libera/#devuan/ Friday, 2020-10-23

aarohey gys, i'm curios about something about command host, when you do 'host localhost', what you get, on debian you get 'Host localhost not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)', is it the same on devuan?01:01
syco-an entry in /etc/hosts ?01:03
ShorTiei get  localhost has address 127.0.0.101:18
fsmithred me too. on debian and devuan.01:18
gnarfaceaaro: localhost is normally defined in /etc/hosts unless you did something wrong.  it is easy to recreate by hand, luckily.  (mine reports the ipv4 and ipv6 addresses for localhost)03:42
gnarfaceaaro: a properly configured bind9 server will also define it by default, and NSS will by default query DNS immediately after the hosts file, so that's one possible reason this may have changed recently without you changing the hosts file03:45
gnarfaceaaro: (another reason i think is if you skip networking configuration during the install and no network devices were detected)03:45
syco-i guess sytemd f****k things up again ?03:50
vielreichmade your area like quebec and speak german, in the frontier méxico with texas,the flag is in the frontier, in horizont orange  almost dark like brick in up, in half gray aluminum, and in down blue sky day,  with letter L red shinning  thick, no very thick just 1 cm and 4 mm with red fire in the right side in line like shadow the same red shinnig 9 mm right,  at the left side 1 mm of shadow,03:53
vielreichand in down 3 mm of shadow red shinnig all the shadows stiked at the L  the L no with waves in line 9 mm of fire 1 left and 3 in down , the L  in the center of the new german flag occupying the entire gray strip with the shadow, the name is Deutcsh, coin deutsches. let the giants play baskectball with the browns.learn german  https://app.memrise.com/course/920/5000-german-words-top-87/1/ copy03:53
vielreichthe adress of the page, and paste somewhere, for read it later, go at the bookseller and ask for the diccionary english german and read it verbatim,03:53
gnarfacesyco-: oh, if it was an upgrade yea something might have gotten removed that shouldn't have.  it should still be easy to put back though.03:57
gnarfaceaaro: here, example file: https://paste.debian.net/1168342/03:58
gnarfaceaaro: (add your own hostname to that, the rest can be used as-is )03:58
syco-depending on the distro:04:01
syco-mike@freak:~/Desktop/tmp$ cat /etc/resolv.conf04:01
syco-# This file is managed by man:systemd-resolved(8). Do not edit.04:01
syco-nameserver 127.0.0.5304:01
syco-i really hate that poettering as***le04:02
golinuxThis is a support channel not a venting channel04:06
Xenguysyco-: You can chattr -i the file; that's one (blunt) responce04:30
Xenguy*response04:30
joybukeHowdy there, trying to get calamares working for my live ISO but theres no good documentation on it, can anyone help?04:48
syco-Xenguy, yes i know .. that's what i usually do04:50
gnarfacejoybuke: usually you just install the package and then look in /usr/share/doc/[package name] if there are no man pages04:50
gnarfacejoybuke: you'll have to configure networking first probably04:51
gnarfacejoybuke: (unless it was already installed)04:51
joybukejust a changelog in here04:51
gnarfacejoybuke: dpkg -L calamares04:52
gnarfaceit might have man pages, also check calamares-settings-debian04:52
gnarfacealso check "apt-cache search ^calamares" if you have networking up04:52
gnarfacejoybuke: if it's an exceptionally shitty package, you might have to resort to going to their official homepage which is listed as https://github.com/calamares/calamares currently04:53
gnarfaceusually important stuff doesn't make it into stable with zero documentation.  sometimes the documentation is packaged separately though.04:54
n4dirjoybuke: and you do know refractainstaller? Which does the job and is straight forward04:55
gnarfaceyea, that one is well known around here and maintained here, so it might make a better choice04:56
joybukerefractainstaller uses what shell again?04:56
