file? | 21:28 |
tom_work | Is there aready a group for this purpose or do I need to create a 'indicators' group? | 21:29 |
specing | tom_work: udev | 21:36 |
specing | ah no, not udev | 21:36 |
specing | set up sudo to allow access to it from non-superuser accounts | 21:36 |
gnarface | tom_work: there seems to be a few ways to do it. from what i am finding, it looks like polkit is an option if you're using it. some people just suggest running chmod from /etc/rc.local though | 21:45 |
gnarface | sudo would work too | 21:46 |
gnarface | it kinda depends on how much vulnerability you're willing to add | 21:46 |
gnarface | there might be some kernel module option or command-line parameter that you can use to override the default permissions on this file too, i don't know | 21:47 |
tom_work | gnarface, what about eudev? | 21:51 |
tom_work | gnarface, I just want to allow users in the 'indicator' group to write to /proc/acpi/ibm/led | 21:52 |
gnarface | tom_work: normally udev or eudev would be the place you'd look to set default permissions on stuff in /dev/ i just don't think it will also apply to stuff in /sys/ or /proc/ but it is worth looking there too i suppose | 21:53 |
free_rabbit | hello people | 21:54 |
gnarface | hello | 21:54 |
gnarface | tom_work: but if you can figure out what kernel module creates it, run /sbin/modinfo on that and see if any of the params look like they're about defining permissions - there is some precedent for that | 21:55 |
free_rabbit | sct isnt working for me, i have used it under debian before where it has worked. got no error or something.. any suggestions? | 21:56 |
tom_work | k | 21:57 |
free_rabbit | this sct if anyone not knowing it: https://packages.debian.org/buster/sct | 22:01 |
gnarface | free_rabbit: no errors at all? not even in dmesg or the Xorg log? | 22:11 |
golinux | You will know when Beowulf is released because the website will go to the default desktop colors . . . very dark and reddish | 22:12 |
gnarface | free_rabbit: dunno but odds generally are on some permissions issue. systemd grants blanket read+write+execute on everything for locally logged-in users. | 22:12 |
free_rabbit | gnarface: yes no errors, no messages... | 22:14 |
gnarface | free_rabbit: sorry i don't use it, that's my only advice. check the permissions and ownership on it and stuff it needs. | 22:14 |
free_rabbit | ok but i used it on debian without systemd, or removed systemd | 22:14 |
gnarface | really? | 22:15 |
free_rabbit | yes | 22:15 |
gnarface | hmmm. dunno then | 22:15 |
gnarface | i'd still suggest to double-check the permissions | 22:15 |
free_rabbit | gnarface: how 2 do that? | 22:16 |
free_rabbit | ls it? | 22:17 |
gnarface | ls -l | 22:17 |
gnarface | you can see what it is running as with "ps aux --forest" | 22:17 |
free_rabbit | yeah ive done that it is rwx rx rx | 22:17 |
gnarface | you can "ls -l" the files to check who they're owned by | 22:17 |
gnarface | does it run? | 22:17 |
free_rabbit | no | 22:17 |
gnarface | so it exits when you run it? | 22:17 |
free_rabbit | wait i CAN run it but it doesn nothing... | 22:18 |
free_rabbit | *as normal user | 22:18 |
gnarface | well run it as root and make sure it stays in the output of "ps aux" | 22:18 |
free_rabbit | oh no.. i will not startx as root... | 22:18 |
gnarface | sct is not a stand-alone daemon? | 22:19 |
free_rabbit | what do u mean by that? | 22:19 |
gnarface | keep in mind that with systemd you were effectively running everything as root anyway | 22:19 |
free_rabbit | really? o_0 what a mess... | 22:19 |
gnarface | keep in mind i don't use sct | 22:20 |
free_rabbit | yeah =) | 22:20 |
gnarface | is there a /usr/share/doc/sct/ directory? | 22:20 |
free_rabbit | yes and the readme is the same as on the github site | 22:20 |
free_rabbit | https://github.com/Tookmund/setcolortemperature | 22:21 |
free_rabbit | it is of course a very tiny program and pretty easy to use, u just have 2 run "sct TEMPERATURE" where TEMPERATUR is something between 1000 and 10000 | 22:22 |
gnarface | hmmm, it says it uses xrandr | 22:22 |
free_rabbit | yes and xrandr is installed | 22:22 |
gnarface | so it should have access to everything xrandr does | 22:22 |
gnarface | are you able to make xrandr change stuff about the screen layout? | 22:23 |
gnarface | this could still be ultimately a permissions issue | 22:23 |
