libera/#devuan/ Monday, 2020-02-10

ravencrowopensuse08:02
raphahi14:43
raphais it possible to migrate a Debian 9 system (that never had any 3rd-party repositories or packages) over to Devuan, and if so, what do i need to be mindful of?14:44
specingyou can make a snapshot and try14:44
gnarfaceyes, https://files.devuan.org/devuan_ascii/Release_notes.txt14:44
specingprobably not hard to do14:45
* rapha reads14:46
gnarfaceif you use a graphical login then pay special attention to the "### Session management and policykit backends" section14:46
fsmithredthere are migration guides, too14:46
raphaseems that for headless systems without network-manager it's pretty trivial14:47
gnarfacethere's a migration guide linked from the early part of the release notes14:47
gnarfaceit has been pretty trivial for me14:47
raphai think my main prob will be lack of free disk space; need to enlarge the LV first14:47
fsmithredhttps://devuan.org/os/documentation/dev1fanboy/migrate-to-ascii14:48
fsmithredplease don't run out of space in the middle of an upgrade. I did that a couple days ago and totally trashed the installation. (brand new install, no data loss)14:49
raphaouch, sorry to hear that!15:04
cehtehrapha: i did that serveral times devand to debian, forth and back .. always worked well, but was mostly servers/containers never desktop environments, i would expect problems with heavyweight DE's15:06
yetiI removed the DE and even Xorg before transgrading15:20
yetiremove, not purge15:20
yetito keep the configs15:21
yetikeeping the packages list at hand helps15:21
yetithe installed ones...15:24
raphacehteh: oh! you here, too! :-D (sorry to hear about having to go back to Debian, though)15:30
cehteh:)15:33
cehtehi am agnostic, i give systemd a chance where it works and have no patience with it when it does not15:34
cehtehoften enough things just dont work15:34
raphaSounds pragmatically sensible :)15:38
lupin3rdanyone that have problem with deb repository today ??16:39
lupin3rdi have a lot of 403 errors16:39
Evilhamlupin3rd: got a bit more details? it doesn't look like sth is terribly wrong on first sight17:01
lupin3rdErr:1 http://deb.devuan.org/merged ascii/main amd64 samba amd64 2:4.5.16+dfsg-1+deb9u217:39
lupin3rd  403  Forbidden [IP: 151.101.36.204 80]17:39
lupin3rdErr:1 http://deb.devuan.org/merged ascii-security/main amd64 samba amd64 2:4.5.16+dfsg-1+deb9u217:39
lupin3rd  403  Forbidden [IP: 151.101.36.204 80]17:39
lupin3rdE: Failed to fetch http://deb.debian.org/debian-security/pool/updates/main/s/samba/samba_4.5.16+dfsg-1+deb9u2_amd64.deb  403  Forbidden [IP: 151.101.36.204 80]17:39
lupin3rdsorry !!! i found a configuration problem on my firewall :-D sorry!17:40
Evilhamlupin3rd: great :-D18:03
Evilhamboth that you found the issue and that it wasn't us18:03
Evilhamthank you for reporting anyway, sometimes things do slip18:04

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