joybukewas getting shell errors with it when I ran it04:56
n4dirgotta say that i never heard of calamares before (but then: not that often of refractainstaller either ...)04:56
n4dirshould be bash04:57
joybukethink I got it from the wrong source then04:59
n4dirmight be wrong, and refractainstaller now has quite a long history, but i think back then the main idea was really to just rsync the whole shebang to hard-disk. Then slowly more fancy stuff was added.  So in theory you could "rewrite".05:00
n4dirbut i am not the right person to ask about the most minimal version ...05:00
joybukegorcha05:00
joybuke*gotcha05:00
gnarfacejoybuke: it should be in the repo05:00
joybukeyeah just figured that one out05:00
n4dirsaying nothing against calamares, btw. It was just a hint05:00
gnarfacei don't know anything about calamares either, but after literal decades of experience i've learned there are few better measures of a project's quality than the quality of its documentation05:01
gnarfaceand if there isn't any... well it's infantile, basically05:01
gnarfacebut if there is and it's just not in the package, that's actually probably a reportable bug05:02
gnarface(not here though, upstream at debian)05:02
joybukegetting refractainstaller set up05:05
joybukeno documentation is a no go for me05:05
aarognarface: it's weird, host localhost give me that error, but any network tool find it without problems ie ping localhost resolves it05:37
aarognarface: i'm trying to understand why 'host' behaves different in debian and devuan05:42
rrq'host' uses /etc/resolv.conf to determine which namserver(s) there are, then it queries them; it does not look at /etc/hosts06:14
rrqmost other programs do06:14
aarorrq: hmm yeah that's what i have found on my research too, yet the question then would be why devuan 'host' resolves localhost succesfully06:21
gnarfaceaaro: sanity check your /etc/nsswitch.conf06:22
gnarfaceaaro: the presence or absence of the "resolvconf" package can also affect this functionality i believe (at least effects where it looks for names)06:22
gnarfaceaffect/effect, not sure which one is the right one there06:23
aarognarface: you think 'host' searches in /etc/hosts file, but all docs say it doesn't06:23
gnarfaceaaro: it's true that i think that but whether i'm right or wrong doesn't change the fact i've also given you all the information necessary to deductively conclude the truth for yourself06:24
gnarfaceaaro: it's possible there's a 3rd variable you have overlooked here, and it's possible the documentation is only right for certain installs, *and* it's possible you found a bug... and none of those are mutually exclusive, either06:26
gnarfaceaaro: what i can tell you for sure though is not being able to resolve localhost one way or another is going to cripple your system06:26
gnarfaceaaro: so that's the part you should address primarily, the rest is academic06:27
gnarfaceand yea i ping or nslookup more often.06:28
gnarfacei sometimes use dig, but almost never host, unless i'm trying to debug nslookup (which is strikingly more reliable)06:29
aarognarface: this is purely academic curiosity :), thanks for all you hints on this06:29
gnarfaceaaro: if you find out what's actually the cause, let me know06:29
gnarfaceaaro: you said this was an up-to-date beowulf system?06:32
gnarfaceor ascii still?06:32
aarognarface: so far i've found that host seems to look in /etc/hosts file only on devuan, tried debian and freebsd and those don't do it06:32
gnarfaceaaro: are you sure it's actually looking in there though and it's not your DNS server actually responding for localhost?07:25
rrq+107:57
aarognarface: sadly i have not access to a devuan system right now, only basing this on other devuan users (including you) that have told me that's the case on devuan, you tell me, do you a have a dns server with an entry for localhost?07:58
rrqaaro: probably the difference between devuan and debian is in the handling of "domain-less" dns queries08:06
