libera/#devuan/ Saturday, 2019-11-23

filipdevuan_hi00:43
tuxd3vdebian port for armhf states about eabi that is armv5T compatible... but its impossible to compile code for armv6...well well..02:00
tuxd3vthey state they droped 4T, seems that they dropped 4T,5T,602:01
MinceRthey could run armv5 code on armv6, then02:01
tuxd3vI am compiling in armv7 for armv6, and I can't02:01
tuxd3vsorry, unimplemented: Thumb-1 hard-float VFP ABI02:01
tuxd3vonly becasue I am using one armv6 arch.. more precisedly the rpi1 cpu 'arm1176jzf-s'02:02
tuxd3v'arm1176jzf-s' used the first implementation of vfp I believe02:05
tuxd3vKow I am in the dark.. tried to run devuan armhf and after the kernel loads, it hangs..and I don't know why..02:06
tuxd3vnow compiling fluxbox in armv7 for armv6 and I can't ...the toolchains is also old 6.3..02:07
tuxd3vI was trying the last version of fluxbox..02:08
tuxd3v:)02:08
tuxd3vthe one in the debian experimental repos..02:09
tuxd3vMinceR, maybe I was wrong about armel droping 5T, 6 arm archs... I simply configured badly my builder, and I got a armhf rootfs..06:17
tuxd3vyeah...sometimes its better to go back to the starting point.. saves time and a headache ..06:18
tuxd3vprobably I would have to find a crosstolchain compatible, somewere..06:19
tuxd3vARM has one but its armhf, and I really don't know if they follow the same EABI as debian..06:19
tuxd3vthey have one from 2018, but is explicictly soft-float.. I want hardfloat, but for armv6 :S06:20
systemdletewhen I use pastebinit, it gives me the website (paste.debian.com) but not the page (something like zYzza3sa)06:35
systemdleteseems that pastebin.com is down right now06:35
systemdlete(DDOS attack or something maybe? idk)06:35
kappahey, i performed a dist-upgrade on my machine, and APT seems to have appended a few lines to my sources.list18:44
kappait used to only point to Beowulf packages, but it's now added Ceres repositories to it, should I remove the old Beowulf lines?18:45
fsmithredwhat lines?18:45
fsmithredpaste them somewhere not here18:45
fsmithreddo you want to run ceres?18:46
kappacan i paste one?18:46
fsmithred(not advised)18:46
fsmithredone line, yes18:46
kappadeb http://us.mirror.devuan.org/merged/ beowulf main18:47
kappai have several of these in the file, after i performed the dist-upgrade, it added two more, but these were for ceres repositories18:48
fsmithredget rid of it18:48
kappaof the beowulf one?18:48
kappaokay18:48
fsmithredif you want beowulf lines, or any, they should be deb.devuan.org18:48
kappathe new ceres lines are devuan.org18:49
fsmithredand don't bother with country codes now. They aren't set up.18:49
fsmithreddeb.devuan.org?18:49
kappapackages.devuan.org18:49
fsmithredno18:49
fsmithredget rid of packages.devuan.org18:49
fsmithredand use deb.devuan.org for all18:49
fsmithredunless you run into problems with it18:50
fsmithredand which do you want to run? ascii, beowulf or ceres?18:50
fsmithredceres is nowhere near ready18:50
tuxd3vfsmithred, seems that there are a invalid name certificate on: https://deb.devuan.org18:51
tuxd3vissued for CN: 'mirrors.dotsrc.org'18:51
kappawelp, these ceres lines were added in apparently, i didn't add them in myself, and i've already done an update with them in-place, so i sure as hell can't go back18:51
kappaat least as far as i know18:52
fsmithredyou're using https with apt? If so, you must specify a mirror that uses https18:52
kappai'm not18:52
fsmithredwere you running ascii or beowulf before the upgrade?18:52
kappaas far as i know18:52
kappabeowulf18:52
fsmithredok, if they were added during the upgrade, you should still be in beowulf18:53
fsmithredyou would have to update and upgrade again for them to take effect18:53
kappabut i'm pretty sure i have18:53
fsmithredoh18:53
kappathat's the thing, so as far as i know i'm in ceres now18:53
fsmithredthere's a way to revert with pinning18:53
kappanothings exploded so far18:54
fsmithredyou might get away with running ceres18:54
kappais there? i've heard in other places that reverting isn't possible18:54
fsmithredI have to remember where it was explained.18:54
fsmithredI think you pin beowulf to 100118:54
fsmithredand I'm not sure what to set for ceres18:55
fsmithredmight be on forum and might be on dng mailing list18:55
fsmithredthere's also a way to see which packages are from beowulf and which from ceres18:55
fsmithredwith aptitude18:55
fsmithredaptitude search ~i -F"%p# %v# %t#"18:57
onefangIf you are not using https for apt, then you should not be seeing https://deb.devuan.org.18:57
kappaok, i'm not sure if i'll try reverting, but i'll keep it in mind just in case staying in ceres doesn't pan out for me18:58
onefangdeb.devuan.org is a DNS round robin, in your case it's sending you to mirrors.dotsrc.org, but apparently using https, mirrors.dotsrc.org doesn't have the deb.devuan.org certificate, it has it's own.18:58
kappai'm not seeing https tho, if you're talking to me that is18:58
onefangYep, I'm talking to you.18:59
kappawhat do you mean exactly, i mean i wasn't mentioning https18:59
onefangOh wait.  It's 4AM here, I was talking to tuxd3v that DID mention https.  Sorry.19:00
kappaoh, okay19:01
onefangtuxd3v: don't use https with deb.devuan.org.  It's a round robin, the mirrors it will send you to only have their own certificates, not one for deb.devuan.org.19:05
kappawhen i install packages of a different architecture (i386) apt doesn't automatically install their dependencies like it usually does, does anyone know what to do about this?19:33
kappai tried apt install -f19:33
kappaand using aptitude, neither worked19:33
tuxd3vonefang, I understood that :)19:46
tuxd3vOne way, but envolves more complexity would be to setup a loadbalancer in the front-end, with it having and serving the requests with the correct certificate...19:47
tuxd3vbut that would involve more infrastructure..19:47
tuxd3vmaintenance, and complexity..19:48
tuxd3vnot to speak about region, that you would need to setup several..19:49
tuxd3vonefang, thanks for your  clarification :)19:50
onefangYou are welcome.19:50
fsmithredIf one uses apt-transport-https, must all the repositories in sources.list be https, or is it possible to use both? Problem is that new skype depends on apt-transport-https20:50
fsmithredhm, older version says the same thing.20:52
onefangI think it's possible to use both, but I haven't tried it.20:56
fsmithredok, it seems to work. I didn't have to change anything in sources.list, skype added a file in sources.list.d and that line only uses https20:57
fsmithredapt update didn't complain20:57
onefangCool.20:57
fsmithredand nothing to upgrade at this time20:57
golinuxskype?  Really??21:00
onefangSometimes you are forced to use skype.  I was once long ago, coz the client insisted.21:02
fsmithredI'm making a live-iso for a friend21:16
fsmithredshe uses skype every day21:16
fsmithredI can't get her to change to anything else21:16
golinuxI suspected that was the situation . . .21:23
jl4By chance ... does anybody here run Yunnhost on Devuan ?21:54
agrisonefang, you might be able to install a skype transport for xmpp23:46
jl4oh... a skype transport for xmpp ?23:59
* jl4 http://pad.librebits.info/p/init-freedom23:59

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