* tuxd3v tuxd3v is busy building mesa for armhf.. | 03:09 | |
systemdlete | is there a non-web gui tool for mysql available for devuan? I can't find one. | 07:05 |
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systemdlete | (I'd like one!) | 07:05 |
systemdlete | Toad used to be popular, but it seems it is not in our repo | 07:05 |
systemdlete | I tried mysql-workbench, but it crashes when I try to open a connection to a db | 07:06 |
systemdlete | dbeaver looked promising, but alas, we don't have that either? | 07:06 |
cehteh | libreoffice database :DDD | 08:00 |
gnarface | i'm not sure toad is open source | 09:10 |
gnarface | i think it was always shareware/nagware wasn't it? | 09:11 |
gnarface | nothing is really stopping you from running a web-based client from a local webserver though | 09:11 |
lifebook | hi | 09:29 |
lifebook | binary ghostscript packages in beowulf-security seems to be in sync now | 09:30 |
lifebook | a great thank you to all that make this happen | 09:31 |
jaromil | sry for confusion | 11:42 |
GyrosGeier | can we have a second conference in 2020? | 12:51 |
GyrosGeier | hm | 16:10 |
GyrosGeier | does it make sense to try to get devuan-keyring inside Debian, for use by debootstrap/pbuilder? | 16:10 |
GyrosGeier | I mean, my main Jenkins worker is Devuan, and it can build Debian chroots just fine, but other people might want to go the other way | 16:11 |
tuxd3v | GyrosGeier, what you mean by 'get devuan-keyring inside Debian'? | 18:51 |
GyrosGeier | get the package included | 18:51 |
GyrosGeier | so I can just use debootstrap --keyring /usr/share/keyrings/devuan-archive-keyring.gpg --mirror ... --distribution ascii | 18:52 |
tuxd3v | If you are in devuan....you already hait :) | 18:53 |
tuxd3v | hait -> have it | 18:54 |
GyrosGeier | yes | 18:54 |
GyrosGeier | but my use case is "Debian system, I need a Devuan chroot" | 18:54 |
GyrosGeier | Debian also ships the Ubuntu keyring for the same reason | 18:55 |
GyrosGeier | that is very useful for CI machines | 18:55 |
GyrosGeier | I've configured chroots for all relevant releases across distros in Jenkins now | 18:56 |
tuxd3v | you can add the souces from devuan and get it :) | 18:57 |
tuxd3v | then copy it to chroot :) | 18:57 |
tuxd3v | 'deb http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged ascii main contrib non-free' | 18:58 |
tuxd3v | maybe it will conflict with the debian keyring, don't know.. | 18:59 |
tuxd3v | /usr/share/keyrings/devuan-archive-keyring.gpg | 19:00 |
tuxd3v | :) | 19:01 |
ychaouche | hello #devuan | 19:19 |
ychaouche | GyrosGeier, do you run graphical applications from chrooted environements ? | 19:19 |
ychaouche | I'm looking for general tips to do that | 19:19 |
ychaouche | I tried to run a wine application from a chroot and didn't succeed | 19:20 |
GyrosGeier | tuxd3v, it doesn't conflict -- and the point is that I want to be able to deploy chroots without manual steps | 19:20 |
GyrosGeier | adding Devuan sources to a Debian system just so I can install the keyring (which is still from an untrusted source at this point) is a manual step | 19:20 |
GyrosGeier | so IMO, shipping devuan-archive-keyring in Debian would make sense | 19:21 |
GyrosGeier | ychaouche, you need an appropriate setting for $DISPLAY, and $XAUTHORITY pointing to a file the chroot can access | 19:21 |
GyrosGeier | if your home is mounted inside the chroot, it should work | 19:22 |
GyrosGeier | otherwise, you need to either copy ~/.Xauthority to the home inside the chroot, or create a new token and install that | 19:22 |
ychaouche | This is a great tip, much appreciated. | 19:23 |
ychaouche | I often mount --bind /home in the chrooted environement | 19:23 |
GyrosGeier | that should work | 19:23 |
GyrosGeier | but you need to be careful when cleaning up then | 19:24 |
GyrosGeier | happened a few times to me :/ | 19:24 |
ychaouche | The only clean up I do is just unmount /home and that's about it. | 19:25 |
GyrosGeier | ah, you never delete chroots? | 19:28 |
ychaouche | Maybe we have different use cases. The chroots I usually work with are systems installed on another partition, that I sometimes boot into. So I keep them yes. | 19:32 |
premoboss | hi, why program 'shotcut' (video editor) is not present into devuan repositories? | 22:52 |
fsmithred | premoboss, because it's not in debian | 22:57 |
premoboss | fsmithred, because is not in devian does not means it cannot be in devuan. | 22:58 |
premoboss | fsmithred, because is not in debian does not means it cannot be in devuan. | 22:58 |
fsmithred | you are correct | 22:58 |
fsmithred | do you have someone in mind who would like to maintain it? | 22:58 |
premoboss | i ask in differente way: why not add shotcut to devuna repo? it seems to be a good program for video editing. | 22:58 |
premoboss | i have noone in mind. more, i have not skill to do. Simply, i need a pogram like that and because i am a devuan user, here i am to talk about. because if someone talks, maybe some others will do. if yes, good. if not,.. i will not die for. | 23:00 |
fsmithred | maybe someone else will read this and take an interest | 23:00 |
premoboss | fsmithred, you got the right meaning. | 23:01 |
fsmithred | there is no official procedure for getting a package into devuan, but if someone makes a package, lets people know, and people start using it, it could possibly get put into the repo | 23:01 |
premoboss | ok | 23:03 |
fsmithred | I see there's an appimage for shotcut | 23:06 |
fsmithred | have you tried that? | 23:06 |
premoboss | fsmithred, i did, but it does not start. | 23:25 |
premoboss | no message error. | 23:25 |
premoboss | jack is isntalled | 23:25 |
fsmithred | it started for me, but it wouldn't open the two videos I tried. | 23:30 |
premoboss | fsmithred, did you follo the istruction and install dependences? | 23:43 |
premoboss | jack? | 23:43 |
premoboss | now im tryng openshot, but it is slloooooooooowwwww. or maybe i have a too much old pc. For sure, openshot does not care my dual core and use only one core. bad. | 23:44 |
premoboss | oh, my bad. it does. but wrap to blender. | 23:45 |
fsmithred | no, I didn't install anything or read anything | 23:45 |
fsmithred | and no jack on this system | 23:46 |
tuxd3v | https://www.debian.org/vote/2019/vote_002 | 23:47 |
tuxd3v | a new proposal D was added by Ian Jackson | 23:47 |
golinux | tuxd3v: Yup. | 23:47 |
golinux | I figured something like that would happen. | 23:48 |
tuxd3v | me too.. :) | 23:49 |
gnu_srs1 | golinux: Nice to see a good alternative, let's hope for the best :) | 23:56 |
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