gnarfaceaaro: i thought we were going on your observations of the host tool on your devuan install.  yes, my local DNS server also resolves localhost.  the default bind9 configuration does.  i think it is actually non-standard not to.  i wouldn't be surprised about hearing systemd absorbed the /etc/hosts file though.08:31
aarognarface: hmm interesting, i think this is getting to a conclusion then08:44
aaroi bet the other devuan user (from another channel) also had a dns server answering for localhost queries08:48
aarothanks gnarface and rrq and sorry for all the bother on this08:49
gnarfaceno worries, it's fine you're trying to get to the bottom of it08:49
gnarfaceand yea as someone else mentioned earlier, there is also probably a difference between qualified and unqualified hostnames when you do the lookups08:52
gnarfaceand that might change from tool to tool, and by your dns, dhcp, or static hosts configuration as well08:52
gnarface(note that the debian/devuan tools don't define a domain by default for localhost, that's something i threw in my example that i inherited from an older redhat install, and i left it there because sometimes it routes around rare bugs)08:53
xrogaanSo, what's wrong with thunderbird's GPG?12:38
xinomiloenigmail became obsolete in tb78+12:40
gnarfaceis there something new wrong, or did you just run into the issue with self-signed certs?12:40
xrogaanI'm reading the mailing list, somebody allege that there are some issues. I'm curious as what they are.12:41
gnarfacewell the thing i noticed was that it couldn't accept self-signed certs because it couldn't fetch them, because of some catch-22 about needing them to fetch themselves on a port other than the standard https port12:42
gnarface(basically it looks like they globally applied a firefox fix that broke standard mail behavior)12:43
xrogaanAnd there is something about duplicate keyrings?12:43
gnarfacebut if you go into the cert manager and find your CA authority listing and enable the checkbox for allowing it to authenticate web pages as well, then it magically works12:43
gnarfaceoh, i haven't heard anything about duplicate keyrings, that must be some other problem12:44
xrogaanI have one key for 2 emails, thunderbird can't handle that.12:45
gnarfaceare you sure really?12:45
xrogaanTells me it's an uncertain signature.12:46
gnarfaceseems weird but i can't say i've tried that, i have 2 keys for 1 email12:46
xrogaanI don't know how to setup "alternate identities".12:46
gnarfacei think that's your outbound mail servers12:46
xrogaanI mean, it worked fine with enigmail.12:47
gnarfaceoh12:48
gnarfaceaccount identities are just accounts12:48
gnarfaceaccount settings-> account actions -> add mail account12:48
xrogaanyes12:48
gnarfaceyou get 1 identity and 1 inbound server for each account, however there is a separate list of outbound servers that you can mix & match from12:49
gnarfaceyou can have separate keys for inbound and outbound servers12:49
xrogaanusing seahorse, you can add new "names / emails" to a key. Which makes it valid to be used for each email.12:49
gnarfaceand you can't just do the same thing in thunderbird by adding multiple accounts and using the same key for all of them?12:50
gnarfacei think even though the interface conceptualizes it differently that's still effectively the same thing, no?12:50
xrogaanNo, because the key already exists within thunderbird.12:51
r3boot2112:51
xrogaantry to add a key, you can't select from an already managed key either. All you can do is import or generate a new key.12:52
gnarfacemaybe we are getting GPG and SSL keys confused12:53
xrogaanEnd-To-End Encryption.12:53
xrogaanThe OpenPGP thing.12:53
xrogaanwhich you use to sign and encrypt emails.12:54
gnarfaceyea i gotcha12:54
gnarfaceit might still be considered a security change12:54
gnarfaceit's not so hard to generate new keys is it?12:55
xrogaanYeah, security, like how they prevented me from using other software during the enigmail import.12:55
xrogaan"security" isn't security if it keeps people from using your software.12:55