free_rabbit | yes i need to, because im using a laptop with an external screen | 22:23 |
free_rabbit | i only need xrand for that ^^ | 22:23 |
free_rabbit | *xrandr | 22:24 |
fsmithred | I just installed sct on ascii, and it appears to work. 5800 is a little redder than the default | 22:30 |
free_rabbit | hu.. o_0 | 22:30 |
free_rabbit | <=( | 22:30 |
fsmithred | what are you running for desktop? | 22:30 |
free_rabbit | err you mean desktop enviroment? | 22:31 |
fsmithred | yes | 22:31 |
free_rabbit | none iam using a mionimal xserver with dwm tilling | 22:31 |
free_rabbit | iam running startx to run xserver | 22:31 |
free_rabbit | from tty | 22:32 |
free_rabbit | hi fsmithred btw ^^ | 22:32 |
fsmithred | hi | 22:32 |
free_rabbit | this is dwm: https://packages.debian.org/buster/dwm | 22:32 |
fsmithred | I wouldn't expect that you need any more then an xserver for it to work, but I could be wrong. | 22:33 |
gnarface | is it possible you might have added some 3rd party packages to your install, or accidentally pulled in some debian ones? | 22:33 |
fsmithred | anyway, gotta go | 22:33 |
gnarface | could be a trivial version mis-match or something | 22:33 |
free_rabbit | gnarface: the only tpp are tor browser bundle, firefox and youtube-dl (direct downloads) | 22:35 |
free_rabbit | and libdvdcss2 | 22:36 |
gnarface | so, if you downloaded them from a 3rd party repo like debian's though, you might have accidentally pulled in the wrong dependencies along with them | 22:36 |
free_rabbit | but i got them all like this on debian too | 22:36 |
free_rabbit | gnarface: what do you mean? | 22:36 |
free_rabbit | no not a repo in sources list | 22:37 |
free_rabbit | i download and compilied or just saves them | 22:37 |
gnarface | ok | 22:37 |
free_rabbit | sources list is only devuan main | 22:37 |
free_rabbit | (and linux-libre but thats only kernels) | 22:38 |
gnarface | this is ascii you said, or beowulf? | 22:39 |
free_rabbit | ascii | 22:39 |
free_rabbit | or stable | 22:39 |
gnarface | in your sources.list are you calling it "ascii" or "stable" ? | 22:40 |
gnarface | it matters right now, because devuan is out of sync with debian, so stable/testing/unstable are mislabeled | 22:40 |
free_rabbit | fisrt ascii but a few days ago i changed it to stable so it will be automatically change to beowulf when beowulf becomes stable, but i have tried sct before, with the same result... | 22:41 |
gnarface | if you didn't know that you might have accidentally mixed packages from different release versions | 22:41 |
gnarface | that could be what is causing this | 22:41 |
gnarface | you could have half ascii stuff and half beowulf stuff | 22:42 |
free_rabbit | no like i said i have tried it before with ascii | 22:42 |
free_rabbit | what do you mena ascii = stable | 22:42 |
free_rabbit | *mean | 22:42 |
gnarface | ok, but just to be clear, changing it to stable would probably have immediately started it upgrading to beowulf | 22:42 |
free_rabbit | yeah i know | 22:42 |
gnarface | ascii is currently devuan stable but debian is in charge of which release "stable" points to, and they're already past the release ascii corresponded to | 22:43 |
gnarface | this happened as soon as debian buster or bullseye or whatever it is now went stable (whichever one corresponds to beowulf) | 22:44 |
free_rabbit | er.. sorry could say that again in simply english please ^^ | 22:44 |
free_rabbit | the translation doenst make sense... | 22:44 |
free_rabbit | *doesnt | 22:44 |
free_rabbit | sorry... | 22:46 |
gnarface | debian hosed us. you used "stable" too early. | 22:46 |
free_rabbit | why? | 22:47 |
gnarface | debian had already pointed it to beowulf | 22:47 |
free_rabbit | ... so i have beowulf packages now? | 22:48 |
gnarface | probably a few at least. that is my new hypothesis for why yours isn't working and fsmithered's is, anyway. | 22:48 |
free_rabbit | wtf debian!?! | 22:48 |
free_rabbit | but wait as i said two times before: i have tried sct BEFORE i changed ascii to stable in my sources list | 22:49 |
free_rabbit | i first tested it when i was changing from debian to devuan over a year ago | 22:50 |
free_rabbit | then i forgot to figure out why it wasnt working | 22:51 |
free_rabbit | i have now changed stable back to ascii is that ok or will it make problems now? | 22:52 |
