libera/#devuan/ Friday, 2019-11-01

yetiI refused to pip so far00:02
yetiand linuxbrew or is it homebrew?00:04
yetiit feels simply wrong00:04
HeadlessHorsemanDang, tinysshd is blacklisted too?00:04
yeti  Depends: libc600:06
yetiwhy?00:06
yetibeowulf00:07
yetino... in buster it depends only on libc too00:07
yetias apt-cache claims00:07
Jjp137if you're on ascii, it doesn't seem to be on ascii00:08
yetithen try to compile the deb-src from beowulf00:08
golinuxSeems it is banned in "unstable" https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/bannedpackages.txt00:08
yetiok.. thanks00:08
HeadlessHorsemanThere's some amusing things on that list. :/00:09
golinuxYou can thank systemd creep00:09
tuxd3vgolinux: is there any greetings message for Devuan?00:16
tuxd3vI was thinking in add a greetings message same way that Armbian do, for arm sbc'c00:16
tuxd3vWelcome00:17
tuxd3v       DEVUANarm00:17
tuxd3vsomething that feels nice :)00:17
tuxd3vDeVUANarm -> could be DEVU[A]N[arm, with A and arm in the same color00:18
tuxd3vDEVUANrm00:19
tuxd3vI don't know something nice :)00:19
MinceRdevuan00:23
MinceR    r00:23
MinceR    m00:23
buZzDEVUARM00:29
buZzDEVUARMN ?00:29
Peregrinus_what about DEVUArmN?00:30
fsmithredreplace the swoosh D with a couple of arms holding hands to make the D shape.00:31
* fsmithred ducks00:31
buZzplz no :P00:37
* furrywolf replaces it with something from buzz's favorite site, e621.net.00:38
sadsnorkhttps://i.ibb.co/4Jk0czq/devuanarm.png00:39
buZzfurrywolf: ? monoglytomate?00:39
buZzor however you write it00:40
MinceRsodium glutamate00:40
buZzhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monosodium_glutamate00:40
buZzright00:40
MinceRor MSG, if you prefer00:40
MinceRwhat's a DEVUArm?00:40
buZzwhy would E621 be my fav furrywolf ? because i like to cook?00:40
buZzMinceR: a suggested name for devuan's arm port00:40
buZzfurrywolf: oh, honestly, you just posted a hentai link of furrysex pics?00:41
buZzfurrywolf: i warned you about exactly that behaviour here already, so, bye00:42
buZzthose furries just cannot behave00:42
MinceRlol00:42
MinceRnot all furries are made equal00:42
buZzright00:42
buZzthe one that do act like that, do not make matters easier for the remainders00:43
buZzyou'll have to work twice as hard to show you're not gross00:43
djphbuZz: its exponential.01:32
agrisWhen I try to connect to WiFi in Devuan wicd crashes07:48
agriscan someone help me fix this?07:49
agrisbuZz, please do not permanently ban furrywolf08:23
FleaFartI miss furrywolf buZz08:24
agristobypus,08:26
agrishmm, about the wifi thing earlier09:50
agriscan anyone reproduce that wicd crashes upon attemping to connect to internationalized network names09:51
agrissuch as names that contain utf8 unicode characters?09:51
agrisnot the clients but the wicd server itself09:51
buZzagris: just help to keep furryw in line plz ;)16:15
premobosshi. i want to set up a "thing" that avoid to see some youtube channel based on filter words (i.e. minecraft, gta, ecc). I setup a pc taha act as accesspoint/gateway, lat call it B. the PC is the target , call it A. So, we have A---B---modem/router---internet. I dont want to work on A, all the traffic of A go trough B, so i wish that B filter/block the webpages that contains some not ammitted words (gta5,  inecraft, ecc). How to16:27
premobossdo? i tried squid+dansguardian but it does not give good results.16:27
buZzpremoboss: wget + grep ?16:28
buZz:D16:28
premobossbuZz, serious?16:32
buZzhalf, sure16:33
premobossah, only "ious".16:33
premobossi need a REAL solution.16:33
premobossif it exist.16:33
golinuxUnplug?16:35
golinuxI sometimes get very close to doing that16:35
buZzpremoboss: this looks promissing ; https://mindchasers.com/dev/app-squid-redirect16:36
buZzyou could make that external program actually grab the page , scan for keywords, and return 'disney.com' if some keywords are present16:36
premobossi haave teen at home (kids). i can spend all tie to sirveil them. but also i cannot avoid 100% of youtube to them. so i want to filter what they can see and what they cannot see. In short, i want to partially blacklist some youtube channels.16:36
premobosstie=time16:37
james1138It is dated info - 6 of the best content filters for Linux https://www.techradar.com/news/software/applications/6-of-the-best-content-filters-for-linux-69830716:37
premobossThanks james1138 and buZz , i will check your infos.16:38
james1138If you are using Chrome - https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/video-blocker/jknkjnpcbbgcbdbaampbjlhkcghmgfhk?hl=en16:38
premobossjames1138, no, the filter MUST work on a reparate PC(proxy, nothing on the target pc must be chabged. so i can applicate the filter to all OS and/or webbrowser.16:39
james1138More towards Debian/Devuan - http://squid-web-proxy-cache.1019090.n4.nabble.com/block-youtube-google-videos-and-other-kind-of-stream-td4665032.html16:39
buZzpremoboss: i think a issue could be that not many minecraft videos have the word 'minecraft' on them16:40
buZzwell, not -all- anyway16:40
premobossbuZz, the goal is to show to my son that who is the boss at home its ME.16:40
buZz:)16:40
buZzyes boss16:40
buZz:D16:40
premobossso if i say NO THIS, it must be NO.16:41
premobossand youtube channel is the beginning, i must care also all XXX websites.16:41