gnarfaceindeed12:55
xrogaanI'm gonna try evolution.12:55
xrogaanThunderbird doesn't use the system's keyring: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Thunderbird:OpenPGP:Migration-From-Enigmail#GnuPG_vs._RNP_and_key_storage12:56
r3bootUnder Linux, the only proper mailer I've found is mutt12:56
r3bootthunderbird + evolution dont scale with large mailboxes, for starters12:56
r3boot(where large == > 250000 mails)12:56
xrogaanI'm too lazy to setup different profiles within mutt12:59
xrogaanRight, thunderbird will not validate an email signed and received from the mailing list because it wasn't "sent" by the right email address.13:01
fsmithredIt seems like enigmail stops working periodically. That's been my observation for a few years.13:01
fsmithredI recently installed claws just so I could send an encrypted email.13:01
xrogaandng@lists.dyne.org isn't the right email.13:01
xrogaanThus all signed emails sent on the ML will not be validated by thunderbird.13:01
xrogaanBy the beard of Odin. Thunderbird as an "identities" feature where you add the stuff to an already existing account.13:03
gnarfacedoes it work?13:04
xrogaanno.13:06
xrogaanissue is with how the keys are handled. I probably need a new key.13:06
xrogaanEvolution it is!13:06
xrogaanfsmithred: could you expand on "stops working"?13:08
fsmithredI think it stops installing13:09
fsmithredt'bird gets upgraded and enigmail lags behind13:09
fsmithredtalking months/years, not days/weeks13:09
xrogaanoh, yeah. Enigmail update itself and only available to migrate.13:09
xinomiloapt remove enigmail, install from addons site within TB (xpi)13:27
fylgjeCan it be that there are a mistake in i386 repositories?, when I do an apt update, I get <<main/binary-1386/Packages>> are being omitted because repository «http://deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf InRelease» does not admit <<1386>> architecture (free translation from Spanish).I think someone changed "i386" for "1386".13:56
fylgjeSorry, I think it's error in my side.14:05
xrogaan1386 -> i38614:12
clortthomascovenant_: +ï18:52
joybukeHowdy there, im back again. Still getting an installer set up for my respin of devuan and am having some trouble with refractainstaller. I install a system onto it but it does not boot. I think its an issue of GRUB but I do not know if theres a good way to tell if its that20:30
fsmithredjoybuke, tell me about the system. bios or uefi?20:32
joybukeIIRC QEMU uses BIOS20:33
fsmithredunless you do some special things, yeah20:33
fsmithredwhat happens when you try to boot?20:33
joybukesea bios is stuck on loading from hard disk20:33
fsmithredboot the iso to examine the disk and to reinstall grub20:34
fsmithredwhat iso are you using?20:35
joybukecustom built one20:35
joybukeusing linux Respin to build it20:35
fsmithredit's beowulf based?20:35
joybukeyes20:36
fsmithredgui or cli installer?20:37
joybukeim pretty sure im using the gui installer on refractainstaller, its the one that looks similar to the non-graphical Devuan installer.20:38
fsmithred???20:39
fsmithredthat does not compute20:39
suavedandyGuys. Can I clarify again why I need to install acpi-support? Can't you just configure elogind?20:39
fsmithredthe gui installer uses yad (like zenity) for a frontend. You use a mouse to control it.20:39
suavedandyLike, elogind has a config for that.20:40
joybukeaha im new to all, sorry20:40
fsmithredthe cli installer runs in a terminal. You have to type the device names.20:40
syco-ncurses vs graphical i think20:40
fsmithredif you see blue ncurses, then you are not running refractainstaller.20:40
joybukethink its similar to ncurses, being a graphical terminal interfact?20:40
fsmithredoh20:40
joybukestrange20:40
joybukethink its similar to ncurses, being a graphical terminal interface?20:40
fsmithredyou will see that for tzdata, keyboard, locale settings20:40
fsmithredin both installers20:41
suavedandyncurses is simple ASCII interface.20:41
suavedandyThe one Ly uses.20:41
