g4570n | !ping | 01:26 |
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infobot | 1 packet transmitted, 1 packet received, 0.0% packet loss | 01:26 |
tponaf | nsg | 01:46 |
stovepipe | locate locale | 02:37 |
stovepipe | oop | 02:37 |
stovepipe | not even sure why i typed that, i was supposed to be searching this window to see if anyone was talking abou tit | 02:38 |
stovepipe | got an error while updating | 02:38 |
stovepipe | https://pastebin.com/Nf8aJ81X | 02:43 |
tponaf | stovepipe maybe set your LC_ALL to equal $LANG | 02:46 |
tponaf | i don't remember the difference | 02:46 |
stovepipe | the locale command also errors | 02:47 |
stovepipe | yeah but this is with a default install though | 02:47 |
stovepipe | installer didnt set it right | 02:48 |
tponaf | dpkg-reconfigure locales will allow you to select and reset your locale environment variables | 02:48 |
tponaf | i'm using en_DK.UTF-8 for 24h timezone | 02:48 |
stovepipe | i know i can fix it, but it needs to be fixed in the installer | 02:49 |
stovepipe | https://pastebin.com/gta4jjzg | 02:50 |
tponaf | i'd be happy if you would fix it stovepipe | 02:53 |
stovepipe | heh i'm not in charge of any of that | 02:53 |
stovepipe | also grub still says debian | 02:54 |
tuxd3v | hello all, I have installed manually the Nvidia driver '390.87', but I know that on 418.X there are better thermal handling, and performance for my gtx1060 6GB, so the backports have '418.74-1~bpo9+1' :) | 05:04 |
tuxd3v | my question is that if anybody already installed the ascii-backports version on ascii? :) | 05:05 |
tuxd3v | in the past I had never installed a graphics driver for nvidia from a repo, I don't know what I should install first.. | 05:06 |
tuxd3v | I usually compile the module manually in init 1 | 05:06 |
gnarface | tuxd3v: works for me. make sure to get the kernel from backports too though. (fyi i couldn't prove the 390.xx driver works at all for the 1060 i have here) | 05:16 |
tuxd3v | gnarface, thanks | 05:17 |
tuxd3v | Does I need to get the headers of the backports kernel? what do you think? | 05:17 |
gnarface | tuxd3v: yes, you need them for nvidia's official drivers (the blob is put in a wrapper that's compiled on-the-fly at install time by dkms for your individual kernel) | 05:21 |
gnarface | i think it might even it still say it tries to download a copy from their server first, but i think they also stopped stocking them decades ago. i've literally never seen it successfully find one anyway. | 05:22 |
tuxd3v | gnarface, yeah, at least to install manually its via dkms and the headers are needed.. | 05:23 |
tuxd3v | thanks | 05:23 |
tuxd3v | I will unistall the manual version I have , and then install the nvidia one | 05:24 |
tuxd3v | I am idling at 12W of power with 390.xx series | 05:24 |
tuxd3v | and I know I can achieve 6,7,8 with a more recent driver | 05:24 |
tuxd3v | in standby | 05:24 |
tuxd3v | I am refering to power consumption( watts ), sorry :) | 05:25 |
tuxd3v | but its not only that, 390 only alows me to gave cuda toolkit 7.5 I believe | 05:25 |
tuxd3v | and I want at least cuda 9-10 | 05:25 |
tuxd3v | gave -> have | 05:26 |
gnarface | tuxd3v: my testing hasn't been extensive. the major features all seem to work but i just noticed sleep may not be reliable. | 05:32 |
tuxd3v | gnarface, when you do a 'nvidia-smi' | 05:35 |
tuxd3v | what is the wattage of your 1060? | 05:35 |
tuxd3v | thanks in advance | 05:36 |
gnarface | tuxd3v: uh, i think i was avoiding installing that package for a reason. is there any other way to check? | 05:40 |
gnarface | maybe the value is exposed in /sys somewhere? | 05:42 |
tuxd3v | ho.. I see maybe it doesn't provide nvidia-smi.. | 05:42 |
tuxd3v | yeah it showl be | 05:43 |
tuxd3v | let me chak if I find it :) | 05:43 |
gnarface | yea, nvidia-smi isn't actually one isn't one of the required packages, it'll upgrade it if you already installed it but nothing actually depends on it | 05:43 |
tuxd3v | nope, the unique things I have found is: | 05:53 |
tuxd3v | cat /proc/driver/nvidia/gpus/0000:04:00.0/information | 05:53 |
tuxd3v | bt doesn't give me any info about power | 05:53 |
tuxd3v | nvidia-smi could do queries to the graphics directly | 05:54 |
tuxd3v | the most probable | 05:54 |