free_rabbit | apt update;apt upgrade doesnt say that anything is wrong... | 22:52 |
gnarface | it depends on how much of a mess it has already made | 22:52 |
free_rabbit | how to figure that out? | 22:53 |
gnarface | https://pkginfo.devuan.org/ | 22:53 |
gnarface | you could start checking some package versions | 22:53 |
gnarface | figure out if you have beowulf stuff | 22:53 |
free_rabbit | i only remember i devuan package was upgraded since ive done that | 22:53 |
free_rabbit | and some new kernels whre installed, but they are comming from linux-libre only | 22:54 |
gnarface | you're sure it was only one beowulf package? you should be able to change your sources.list back to ascii then and remove then reinstall that package | 22:54 |
gnarface | maybe it didn't work previously because when you upgraded from debian you either forgot to also "apt-get dist-upgrade" or maybe you had used some debian stretch-backports packages that held back devuan patched ones? | 22:55 |
gnarface | had you tested this with a stock kernel or only ever the linux-libre one? | 22:56 |
free_rabbit | all packages are from stable | 22:57 |
free_rabbit | form ascii | 22:57 |
free_rabbit | ^^ sorry | 22:57 |
hightower2 | Hey if I have UEFI system partition, do I still need unencrypted /boot if I want to encrypt other partitions or not? | 22:58 |
free_rabbit | i did not upgraded from debian | 22:58 |
hightower2 | (talking about netinst installer, not refracta) | 22:58 |
free_rabbit | my systems are alwways fresh new installs ;) | 22:58 |
free_rabbit | gnarface: yes it wasnt running with the stock kernel too - ive changed to linux-libre a few months ago | 22:59 |
gnarface | free_rabbit: what about your video driver? could you have been using a different video card driver in debian before? | 23:00 |
gnarface | video drivers don't all have equal support for xrandr commands | 23:00 |
gnarface | and some hardware is supported by multiple drivers | 23:00 |
free_rabbit | gnarface: ive checked by the packages with the last apt upgrades listed in /var/log/apt/history.log they are all ascii | 23:00 |
gnarface | ok | 23:01 |
free_rabbit | gnarface: no other videodriver it is the same hardware and the same minimal xserver | 23:01 |
gnarface | hightower2: i don't know much about this but someone the other day was saying it is possible with libreboot | 23:01 |
gnarface | hightower2: (to also encrypt /boot) | 23:02 |
free_rabbit | gnarface: yeah that was me ;) | 23:02 |
gnarface | ah, right | 23:03 |
free_rabbit | hightower2: you can fde (full disk encryption) with librebotted devices | 23:03 |
free_rabbit | *librebooted | 23:03 |
hightower2 | Also, is something wonky with current ascii netinst installer? I noticed 3 things: 1) it didn't ask me to select region, 2) "configure clock" just returned me to the menu without offering timezone selection, and 3) in the partitioning, when I created encrypted volumes upon exit from that menu it didn't ask me to set password for encryption; I had to re-enter and exit the menu to trigger the prompt to appear and encrypted device to become ac | 23:04 |
hightower2 | tive | 23:04 |
free_rabbit | hightower2: but only if the storage the os is running on is connected via sata (so a hdd or ssd) | 23:04 |
free_rabbit | hightower2: alternatively you can set the boot partition to another device (4ex. a portable usb stick, u dont need libreboot for that) | 23:05 |
free_rabbit | hightower2: about your netinstaller: sounds scary... o_0 | 23:06 |
gnarface | hightower2: there's all kinds of weird shit wrong with it and most of it is inherited from Debian, but the first two issues might be just because you forgot to select expert mode | 23:07 |
hightower2 | also near the end it asked me something about charset to use on the console, with first prompt being UTF8 and the second was about "guess something" | 23:07 |
hightower2 | gnarface, no I always use expert mode, and did so now too | 23:07 |
gnarface | hmmm. that is weird | 23:08 |
hightower2 | also the archive mirror chooser menu is different | 23:08 |
hightower2 | everything is unusual | 23:08 |
gnarface | hightower2: perhaps it sees a previous partial install it is trying to resume? | 23:08 |
free_rabbit | hightower2: ... sounds like a fake netinstaller X) | 23:08 |
hightower2 | no it's a clean disk | 23:08 |
free_rabbit | hightower2: did you verified the download? | 23:09 |
