tuxd3v | ping fsmithred | 03:29 |
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fsmithred | hi | 03:31 |
bleb | whenever i mount a remote dir with sshfs, if i suspend my computer, the mountpoint becomes unresponsive and any process that tries to access it can't be killed | 04:17 |
bleb | is there any way to avoid this behavior | 04:17 |
bleb | like just let it be unmounted and let me run sshfs again | 04:18 |
tuxd3v | bleb, you mean ofcourse after suspension ?! | 04:19 |
bleb | yeah | 04:20 |
tuxd3v | or later when you wakeup your system | 04:20 |
bleb | after it wakes up | 04:20 |
tuxd3v | have you tried a 'mount -o remount -a' | 04:22 |
gnarface | question for kde users; is the experience better on beowulf than ascii in any significant way? (asking for a friend) | 09:31 |
cush | that's like blaming the glass for the bad beer your poured in it | 09:33 |
gnarface | you're reading something into the statement that isn't there. | 09:35 |
gnarface | i really am just asking if it's worth upgrading. | 09:35 |
gnarface | and i'm really not the one using it. | 09:35 |
cush | ok | 09:36 |
gnarface | but i figured some people around here would have already tried both and had some opinions | 09:37 |
cush | building firefox (pale moon) again. just insane what browsers have become | 09:41 |
bleb | found a weird bug on beowulf beta | 15:30 |
bleb | if i highlight something with a curved quote in firefox, i can't paste it outside firefox | 15:37 |
bleb | one example is the Note here: https://www.netbsd.org/docs/pkgsrc/using.html#how-to-build-and-install | 15:38 |
bleb | can anyone reproduce? | 15:39 |
bleb | bash has also been sporadically complaining about my locale being set incorrectly or not being set; could this be related? | 15:39 |
cush | hi bleb i hope to help | 18:35 |
cush | curved quotes like e.g. “make” ? | 18:36 |
cush | works fine here | 19:05 |
ejr | hi. so last week i installed devuan 3.0 on another machine and everything works fine except wifi. Yesterday wifi was suddenly disabled and the device was hardblocked with rfkill | 19:25 |
ejr | i attached another usb wifi device and then it worked again, even the internal one that was previously blocked. | 19:26 |
ejr | the internal one is an intel, the other one rtlwifi. | 19:26 |
ejr | today then, the same thing happened (wifi deactivated, hardblocked wlan0) but now even my external rtlwifi device does not work anymore. I also cannot activate wifi in networkmanager, it says it is deactivated and I cannot activate it. | 19:27 |
ejr | what could be the reason for this? | 19:27 |
cush | hi ejr | 19:28 |
ejr | might it be related to apparmor? | 19:28 |
cush | i would begin by learning wifimanagement without networkmanager | 19:30 |
ejr | cush: i know how to use wpa_supplicant and all manually. but this is not a problem with networkmanager. I tried using wpa_supplicant and still couldnt connect | 19:30 |
ejr | (unless nm somehow blocks other configurations of wifi) | 19:31 |
cush | i've forgotten too much of it myself to be of more specific assistance | 19:31 |
ejr | ahhh! interesting, now it works again. | 19:35 |
inak | I would like to encrypt my devuan partition. Would the following scenario work? I would cp -a / /mnt/devuan, then encrypt the devuan partition. After encryption, mount that partition and then either mv or cp -a /devuan /mnt. | 19:35 |
ejr | so, my thinkpad x61s has a switch that allows to deactivate wifi, i.e. hardblock it. i did definitely not touch it yesterday or today, but now i just set it to wifi off and then back to wifi on, and all of a sudden everything works fine again. | 19:36 |
ejr | strange. | 19:36 |
cush | that might reload the kernel module ejr or otherwise reset it | 19:37 |
ejr | yes, i also thought it might be related to some modprobe issue, and i reloaded both that of the intel card and the rtlwifi module. still that had no effect though | 19:38 |
inak | brb | 19:42 |
cush | sorry inak i don't know | 19:48 |
inak | cush: np, thanks anyway :) | 19:48 |
inak | I may try it and see anyway. But was trying to be safe, in case it wasn't good to do. | 19:49 |
cush | i know if i encrypt my system partitions it's going to bite me in the butt someday | 19:50 |
inak | yeah, probably. Just wanted to try and see how it works since it all seems to be talked about quite a bit nowadays. | 19:51 |
cush | i'm sure people can have valid reasons for it, including just wanting it in their sysadmin skillset | 19:52 |
inak | yeah | 19:53 |
inak | well, think I'll go search/study more about it, before trying :) | 19:54 |
ejr | can i just uninstall apparmor on devuan, without running into config problems on next boot? | 20:57 |
ejr | guess i'll just try. :) | 21:14 |
cush | i can't guarantee you won't ejr | 21:16 |
cush | i've only played with it a little while | 21:16 |
bleb | i installed kde-plasma-desktop to try it out | 22:23 |
bleb | didnt like it | 22:23 |
bleb | now if i ls somewhere with an sshfs mount, kde wallet tries to manage the authentication and won't close | 22:24 |
bleb | i did apt purge kde-plasma-desktop, but it's still on my computer | 22:26 |
bleb | how do i uninstall this stuff | 22:26 |
mason | bleb: now try apt --purge autoremove | 22:27 |
mason | bleb: Probably most of KDE is automatically installed based on that. | 22:27 |
bleb | its certainly the only package i installed manually | 22:28 |
cush | kde is not a decision to be taken lightly | 22:29 |
* cush chuckles | 22:29 | |
fsmithred | bleb, is task-kde-desktop installed? That might keep it in. (along with everything else it keeps in) | 22:31 |
bleb | no | 22:33 |
bleb | i think i might be okay after that autoremove command | 22:33 |
bleb | and rebooting | 22:33 |
bleb | unrelated issue: | 22:33 |
fsmithred | oh, good | 22:33 |
bleb | when i hit tab in bash, instead of autocomplete i get "bash: warning: setlocale: LC_CTYPE: cannot change locale (en_US.UTF-8) | 22:34 |
bleb | anyone else get this? | 22:34 |
fsmithred | yeah, the locale setting in the installer doesn't stick | 22:34 |
fsmithred | run 'dpkg-reconfigure locales' | 22:34 |
bleb | i feel like it might have something to do with the copying curved quotes issue i was complaining about last night | 22:34 |
fsmithred | oh, maybe | 22:35 |
cush | your locale might not have unicode support and hence no mapping for those particular 'curved quotes' codepoints | 22:37 |
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