tuxd3v | to install a cups server for a HP printer, I need to install cups, but I see a ton of dependencies.. | 05:56 |
tuxd3v | I am scared hehe.. | 05:56 |
tuxd3v | can I just install 'cups-core-drivers' ? | 05:57 |
tuxd3v | 'cups-server-common' I mean | 05:57 |
tuxd3v | because it tries to install clients and so on.. | 05:58 |
gnarface | did you try it with --no-install-recommends? | 06:03 |
tuxd3v | to be honest I don't :( | 06:04 |
gnarface | that might cut down on the extra packages a bit | 06:04 |
tuxd3v | but I believe I have it somewere configured in apt | 06:04 |
tuxd3v | yeah they are a lot almost 60MB do download | 06:05 |
tuxd3v | and another thing.. I have a kernel 5.4 ina rpi1, to install cups, apt says that I need to have linux-libc-dev from the repo.. why? | 06:06 |
tuxd3v | I installed mine | 06:06 |
tuxd3v | but it refuses so I installed the 4.19 version from devuan | 06:06 |
tuxd3v | but later I will try to force my 5.4 version :) | 06:07 |
gnarface | hmm. some of the printer drivers may need to be built on the fly? i can only speculate. printing is linked to a lot of different programs | 06:07 |
tuxd3v | the rpi1 is armel, and my kernel is armhf( to take advantage of the fpu in the processor ). | 06:07 |
tuxd3v | it could be | 06:08 |
gnarface | anyone know if suspend/hibernate buttons are always greyed out on ascii lightdm greeters, or if there's just some other package i'm missing...? | 06:10 |
tuxd3v | gnarface, I use slim, I don't have lightdm :( | 06:33 |
tuxd3v | but in xfce, I see all options availlable | 06:33 |
tuxd3v | whe I hit logout | 06:33 |
gnarface | tuxd3v: and still works with the backports kernel? | 06:35 |
gnarface | kdm's logout screen suspend button works, but for some reason the lightdm ones are greyed out no matter which greeter i use.. | 06:35 |
gnarface | i think that supports my missing packages theory too though | 06:36 |
tuxd3v | gnarface, I haven't yet installed it, I am still trying to solve my own mess :S | 06:37 |
gnarface | alright | 06:37 |
gnarface | i'll let you know if i figure it out | 06:37 |
tuxd3v | I created a lot of firewall rules so that the router will be unable to see some devices.. | 06:37 |
tuxd3v | but now I am paying the price has my own dns server doesn't work too :( | 06:37 |
tuxd3v | So i came to install cups, and detected that my rules.. are not yet there :( | 06:38 |
tuxd3v | tomorrow will go ahead with the driver :) | 06:38 |
tuxd3v | at least I will try | 06:38 |
tponaf | so a couple years iptables under debian changed | 06:40 |
tponaf | and i still haven't figured out what they changed | 06:40 |
tponaf | is there a transitioning to the new iptables world writeup somewhere | 06:40 |
tuxd3v | tponaf, yeah, and now chamged again.. | 06:59 |
tuxd3v | *changed | 06:59 |
tponaf | that's some annoying "pay attention to meee" development imo | 07:00 |
tuxd3v | damm my printer is without ink.. I suspect that something bad will haven to me today hehehe.. | 07:00 |
tuxd3v | I can't add it via cups | 07:00 |
tuxd3v | it gives me error | 07:00 |
tuxd3v | I only want to configure it, not to use it.. | 07:00 |
tponaf | cause i don't see a justification to break scripts, helper programs and experience of tens of thousands of iptables users | 07:01 |
tuxd3v | HP always scrambling.. | 07:01 |
tuxd3v | tponaf, yeah, but only because of some gains in a small part of it, they are changing it completly, new syntax and so on... it goes systemd way | 07:02 |
tuxd3v | one of this days, bsd will be the best option heheh | 07:02 |
tuxd3v | now just imagine.. the zillion lines of iptables that is running out there | 07:03 |
tuxd3v | what will people do? | 07:03 |
tuxd3v | in my opinion, you will try to maintain the most you can in iptables | 07:04 |
tuxd3v | but some day will arise that, you will need to migrate.. | 07:04 |
tuxd3v | the new syntax is very weird, in my personal opinion, but they say that "..its a charm.." | 07:05 |
tuxd3v | they renamed it.. | 07:08 |
tuxd3v | https://www.netfilter.org/projects/nftables/index.html | 07:08 |
tuxd3v | now you will be doing rules in json format | 07:08 |
tuxd3v | some of this days, you will be designing your firewall rules in json format | 07:09 |
tponaf | there is a legacy iptables still? | 07:17 |
tuxd3v | tponaf, dor now yes | 07:31 |
tuxd3v | dor -> for | 07:31 |
