tuxd3v | dev1galaxy.org seems to be unavailable | 01:46 |
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golinux | tuxd3v: Has been for almost a full day | 01:50 |
sgage | Yes, it's been down for many hours. They know about it, and will fix it ASAP | 01:52 |
golinux | Bottleneck is dyne who controls the domain | 01:52 |
sgage | Are we waiting for a new IP address to propagate out into DNS land? It has been a while... | 01:55 |
tuxd3v | golinux, thanks for the info :) | 01:56 |
golinux | The new dns hasn't been entered yet afaik so no propagation possible. Waiting on dyne to get back from holiday. | 01:58 |
sgage | Let | 02:02 |
sgage | Let's all have a holiday! | 02:03 |
systemdlete | ranix: Sorry got busy with other things | 03:23 |
systemdlete | I also get the crash. It just takes a minute or so after doing "run" in guestfish to find out what the fs layout is on the disk. | 03:24 |
systemdlete | ranix: Try this. export LIBGUESTFS_BACKEND_SETTINGS=force_tcg | 03:29 |
systemdlete | then run guestmount or guestfish. I find it works if that is set. If you are running these programs while virtualbox is running, it runs into a qemu bug. See https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1277744#c6 | 03:30 |
systemdlete | (and btw, I've been looking high and low for such a tool. Thanks for this tip!) | 03:30 |
thanatiel | Hi. It seems packages.roundr.devuan.org is down, so is dev1galaxy.org | 07:43 |
onefang | We are aware of that. First of all use deb.devuan.org instead of packages.roundr.devuan.org. dev1galaxy.org has to wait for the people with the keys to that to fix it. | 07:48 |
thanatiel | that's the thing : packages.roundr.devuan.org isn't listed anywhere in my source list files. | 08:01 |
golinux | Maybe sources.list.d? | 08:08 |
thanatiel | yes, I've looked into all the files | 08:13 |
thanatiel | the issue happened after the last entry was printed (one from llvm) | 08:13 |
thanatiel | I don't know if there is something else outside of /etc/apt | 08:14 |
thanatiel | but I've grepped roundr recursively : nothing | 08:14 |
thanatiel | now that apt update worked, I've blocked packages.roundr.devuan.org and it still works. Maybe something was in a cache and got removed after it succeded? I cannot investigate further. Good day all. | 08:24 |
onefang | dev1galaxy.org is back. If it isn't for you, then you might have to wait for DNS propagation to you DNS server, or clearing out your INS cache. Coz the IP changed. | 09:05 |
* onefang repeats that with less typos. lol | 09:06 | |
onefang | dev1galaxy.org is back. If it isn't for you, then you might have to wait for DNS propagation to your DNS server, or clearing out your DNS cache. Coz the IP changed. | 09:06 |
user | anyone around? | 11:26 |
user | problems with beowulf and suspend/locking | 11:27 |
FlibberTGibbet | was looking in release notes for whatever's affecting reboot in beowulf/lightdm (afaik legacy boot mode here). can anyone advise why it sticks? appears to be just after acpdi halts during the shutdown part of reboot... | 13:36 |
fsmithred | FlibberTGibbet, is the system encrypted or using lvm? | 14:37 |
fsmithred | if so, install cryptsetup-modified-functions, which is currently in beowulf-proposed-updates | 14:38 |
* enyc meows | 16:23 | |
FlibberTGibbet | fsmithred: not so far as I know | 17:07 |
FlibberTGibbet | i certainly didn't set up encryption or lvm on install, just used fdisk to make an ext4 partition for boot and used the existing swap partition | 17:07 |
FlibberTGibbet | unless beowulf 'does a Mint' and defaults to encryption :) | 17:08 |
fsmithred | FlibberTGibbet, how are you calling the reboot? From the desktop menu/buttons, lightdm buttons, or terminal command? | 17:08 |
FlibberTGibbet | sudo shutdown -r now and the xfce logout menu | 17:08 |
fsmithred | Mint defaults to encryption?? Holy shit. | 17:08 |
fsmithred | and you have all the right 'kits? | 17:08 |
fsmithred | elogind or consolekit? | 17:09 |
FlibberTGibbet | it murdered my wife's data -- one day i ran an update after she'd changed passwords, they'd done something crucial to how encryption was handled, and i still haven't figured out the correct chroot procedure to restore her lost data :/ | 17:09 |
FlibberTGibbet | which is of the two is default on beowulf? | 17:10 |
fsmithred | usually elogind | 17:10 |
FlibberTGibbet | elogind is running as a service so that tallies | 17:10 |
fsmithred | there should also be libpam-elogind and libpolkit-*-elogind-* where the first star is gobject or backend (you need both) | 17:11 |
fsmithred | and policykit-1-gnome | 17:12 |
FlibberTGibbet | yup, all present and accounted for | 17:15 |