joybukeohhh. Yes you do input disk locations20:41
fsmithredok20:41
joybukeand it asks what type of diskmanagement software you want20:41
fsmithredcli installer20:41
fsmithredcool20:41
suavedandyStill find it funny that the name of Ly is a reference to Rayman.20:41
suavedandyThat's very epic.20:41
joybukerebuilding my ISO right now with a couple new packages for user friendly disk management to help with the install process. Will give better representation and descriptions of the problems once thats done.20:43
fsmithredgparted?20:44
joybukeyup20:44
joybukehaving a graphical view of the disks in percentages is too nice, don't think there's a terminal equiv. out there, but i'd prefer it.20:45
fsmithredkdiskfree20:46
fsmithredk as in kde20:47
fsmithrednot sure if it still exists20:47
fsmithredare you running the installer now?20:48
fsmithredoh, you already said you're building iso20:49
joybukeI can again, was waiting for the ISO build to finish20:49
fsmithredyou gonna install the new iso?20:49
joybukeyes20:49
fsmithredor do you just want to fix grub?20:49
fsmithredok20:49
joybukeI just want to fix installing and then start customizing further since that's pretty important20:50
fsmithredthere was a bug in the gui script (or maybe a bug in grub) where it didn't install the bootloader. But that problem was not in the cli script.20:51
joybukemaybe its just a user error20:51
joybukedoes GRUB need its own partition?20:51
fsmithredcould be20:51
joybukeon BIOS?20:51
fsmithredonly if you are doing bios boot with gpt partition table20:51
joybukewell then there lies my issue20:52
fsmithredah20:52
joybukewas trying to get it to boot from root's /boot20:52
fsmithredeither use msdos table or add another partition20:52
fsmithredyeah, that should be fine, even if it's encrypted20:52
fsmithredbut if gpt, you need a bios_boot or bios_grub partition20:53
fsmithredgparted uses one of those names20:53
joybukewould there be any issue with msdos partitions compared to gpt?20:53
fsmithredother than that, no. Just that gpt lets you make a lot more primary partitions20:53
joybukewhat one is easier for dualbooting? I know many of the people I would give this to would be interested in that20:54
fsmithredbios_grub partition must be at least 1MB and not formatted (no filesystem on it)20:54
joybukeit can't be formatted?20:54
fsmithredthere's an 'unformatted' option in gparted20:54
joybukeaaaaaah20:54
fsmithredlast one in the list of fs types20:54
fsmithredthen change the flag to bios_grub or whatever it's called20:55
fsmithredin gdisk it's type ef0220:55
joybukerecall reading that somewhere, maybe was in the installer and I skimmed that20:55
fsmithredif you're installing linux into a dual boot with windows, you will be installing linux AFTER windows20:56
fsmithredso you won't be changing the partition table20:56
joybukewell yeah, I know Windows hates working with other partitions20:56
joybukefor anyone trying to dualboot, does the script handle that or will some funky stuff need to be done by the end user?20:56
fsmithredif you change the partition table type, you will lose all the data on the disk20:57
fsmithreduser has to create a partition. On a win box, go into windows to shrink a partition, then boot into linux to create a linux partition in the empty space20:57
fsmithredI think you could use gparted to shrink the win partition, but I prefer to use the native tools. Old habit from when it made a difference.20:58
joybukeyeah I remember doing that early on, so just target that new partition to install the OS and GRUB and it should all be fine20:58
fsmithredyup20:59
joybukeneato, will write that in my documentation when all this is done20:59
fsmithredif your friends are using uefi, you will have to make a few changes20:59
fsmithredwell, you'll have to install grub-efi-amd6421:00
fsmithredand probably need the signed version for secure boot21:00
joybukedoes grub-efi-amd64 come default installed on the desktop version of the ISO21:02
joybukeused it instead of the others because my poor internet connection21:02