tponaf | what's your pick for lowest power mp3 player | 13:41 |
aitor | hi | 14:06 |
Guest43256 | i've just announced the packages of simple-netaid in the mailing list | 14:08 |
Guest43256 | i'll be back shortly | 14:08 |
Bjorn-- | I've just installed a fresh copy of ascii 2.1 with cinnamon desktop, I'm getting a message on startup about software rendering. Which I understand is commonly a hardware limitation | 14:47 |
Bjorn-- | https://pastebin.com/ZW7CtgcH | 14:47 |
tponaf | don't use things requiring gpu by default | 14:47 |
Bjorn-- | my question is, is this just a hardware issue that cannot be overcome | 14:48 |
tponaf | GPU driver support is not something that can be guaranteed to work out-of-the-box for all hardware Bjorn-- | 14:51 |
tponaf | a gpu is 'bling' and people who write things that require it for no reason are doing the devil's work | 14:51 |
tponaf | it is possible 'cinnamon desktop' is such software. i don't know it. | 14:52 |
Bjorn-- | I've read that cinnamon requires hardware acceleration to be efficient. I just don't know if I have it or not | 14:54 |
Bjorn-- | I did some preliminary grabs on my setup but I can't tell from it | 14:54 |
aitor | hi again | 15:39 |
fsmithred | Bjorn--, is firmware-amd-graphics installed? You need to have non-free enabled in sources.list to get it. | 15:49 |
Bjorn-- | non-free seems to be in the standard install now fsmithred | 15:54 |
fsmithred | ok, I don't have any other ideas right now | 15:54 |
Bjorn-- | well, I mean the sources.list contains it | 15:54 |
fsmithred | dpkg -l |grep firmware | 15:55 |
Bjorn-- | that shows the realtek firmware, nothing graphics related, or is it? | 15:56 |
fsmithred | nope. That's network. | 15:56 |
fsmithred | apt install firmware-amd-graphics | 15:56 |
fsmithred | then restart the desktop | 15:56 |
Bjorn-- | ahh. awesome. I will try that. thanks fsmithred | 15:57 |
fsmithred | yw | 15:57 |
fsmithred | Bjorn--, did you use a network mirror during the install? | 15:58 |
Bjorn-- | I used the netinsall, I'm not sure which mirror I used now | 15:59 |
fsmithred | shouldn't matter - they should all act the same. I was just wondering if that one gets installed automatically or not. | 16:00 |
fsmithred | most of the wireless firmware should get installed auto if you have the hardware that needs it. | 16:00 |
Bjorn-- | yes, well, I've had trouble with the wifi for years on this box, the realtek, I have one of the models that wouldn't work until recently I think | 16:01 |
Bjorn-- | There is a git project project that had some success with it, I had been using the wifi for about a month but performance was horrible | 16:02 |
Bjorn-- | I just booted back in, no warning box. Looks like things are good fsmithred, I'm gonna take a look at whats different now. | 16:48 |
fsmithred | cool | 16:48 |
Bjorn-- | well, this is a good day. I've been running devuan on a usb for a couple years now. Now it's on my box and running much faster | 17:13 |
fonky | hey all | 21:06 |
tponaf | hi | 21:06 |
fonky | hey tponaf, how is it going? | 21:07 |
tponaf | ok. bread turned out good. gardening didn't work out. doing some work for maemo-leste atm | 21:08 |
tponaf | you know any devs for irc clients fonky ? | 21:08 |
Guest69154 | hey | 21:11 |
tponaf | ehu | 21:12 |
golinux | Please take non-support chat to #debianfork | 21:13 |
fonky | no not really | 21:17 |
fonky | which client in particular | 21:18 |
divansantana | how can one get a more up to date version on youtube-dl on devuan? | 22:27 |
divansantana | I have this version: 2017.05.18.1 | 22:27 |
divansantana | I see, it doesn't just use backports, one needs to install explicitly from there. | 22:28 |
Xenguy | divansantana: I ended up installing it from outside the devuan repo, to get a more up-to-date install... | 22:29 |
Xenguy | Then I could use the -U flag (doing by memory there) to update to the latest version | 22:30 |
Guest69154 | divanantana: curl https://yt-dl.org/latest/youtube-dl -o /usr/local/bin/youtube-dl | 22:30 |
Xenguy | Whenever necessary | 22:30 |
Xenguy | *going by memory | 22:30 |
Guest69154 | *divansantana* | 22:30 |
golinux | Hi aitor! | 22:37 |
Guest69154 | Hi golinux | 23:30 |
Guest69154 | i was writting some emails | 23:30 |
Guest69154 | bbl | 23:36 |
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