fsmithred | did you add a line to /etc/pam.d/lightdm-greeter? | 17:19 |
fsmithred | I thought that was just for the lightdm buttons, but maybe it's for desktop, too. | 17:19 |
fsmithred | not sure | 17:19 |
FlibberTGibbet | no, haven't done that. is it written up anywhere? | 17:23 |
fsmithred | release notes, but hang on | 17:23 |
fsmithred | session optional pam_elogind.so | 17:23 |
fsmithred | ^^^ add that line | 17:23 |
FlibberTGibbet | done. then logout, login and try rebooting again? | 17:25 |
fsmithred | you might need to reboot to get it to apply - or 'init 1' | 17:26 |
FlibberTGibbet | trying nowe | 17:27 |
FlibberTGibbet | s/nowe/now | 17:27 |
FlibberTGibbet | sadly the same old story | 17:29 |
fsmithred | I was afraid that would be the case | 17:30 |
FlibberTGibbet | thanks for trying though. did confirm with a quick peek at bios settings that it's booting in legacy mode | 17:30 |
fsmithred | it's very weird that it doesn't work from terminal | 17:30 |
fsmithred | shutdown command does not need all that kit stuff | 17:31 |
FlibberTGibbet | same result basically however I request a reboot | 17:31 |
fsmithred | was just gonna ask | 17:31 |
FlibberTGibbet | reboot / shutdown -r now / clicky-pointy-land | 17:31 |
FlibberTGibbet | nothing i can't live with, just odd that it worked under ascii and ascii->beowulf | 17:32 |
FlibberTGibbet | or however it'd been upgraded before | 17:33 |
fsmithred | I have had a few instances of shutdown (halt) doing all that it should except power off | 17:34 |
fsmithred | but not consistently | 17:34 |
FlibberTGibbet | good point. haven't tried that | 17:34 |
fsmithred | poweroff does work when I've used it | 17:34 |
FlibberTGibbet | that works. which is at least half a clean reboot :) | 17:35 |
fsmithred | lol | 17:35 |
fsmithred | which works, halt or poweroff? | 17:35 |
FlibberTGibbet | both, it seems | 17:35 |
fsmithred | huh, so it's just rebooting that's broken? | 17:36 |
FlibberTGibbet | yup | 17:36 |
fsmithred | wild guess: maybe something specific about that hardware | 17:36 |
fsmithred | maybe some acpi-related package is needed | 17:37 |
FlibberTGibbet | could be. although it was working until I borked the beowulf->capoeira update | 17:37 |
FlibberTGibbet | crimea | 17:37 |
FlibberTGibbet | whatevs | 17:37 |
fsmithred | oh, you're running chimaera? | 17:37 |
FlibberTGibbet | no, i tried and had so much cruft installed, half manually, that it fell over. so this is a beowulf installation onto a clean, formatted partition | 17:38 |
fsmithred | you took the default settings at the tasksel window? | 17:39 |
FlibberTGibbet | except for keyboard and locale :) | 17:39 |
fsmithred | yeah, I mean the desktop settings - you got xfce. Did you add lightdm after the initial install? | 17:39 |
FlibberTGibbet | yes | 17:39 |
FlibberTGibbet | ah. haven't purged slim yet, though lightdm is set as default. might that be getting in the way? | 17:40 |
fsmithred | not likely | 17:40 |
FlibberTGibbet | ok | 17:40 |
fsmithred | my beowulf with lightdm uses openbox, so I don't have any shutdown buttons | 17:41 |
FlibberTGibbet | travelling light :) | 17:41 |
fsmithred | oh, I'll try shutdown -r now | 17:41 |
fsmithred | I use sudo halt, sudo reboot | 17:41 |
FlibberTGibbet | ok | 17:41 |
fsmithred | this is just one of many test VMs | 17:41 |
FlibberTGibbet | right you are | 17:43 |
fsmithred | which? | 17:43 |
FlibberTGibbet | was just acknowledging that you're using one of the VMs | 17:44 |
FlibberTGibbet | guess it's time to start cooking dinner. thanks for the help fsmithred -- will see what I can find out | 17:47 |
fsmithred | yw | 17:47 |
fsmithred | good luck | 17:47 |
openbsdtai123 | hello, I have a sda1 with lilo running slackware, I would like to create a diretory on sda1 /devuan and to boot from chroot on /devuan, is it possible? I will run grub to boot it ? | 18:39 |
r3boot | openbsdtai123: create an extra filesystem, debootstrap devuan onto there, mount it under /devuan and off you go. Not really something that's supported tho :) | 18:40 |
openbsdtai123 | debootstrap done and all working. | 18:43 |
openbsdtai123 | But how can you tell grub that the system needs to start from /devuan over grub? | 18:43 |
openbsdtai123 | Please find my grub instllation.... | 18:43 |
r3boot | did you create a separate filesystem to install devuan on? | 18:44 |
openbsdtai123 | grub: http://openbsdtai123.scienceontheweb.net/grub/ | 18:44 |
openbsdtai123 | I have sda1 with slackware installed, but I would like my devuan on sda1 /devuan including the dev. | 18:44 |
openbsdtai123 | I konw that this is possible becasue it is being done on android for debian. | 18:44 |
r3boot | you need to install devuan on sda2, and then grub will find the install. | 18:45 |