fsmithredyes21:02
joybukeneat, issues solves itself21:02
fsmithredand the grub-pc deb package is in the iso21:02
fsmithredand the installer will recognize a non-uefi boot and ask if you want to install the grub-pc package21:03
fsmithredor you could install grub-pc before running the installer.21:03
joybukesweet21:03
fsmithredjust don't let it install the bootloader until you're actually installing the system.21:04
fsmithredotherwise it sees the live-usb and includes that system in the boot menu.21:04
fsmithredyou say sweet, but I think it's klunky.21:05
fsmithredbut I think it's better than having separate isos for bios and uefi21:05
joybukeah I just say sweet as a form of "acknowledged"21:06
fsmithredI'll bet there are things that you acknowledge for which you don't use that term.21:06
joybukebut doesn't seem like an issue so long as whatever installs bootloader is activated/installed once you get it in (or I sound like a moron)21:07
fsmithredIt's your turn to clean the bathroom.21:07
joybukeahahaha21:07
joybukethat gets a damnit from me,  but people know what I mean21:07
fsmithredyeah, it should work.21:07
fsmithredit stopped working in the gui script because the grub package stopped running the install dialogue when you installed the deb package.21:08
joybukesounds annoying21:08
fsmithredand in some previous version, it started doing that. For the latest fix, I only had to uncomment one line that I had commented out for the previous change.21:08
fsmithredI can't keep up with all this shit.21:09
joybukegod now imagine managing some multi-thousand line projects21:09
joybukeIm a hobbyer myself, but eventually when (or more so if) I get into the field im fearing the spaghetti code disasters im going to have to gawk at21:10
joybukeI got it all set up in Gparted: sda1 : 2 MiB : bios_grub | sda2 : 20 GiB : No Flags.21:11
joybukethis seem good?21:11
fsmithredyeah21:12
joybukesda1 is formatted to cleared and sda2 to ext421:12
fsmithredthe script will format sda2 again unless you set the config file to no_format=yes21:13
fsmithredit won't change sda121:13
fsmithredunless you screw up and try to install the OS there21:13
fsmithredyou'll find out real fast if you do that.21:13
joybukeeh whatever, if it reformats it or not doesn't matter since this is just a test to see what the install process is like21:13
joybukeI doubt this 2 Gig OS is going to fit on a 2 mib partition21:14
joybukesomething tells me that isn't gonna work21:14
fsmithredrsync would run for a couple seconds21:14
fsmithredstill building iso?21:15
joybukenah im well into installing21:15
fsmithredoh, ok21:15
joybukethe process is happening now21:15
fsmithredI want to go outside, but I'll wait a few minutes for you to get to the grub screen21:16
joybukeaye thanks man, if it doesn't work don't fret since I got classes in a bit and will be on later21:16
fsmithredit already asked you where to put the bootloader?21:16
joybukeyup, told it /dev/sda121:16
fsmithredah21:17
fsmithredthat won't work21:17
fsmithredtell it /dev/sda21:17
joybukedamnit21:17
joybukeit was a gpt part21:17
joybukeor file system21:17
fsmithreddoesn't matter21:17
joybukedamn21:17
fsmithredyou don't need to tell it anything about that special partition21:17
fsmithredthe flag is enough so grub knows what to do with it21:17
joybukewell man, I guess I will quickly reinstall it and get this fixed21:18
joybukegotta head out to class anyways21:18
fsmithredI have to say, that was a logical mistake to make21:18
joybukethanks man, been a real life saver with this21:18
joybukewill talk to ya later if I run into some issues (or get this thing working)21:18
fsmithredI need to add "don't do that" to the readme21:18
fsmithredok, have fun21:18
joybukethanks man, take care21:18
brocashelmyoutube-dl repository got taken down on github for dmca: https://github.com/ytdl-org/youtube-dl/21:27
brocashelmcensorship strikes again21:28
syco-argh21:28
brocashelmfucking bullshit, and no, not taking this to ot. software freedom is under attack yet again21:29