premobossbuzz i can also use the nale of the youtuber to filter his channell.. as soon as i see a "hole" i can fix it adding the right not-allowed wird into blacklist.16:42
furrywolfyou sound like a real great parent.  the kind whose kids will run away from home and then will act all surprised and wonder what their problem is.16:43
premobosswe are talkng about a 7 years old boy. my due is to care and protect him. and if thee care need some "NO", well, "NO" must be.16:43
asbestoquite a difficul task :/16:45
specingfurrywolf: yes16:45
golinuxWater always finds a crack to seep through16:45
specingpremoboss: a 7 year old boy should be outside playing with others not staring at a computer16:46
specinggive him books16:46
premobossof course. but lets wait untill you will have kids at home, thab came back after your experieces with them :-)16:46
asbestolook around, we all were staring at computer being 7y old :16:46
asbesto:)16:46
asbesto*computerS16:46
premobossspecing, outuse is cold and rain.16:46
specingpremoboss: you could also simply not give him internet access16:47
premobossasbewsto... ma ci conosciamo?16:47
asbestoprobabile :)16:47
premobossa qualeche hackmeeting :-.)16:47
asbestoah SICURO :)16:47
premobossgrasso, cappellino verde militare, museo dei computer?16:47
asbestograsso una volta ;)16:47
asbestocomunque cappellino verde militare, e si, http://museum.freaknet.org :)16:48
premobossdai tempi di netsukuku, ahahaha16:48
asbesto:D dai parliamo inglese che non e' carino qui.16:48
asbestosorry dudes, old friends chat16:48
premobossspecing, avoid all internet access is not a solution either.16:48
specingpremoboss: why not?16:48
asbestoFWIW I will NOT filter out any GTA5 content. HAHAHAHAHA16:48
premobossspecing, youe question show so clear that you are NOT a father. with kids, ALL OR NOTHING DOES NOT Wwork.16:49
premoboss:-)16:49
specingpremoboss: I was a kid once16:49
specingpremoboss: we had no internet @ home until I was 13 or something16:49
premobossall of uss was. and to say NO AT ALL always i not a slution, trust me.16:50
specingonly a computer16:50
premobossis not a GOOD solution, at least.16:50
specingand when we signed up for internet access, my parents attempted no censorship at all16:51
furrywolfwhen I was a pup, I built wolfy dens out of scrap wood high up in trees, complete with power, care of random taillight bulbs...  internet wasn't a thing then.  heh.16:52
premobossspecing, wen we was young, internet was at 56k, and wans ont the "dark" place is became recently.16:52
specingpremoboss: I'm still young :)16:52
premobossspecing, as i said, came back when you will has kids.16:53
premobossto be a father will cahnge your mind, 100% for sure.16:53
specingpremoboss: by then it'll be too late and you would already ruined your child16:53
premobosswell: we are out of topic. the topic is how to filter partially youtube videos based no keywords.16:53
premobossgente, sto tentando di proteggre i miei figli dalla parte "spaglata" di youtube, se qualcuno vuole aiutarmi, lo ringrazio.16:54
furrywolfit's hard to filter https.  this is intentional.16:55
premobosssbagliata16:55
buZzfurrywolf: not really, you can just wget + grep it like any other17:00
buZzi mean, in a squid setup17:00
furrywolfdoes the proxy even get the url?  I thought that under modern https, all a proxy would ever be able to parse is the hostname.17:01
buZzit gets the hostname + the GET parameters17:03
furrywolfand the only way to know what urls were being loaded would require software on the client device, or installation of evil certificates on the device, which would go against the "must work on any device without modifications" requirement.17:03
buZzso 'youtube.com' and 'GET /watch?v=0000000'17:03
buZz-even- with https17:04
furrywolfare you sure about that?  I thought the encryption was done one layer below the http headers, now that everything is TLS and such...17:04
buZzhttp proxies work like that yeah, also for https17:04
james1138Why not just be truly evil and flip the switch on the fuse box to the room with the computer! (evil laugh).17:04
furrywolfthe browser is just going to send a CONNECT, and then the proxy won't get anything past that.17:05
buZzfurrywolf: thats a socks proxy, not a http proxy17:05
buZzsquid is only the latter, not the former17:05
furrywolfwhen doing https over a http proxy, you send CONNECT which tells the proxy you just want a connection.  the proxy won't see the http request.  mozilla.org's compatability table suggests everything does this now.17:07
furrywolfdefined in https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7231#section-4.3.617:07
furrywolfI haven't actually tested this (I use SOCKS here), but I think that got fixed a while ago....17:10
furrywolfsquid's ssl mitm mode pages confirm squid doesn't get anything but host and port normally.17:12
furrywolfsquid _does_ have the capability to mitm your tls connections, but it requires installing certificates on every client.17:16
* asbesto is away: eating20:21
MinceRthanks for the info!~20:30
agrisI find it funny Intel hardware's PCI Vendor ID always starts with 8086:20:35
agrisfor sure that's intentional20:35
yetiwho has/is "cafe:"?20:36
yeti Chrysalis-ITS20:38

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