r3boot | you could try to manually configure grub.cfg to detect the kernels under /devuan tho, see 40_custom for that (out of the top of my head) | 18:45 |
openbsdtai123 | sda2 is openbsd, I need to have /devuan on sda1 and run it from there usin gchroot CHROOT | 18:45 |
r3boot | not possible; It's either chroot + /devuan, or sdaX + grub | 18:48 |
r3boot | even if you manage to get the kernel to boot, the kernel wants a blockdevice as the root filesystem. And since slackware is on the root of that filesystem, it's gonna try to boot slackware; Chroot is functionality you have availabl /after/ you've booted your OS (or you need to modify the kernel, or pull a trick I dont know) | 18:49 |
openbsdtai123 | what is meaned by chroot + devuan, you mean you need to run first a linux and then to chroot it... ? | 18:49 |
r3boot | yes, exactly | 18:50 |
openbsdtai123 | ah I see | 18:50 |
openbsdtai123 | yeah it needs sbin init, etc... and all stuf. | 18:50 |
r3boot | yeah, that | 18:50 |
openbsdtai123 | Can the kernel be recompiled to have chroot? | 18:50 |
openbsdtai123 | did linus planned this? | 18:50 |
r3boot | not that I know of | 18:50 |
r3boot | is sda3 free? Maybe if you shrink sda1 and/or sda2 ? | 18:51 |
r3boot | b/c that is the most easy route | 18:51 |
r3boot | (another route is virtualization btw, especially if you're just trying out different os's) | 18:51 |
openbsdtai123 | sda1 slack, sda2 openbsd , and sd3/4 windows 8. I need however devuan from a harddisk (to have it fast). devuan runs way too slow on MMC and SD Sanedisk. | 18:54 |
openbsdtai123 | my grub and installatino is available at http://openbsdtai123.scienceontheweb.net/netbsd | 19:01 |
parabyte | im having a weird issue with wifi on my devuan box, im getting no errors on dmesg or any logs in /var/log. i am at a total loss for my problem | 23:02 |
parabyte | for example wifi sometimes wont connect with wicd and when it does i cant even ping my router | 23:02 |
parabyte | im getting given a ip by the router and route checks out fine for default route etc etc | 23:02 |
parabyte | anyone else had this issue? | 23:03 |
mason | parabyte: That can sometimes be external interference. If you sometimes connect unproblematically and nothing changes, I'd wonder about sources of radiation that might be getting into the fray. | 23:07 |
mason | parabyte: It might also be worth looking at your dhcp server's logs to see if anything shows up there. wifi can be persnickety. | 23:07 |
parabyte | mason, its a weird issue cause i sometimes dhcp works fine but i am still unable to ping my router, um can you suggest any logs i can tail -f and watch when the issues shows up again | 23:09 |
parabyte | i am using the laptop with the issue | 23:09 |
parabyte | the weirdest thing is the fault happens with an external usb adaptor too | 23:10 |
mason | parabyte: You'll see client logs from dhcp in /var/log/syslog. | 23:14 |
parabyte | yeah i looked at syslog first and its literally reporting no errors, but i will watch it closely see if this bug shows up, bug or hardware fault, but its doing it on my builtin pcie adaptor and my usb adaptor | 23:16 |
parabyte | just weird | 23:16 |
parabyte | and i am in a rural location | 23:16 |
gnarface | parabyte: make sure dhcp handshake is even finishing when that happens... i've had certain routers expose timing issues, but your initial description of the problem does strongly point to some sort of active or passive signal interference (most common sources aside from illegal jamming equipment are leaky microwave doors, air conditioning/refrigeration units with wiring faults, and just plain old spectrum crowding) | 23:17 |
parabyte | my access point is on channel 6 and the other access point nearby is channel 1 | 23:17 |
parabyte | i am using a huawei lte router that i do not have much faith in! | 23:17 |
gnarface | parabyte: one thing that might eliminate the suspicion of interference would be if you were to discover that the dhcp handshake in those cases was never actually completing, just initializing and timing out | 23:17 |
gnarface | parabyte: (or if you were to discover that the dhcp handshake completes and you can actually get a few pings through before it disconnects, that would split the odds 50:50) | 23:18 |
parabyte | yeah i was getting that behaviour of only a few pings then the interface just gave up and i got ping timeouts, or no pings at all to my default route, aka my router | 23:19 |
