| fsmithred | need to go to the kitchen. bbl. | 00:00 |
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| suavedandy | I'll go get some sleep. Will wrap everything up after I wake up. | 00:05 |
| Xenguy | Does anyone happen to know if zsh typically gets installed by default? | 00:25 |
| Xenguy | Right now I'm getting this: | 00:26 |
| Xenguy | The following packages have been kept back: | 00:26 |
| Xenguy | zsh-common | 00:26 |
| Xenguy | If I try to install zsh-common, then it wants to remove zsh, strangely enough... | 00:27 |
| Xenguy | This is on Ascii | 00:27 |
| gnarface | i assume no | 00:29 |
| gnarface | because the stock kernel doesn't support it, and there are license issues | 00:29 |
| gnarface | wait, sorry | 00:29 |
| fsmithred | zsh not zfs. I did the same thing | 00:30 |
| gnarface | i did that last time too | 00:30 |
| gnarface | sigh | 00:30 |
| gnarface | but the answer is the same anyway | 00:30 |
| fsmithred | blame mason for talking about zfs. | 00:30 |
| gnarface | zsh won't be installed by default, the default is bash unless you tell it to be dash | 00:30 |
| gnarface | other options have to be manually configured&installed | 00:30 |
| gnarface | eh, there might be some cases where you can get busybox too | 00:31 |
| Xenguy | Thanks folks, I think I'll just uninstall zsh, since I use bash | 00:31 |
| fsmithred | I have zsh and zsh-common | 00:31 |
| gnarface | lots of people like zsh, i wouldn't knock it, but if you're not using it, you won't miss it | 00:31 |
| fsmithred | 5.7.1-1 in beowulf | 00:31 |
| fsmithred | and I only have it because live-sdk uses it | 00:32 |
| Xenguy | zsh sounds pretty good, but I prefer to just stick with the default shell | 00:32 |
| gnarface | i can't see it installed anywhere here | 00:32 |
| Xenguy | This is Ascii, FWIW | 00:32 |
| Xenguy | I may have installed it myself, and just forgot I did | 00:32 |
| fsmithred | I have both on ascii, too, but they are not the same version | 00:33 |
| fsmithred | I don't have the newest version. | 00:34 |
| danuan | trying to autorun a script in runlevel1 without logging in the console , trough an init.d script but anything after rc1.d/S02single does not seem to run after it switches actual runlevels | 00:34 |
| fsmithred | zsh depends on zsh-common, so you should be able to install both | 00:34 |
| Xenguy | There, that's that issue dealt with, and I just increased my disk space by 15Mb ; -) | 00:35 |
| fsmithred | oh | 00:35 |
| Xenguy | Or rather, saved myself 15Mb of space | 00:36 |
| rrq | IanJ: https://pkginfo.devuan.org/cgi-bin/debtree-query.xml?q=xorg shows cpp a dependency for x11 via x11-xserver-utils | 01:56 |
| rrq | .. for xorg via .. | 01:57 |
| FatPhil | What does it mean when my /var/log/btmp is continually growing? There are no messages appearing in any other file under /var/log | 02:07 |
| FatPhil | lastb shows a seeming infinitude of: root ssh:notty 106.54.139.117 Wed Dec 2 03:06 - 03:06 (00:00) | 02:08 |
| FatPhil | root ssh:notty 49.71.133.125 Wed Dec 2 03:06 - 03:06 (00:00) | 02:08 |
| FatPhil | Ah, one reason other log files may not be showing anything is that perhaps after /var filled with btmp, log rotation got all confused. | 02:09 |
| IanJ | rrq: Thank you for the reply. But I'm really not understanding why it would be a dependency for any of those things. It must be a mistake? | 02:24 |
| IanJ | If you were building from source I could understand it, but not for binary packages. | 02:26 |
| rrq | presumably there's some utility using cpp for it's input/configuration file(s) | 02:26 |
| rrq | eg xrdb | 02:27 |
| IanJ | would that need a c pre processor? | 02:28 |
| rrq | well cpp offers a macro language; I suppose originally developed for use in C, but it's its own langauge | 02:34 |
| rrq | not sure it's Turing complete, but reasnably clean and easy for some purposes | 02:35 |
| rrq | when you want to go macro language crazy, you'll use m4 | 02:39 |
| * tuxd3v tuxd3v still remember the good old days with the m4 + sendmail.. :) | 02:42 | |
| FatPhil | Ahhhh - as soon as I get logging working again, fail2ban kicks in rather swiftly. | 02:43 |
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