brocashelmi hope this claim gets reversed21:29
brocashelmytdl has helped my sanity so i don't have to put up with google/youtube ui bloatware, plus the possibility of 1:1 archival quality from source21:30
syco-has actually nothing to do with dmca21:30
clorti don't get it, doesn't youtube-dl use a google-issued api key they can revoke whenever they want?21:30
fsmithredWTF??21:31
brocashelmyeah, i'm just saying what i'm reading on the page21:31
fsmithred2020-10-23 15:31:32 ERROR 451: Unavailable for Legal Reasons.21:31
fsmithredthat's the output of my update script21:32
clortwell pretty much anyone can issue dcma takedown and companies have to be quick about removing while it's resolved and/or challenged, afaik21:32
brocashelmi use youtube-dl -U and it said it won't update21:32
syco-wow .. first time i see ERROR 45121:32
fsmithredoh, I didn't know about -U21:32
clortso i doubt this was from youtube itself21:33
fsmithredthat is bullshit. There's plenty of legal stuff you can download.21:34
brocashelmand it's not just youtube, but using other video platforms21:34
brocashelmhttps://distfiles.macports.org/youtube-dl/21:35
brocashelmfound this at least21:35
clorti think they can find another place to host a few kilobytes of python21:35
r3bootdamn, the MAFIAA strikes again21:44
fsmithredbrocashelm, that works. I just got the latest tarball and it contains a youtube-dl binary that works.21:44
brocashelmnice21:44
clortare they compiling it to c now?21:45
brocashelmsomeone from #mpv forked git: https://haasn.xyz/ytdl.git mirrored 48c5663c5 (dated 2020-10-22 19:15) here21:45
brocashelmtemp solution: git clone https://haasn.xyz/ytdl.git/21:50
masonOh, that's incredibly obnoxious about youtube-dl.22:01
brocashelmyup22:02
n4dirobnoxious. What a word. Like a threat.22:02
brocashelmi did what fsmithred did with the latest tarball and copying the binary in the root path (to /usr/local/bin, where the binary already was)22:02
fsmithredI also cloned the git repo and built the package22:03
fsmithredhad to install pandoc and then just run 'make'22:03
brocashelmah22:03
fsmithredand it works.22:03
fsmithredand then it occurred to me that I probably should not have done that without someone looking at the code.22:04
fsmithredso I might now be owned by the MAFIAA22:04
brocashelmoh shit22:04
masonfsmithred: You can always diff against the source of the Debian package to find obvious things.22:05
fsmithredok, I could diff the binaries I have22:05
masonBetter to diff the source.22:05
fsmithredthe source was removed, wasn't it?22:06
fsmithredI didn't clone the original git22:07
masonSame. Really wish I had.22:07
masonThat newer link appears not to exist.22:07
masonOh, no, my bad. It works.22:07
brocashelmwhich? the haasn.xyz one?22:07
masonYeah, But it's good.22:07
brocashelmyeah, gotta do the git clone approach22:07
fsmithredyou can clone it, but you can't get to it with browser22:07
masonThat was it.22:08
fsmithredbinary files differe22:09
n4dirno frenche here !22:09
brocashelmso we are hax0red then22:09
brocashelmit's over22:09
fsmithredsorry22:09
brocashelmlet's try archive.org solution22:10
brocashelmwtf, did it get deleted even from there?22:11
brocashelmoh, never mind22:11
brocashelmwrong search box (the bottom one)22:11
brocashelmhttps://web.archive.org/web/20201018144703/https://github.com/ytdl-org/youtube-dl22:11
fsmithredhow to download that?22:14
fsmithredI tried download the zip and it redirects to github22:14
brocashelmi got it to work22:15
nemofsmithred: weird thing is, a lot of youtube is easily downloadable in firefox, without even any config changes22:15
nemoer22:15
nemoany extensions22:15
brocashelmit redirected me (or click impatient)22:15
nemodoes require a few about:config changes22:15
brocashelmhttps://web.archive.org/web/20201018130325/https://codeload.github.com/ytdl-org/youtube-dl/zip/master22:16
fsmithrednemo, I usually do download through browser22:16
masonbrocashelm: good catch22:16