gnarface | parabyte: living in a rural area usually eliminates sources of spectrum crowding but only usually... i've been in a few rural areas in my day and the thing that stands out about rural areas is that they don't have a lot of FCC oversight either, so AM radio and power stations tend to frequently emit dangerous levels of RF for miles around for years at a time without anyone even noticing despite the anomalously high | 23:21 |
gnarface | cancer rates everyone blames on the water instead | 23:21 |
gnarface | parabyte: so also ask yourself how close the nearest substation and radio towers are... plug an unshielded RCA patch cable into a stereo does it go BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZT real loud? | 23:22 |
parabyte | gnarface, i live approx 4 miles as the bird flies from a major tv transmission station | 23:22 |
gnarface | and you have line of sight to it i suppose? | 23:22 |
parabyte | almost yes | 23:22 |
gnarface | do you have a basement? | 23:22 |
parabyte | no | 23:23 |
gnarface | i would be curious if the wifi signal would improve if you just had some dirt between you and the tower | 23:23 |
gnarface | still, it'd be odd for just one tv station to cause that type of interference unless something was really wrong there | 23:23 |
gnarface | got any other hardware to swap out to test with? | 23:23 |
parabyte | let me pastebin a small section of my syslog so you can see whats happening | 23:24 |
golinux | Faraday cage? | 23:24 |
gnarface | i did once run into a wifi router that just had minimum cpu requirements for connected clients | 23:24 |
mason | I'd tend not to think it's flaky hardware on the laptop side if you have two different devices doing the same thing. | 23:24 |
parabyte | dhcp is timing out when its not working | 23:24 |
mason | parabyte: But it's associated? | 23:24 |
parabyte | yeah | 23:24 |
parabyte | and also to the other access point nearby im getting the same issue | 23:24 |
parabyte | on internal wlan and external usb wlan | 23:24 |
gnarface | but i've also heard of bad wiring in old air conditioner units actually being able to cause the same amount of interference as military-grade radio-jamming tech | 23:25 |
gnarface | it's rare for it to keep working under those conditions but not unheard of | 23:25 |
mason | parabyte: Beowulf ships wavemon if you want to install that and give it a look. | 23:26 |
parabyte | https://pastebin.com/KkPr19Xh | 23:26 |
parabyte | gnarface, my issue only happens at random periods | 23:27 |
parabyte | right now i am connected with the builtin wlan on my laptop | 23:27 |
mason | parabyte: Can you use bpaste.net or termbin.com or something that's not going to throw a captcha at me to see your paste? :P | 23:27 |
parabyte | mason, thanks i will install wavemon | 23:27 |
parabyte | no problem mason | 23:27 |
parabyte | the paste does not really contain any useful information but you might see something i do not see | 23:27 |
parabyte | https://bpa.st/YW4Q | 23:28 |
mason | That does *seem* associated. | 23:28 |
mason | doesn't* | 23:29 |
parabyte | but if i look at iwconfig it says i am associated | 23:29 |
parabyte | thanks everyone for the suggestion, soon as the issue shows up again, ill fireup wavemon or airodump perhaps that will show me something interesting, | 23:34 |
parabyte | thanks gnarface and mason for your time | 23:34 |
parabyte | :) | 23:34 |
mason | parabyte: It's worth getting some healthy baseline from wavemon too. | 23:34 |
parabyte | this is my output from wavemon i did a screenshot easiest way for me to capture it | 23:37 |
parabyte | https://pasteall.org/media/a/f/af132be2e051b7e32f4c960db978dcbb.png | 23:37 |
mason | What's "hidden" there? | 23:37 |
parabyte | you mean the garbled display? | 23:38 |
mason | It's on the same channel as your Huawei. | 23:38 |
parabyte | oh the wifi | 23:38 |
parabyte | its the huawei router | 23:38 |
parabyte | i cant disable the hidden wifi! | 23:38 |
parabyte | i tried and also researched it online | 23:38 |
mason | It's odd to me that it would show up twice, once hidden. | 23:38 |
mason | And both on the same channel can't help. | 23:38 |
parabyte | they both have different bssid | 23:39 |
mason | Since we see 1 and 6, maybe reconfigure your access point to be way further up in channels. | 23:39 |
mason | They're running over each other now. | 23:39 |
parabyte | mason, ill do that now! i just thought channel 6 was far enough away from the other access point | 23:39 |
mason | Both are roughly equivalent signal strength, with the one you want a bit less. | 23:40 |
parabyte | ill be back in a bit im going to have a play with my router | 23:42 |
parabyte | Thanks for all the suggestions | 23:42 |
* gnarface has experienced both the leaky microwave scenario and the neighbors with illegal jamming equipment scenario | 23:45 |
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