gnarface | heh hightower2 yea uh, you checksummed it right? | 23:09 |
hightower2 | well,... I downloaded https://mirror.leaseweb.com/devuan/devuan_ascii/installer-iso/devuan_ascii_2.0.0_amd64_netinst.iso | 23:09 |
free_rabbit | hightower2: ok but did you verified it using the checksums? | 23:10 |
free_rabbit | https://mirror.leaseweb.com/devuan/devuan_ascii/installer-iso/SHA256SUMS | 23:10 |
hightower2 | no I will now | 23:10 |
free_rabbit | hightower2: ok... you will need to import the devuan key to your keyring first | 23:11 |
hightower2 | sum is OK | 23:11 |
free_rabbit | and check the cheksum before checking the iso with the cheksum | 23:11 |
free_rabbit | (chekedy checkedy ceck) | 23:11 |
hightower2 | the sum I am comparing to is | 23:11 |
free_rabbit | ^^ | 23:11 |
hightower2 | c16bebdeecdf452188ae4bb823cd5f1c0d2ed3a7a568332508943ce16f7e5c71 | 23:11 |
hightower2 | lol now I rebooted the installer, went into expert, the first option was "Choose language" and when I chose it it offered language choice list and then it just disappeared and got me back to the main menu | 23:13 |
gnarface | ?? is it possible you are experiencing keyboard failure?? | 23:14 |
hightower2 | I am getting some segfaults | 23:14 |
hightower2 | as visible in console 4 | 23:14 |
free_rabbit | hightower2: wich netinstaller are u using 32 or 64 | 23:14 |
gnarface | uh oh | 23:14 |
hightower2 | 64 | 23:14 |
gnarface | could be bad RAM | 23:14 |
gnarface | hightower2: better run memtest on it. there should be a copy on that installer... | 23:14 |
hightower2 | well, it's a laptop that worked just fine for years, I just wanted to reinstall it | 23:14 |
gnarface | well memtest will only check the system ram | 23:15 |
hightower2 | but well... end of the day so, gonna make another attempt tomorrow. Thanks for the discussion/help folks | 23:15 |
gnarface | video ram goes bad in laptops a lot too | 23:15 |
gnarface | good luck hightower2 | 23:15 |
free_rabbit | ive checked the iso too it is ok | 23:16 |
free_rabbit | oh bad ram? | 23:16 |
free_rabbit | hightower2: yw =) | 23:17 |
gnarface | segfaults can mean bad ram yea | 23:17 |
free_rabbit | gnarface: so hightower2 need to change it? | 23:17 |
gnarface | well, maybe. he needs to run some tests first. | 23:17 |
free_rabbit | ok | 23:18 |
free_rabbit | gnarface: thx btw. for the wink with that stable thing. so it is always better to write the name of the devuan version in sources list istead of stable or something? | 23:23 |
gnarface | free_rabbit: yes, and that has always been Debian's advice as well, from before Devuan existed | 23:29 |
free_rabbit | ok ive heard the first time ^^ | 23:30 |
free_rabbit | got another problem: on anotehr devuan device the screen turns off when idle 15 minutes or so. it is a different setup then mine (beginner system with several gui programs). is there a possibilitz to handle this? ive tried to use mate-power-manager but it does nothing to the system, no matter what i do in it... | 23:47 |
free_rabbit | the most problem is when watching videos in vlc with it. vlc has an option to disable screensaver, but first there is no screensaver and second it also does not affect the system... | 23:48 |
buZz | free_rabbit: whats the question? | 23:50 |
buZz | you want the screen to turn off? or not? | 23:50 |
gnarface | free_rabbit: you can control the screen blanking at a low level with xset | 23:50 |
gnarface | free_rabbit: this will turn it off for example: xset dpms 0 0 0 | 23:51 |
gnarface | free_rabbit: (turn off screen blanking, not turn off the display) | 23:51 |
buZz | maybe 'xset s off' or 'xset -dpms' | 23:51 |
buZz | 'xset q' for current config | 23:51 |
gnarface | there's a few different syntax formats according to the man page but i've had isolated parsing bugs over the years with every format except the one that goes "xset dpms [suspend] [standby] [off]" | 23:52 |
buZz | heh yeah | 23:52 |
buZz | i typically just use 'xset dpms force off' from a shellscript when i'm going to bed ;) | 23:52 |
gnarface | yea | 23:53 |
gnarface | free_rabbit: check the xset man page for details | 23:53 |
free_rabbit | yes i think i have tried that with xset and it doesnt worked.. but i will try it again to be sure of that. need to boot that system first... | 23:54 |
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