nemofsmithred: it might even be possible to do it in the new annoying firefox on android - at least the fdroid one that doesn't block about:config22:16
nemobut haven't tested22:16
nemogotta see what disabling mediastream and right click context do on that one22:17
fsmithredI think I use youtube-download-helper or something like that22:17
nemofsmithred: firefox on android blocked most addons. I'm seriously pissed at them22:17
fsmithredandroid is a serial rapist22:18
nemono more Stylus, no more Old Reddit, no more tampermonkey.22:18
nemono more umatrix22:18
fsmithredVideo DownloadHelper22:19
fsmithredbrocashelm, damn, you're good.22:24
fsmithredtwo python scripts differe22:24
fsmithreddiffeR22:24
fsmithreda couple of url changes and what looks like typo changes. Minor stuff.22:25
brocashelmif all it takes is to blacklist those named "artists" on the claim and the like, then i'd be 101% on board with it since the world could do with less of that garbage22:32
masonAgreed.22:34
brocashelm;)22:34
coniferhi all, i'm looking for either an advice how to complain to upstream, or a software recommendation22:38
coniferbefore i upgraded to beowulf i was using gtkhash in hmac mode as a password generator22:39
coniferbut version gtkhash version 1.2-1 that beowulf uses has a regression22:39
coniferi.e. some ciphers no longer work in hmac mode22:40
brocashelmdevuan forks 200-ish packages from debian to remove systemd dependencies and the rest is straight from debian (using merged repo)22:40
coniferwhich screwed me up a bit22:40
coniferyeah, i know22:41
coniferthe thing is, i either need another program to calculate my hmac-based passwords22:41
hagbard_Well, report a bug to debian, or compile the most recent version from upstream, and report to them.22:41
brocashelm^22:41
coniferor to complain to someone to bring back this function to gtkhash22:42
brocashelmletting debian's devs know is the correct answer22:42
coniferthe thing is: this used to work in v0.7.0-4 (so, debian & devuan oldstable), now it ceased to work in v1.2-1 (current stable)22:43
coniferis reporting to debian devs/maintainers enough/22:44
conifer?22:44
brocashelmyes, since they could issue a new build for buster, hence beowulf gets it22:44
hagbard_just post a bug to the bugtracker22:44
coniferor should i rather but the gtkhash original devs, who removed the function i used to use?22:44
conifer*bug22:45
brocashelmyou could also do that22:45
conifershould i use the reportbug program, or will my report go to devuan?23:04
brocashelmlooks like both23:06
brocashelmit's one of the devuan forks23:06
brocashelmso both devuan and debian will get your report23:07
fsmithredI don't recall if it even works. You might need to use it to generate the report and then send it manually through email.23:12
brocashelmuhhh, is curl and wget also affected?23:18
masonbrocashelm: Only in the capitalist dream.23:19
brocashelmnever mind, i thought those also got dmca'd23:21
brocashelmjust found this: https://github.com/marzzzello/youtube-dl23:27
fsmithredthey missed one?23:36
brocashelmlast commit was seven hours ago23:36
brocashelmi have not cloned the repo23:36
fsmithredI just did23:38
fsmithredThat's the same as the other one you linked except for a couple changes in the readme23:40
fsmithredThis other one: https://haasn.xyz/ytdl.git/23:41
brocashelmyeah, these are going to be spread out for a while until ytdl team responds23:42
fsmithredthat last repo has 744 contributors?!!23:43
brocashelmi think it's because it's a complete copy of the github repo, if you go back to that archive.org url i linked23:45
brocashelmhttps://web.archive.org/web/20201018144703/https://github.com/ytdl-org/youtube-dl23:45
brocashelmthis one has 76523:45
brocashelmsort of the way github works (i don't use it)23:45
MontresorMost people are linking https://git.osuv.de/star/youtube-dl.git actually.23:46
brocashelmcool, thanks23:46
brocashelmwonder if someone's hosting it on an onion url23:46

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