libera/#devuan/ Thursday, 2020-02-27

TwistedFatehow does one automatically skip/close the newsletters from apt when upgrading packages?01:29
gnarface"q"01:31
gnarfaceiirc01:31
TwistedFatethat's the manual way01:32
TwistedFatebut what about during the update command?01:32
gnarfaceoh, automatically.  i don't know01:32
TwistedFate:/01:32
tuxd3vexport DEBIAN_FRONTEND='noninteractive'01:33
tuxd3vtry this ^^01:33
tuxd3vbefore updating01:33
tuxd3vor before using apt..01:34
tuxd3vyou can also use:01:34
tuxd3vexport DEBIAN_FRONTEND='teletype'01:34
masonTwistedFate: I think what you're looking fork is apt-listchanges. You can just delete the package.03:56
masonfor*03:56
initfrhello, anyone can help me? i need to understand why systemd is dangerous, any book or resources recommendation?18:37
djphinitfr: it depends on what you mean by "dangerous"18:38
initfrdjph: systemd creates planned obsolescence, in my cpu/gpu with systemd i have 10-12ÂșC more than with openrc or systemvinit18:40
djphI mean, that could be as simple as the CPU needing to do more with the general OS installation than otherwise18:40
initfri was benchmarking with devuan/antix/mxlinux/freebsd and in the other side with systemd distros like ubuntu/manjaro and always the same results18:42
djphassuming you're swapping entire distros, and not so much just debian with sysv vs. with the other thing18:42
djphyeah, it's kinda hard to apples-to-apples in that regard18:42
djphinitfr: I guess a starting point would be https://nosystemd.org/18:45
initfryes ty18:46
anti_systemdhello22:20
banisterfiendhi there :) why is devuan asking me to install a dvd when i'm just trying to install an apt package? (wireguard)23:26
fsmithredbanisterfiend, you probably only have the cdrom line in /etc/apt/sources.list23:36
fsmithredoh23:36
fsmithredit's the first line - comment it out and 'apt update' again23:37
fsmithredassuming you have at least one deb line (probably three)23:37
banisterfiendthanks23:38
banisterfiendfsmithred i notice that devuan does not install a kernel module for wireguard though?!23:42
fsmithredI think that might be in newer kernels23:42
fsmithredyou installed ascii?23:43
banisterfiendfsmithred yes, was that a mistake?23:43
fsmithrednope23:43
fsmithredthat's pretty much the only choice. Beowulf will be released soon.23:43
banisterfiendbut it's too old for a wg kernel module?23:44
fsmithredI know I read something in the last couple of weeks about wireguard being included in linux23:45
fsmithredmight be in 5.4 kernel, but I'm not sure23:45
fsmithredstarting in 5.623:46
fsmithredhttps://wiki.debian.org/Wireguard23:46
banisterfiendthanks23:47
fsmithredit's in sid/ceres and bullseye/chimaera23:47
fsmithrednone of which are ready for prime-time23:47
fsmithredit's in (wireguard packages)23:48
fsmithrednot the native support in the kernel. 5.6 is not in sid yet.23:49
banisterfiendthx23:51
fsmithredyw23:51

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