| phillipsjk | If I try to install rocm on devuan (Beowulf, so may need backports or something), am I wasting my time? | 01:22 |
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| phillipsjk | I am thinking of installing Ubuntu LTS on a USB stick anyway since I am using the poorly tested VEGA 10 on PCIe 2.0 (they really want you to use PCIe 3.0). | 01:25 |
| phillipsjk | Since it is open source, I wonder if I can in theory compile it for the current kernel in devuan. | 01:40 |
| fsmithred | rocm? | 01:47 |
| fsmithred | AMD ROCm System Management Interface ? | 01:48 |
| fsmithred | rocm-smi and rocminfo are in debian experimental | 01:50 |
| fsmithred | if they don't need systemd, they should work the same in devuan | 01:50 |
| fsmithred | phillipsjk, ^^^ | 01:51 |
| systemdlete | fsmithred: Thank you for alerting me to that -- I did not even think of that. I will keep that in my hat for the future. However, in this case, the partitions are not encrypted. | 02:52 |
| systemdlete | I wish that os-prober had a tracing or debugging option so I could see what it is trying and maybe get a sense of what is going wrong. | 02:52 |
| gnarface | giant memory leak suspected in the latest ceres mesa, just warning everyone | 02:54 |
| gnarface | (sorry if i'm a month late) | 02:54 |
| systemdlete | hmmm. giant memory leak in mesa... does firefox, by and by, use mesa? Does mate use mesa? | 04:16 |
| systemdlete | use = ultimately, call | 04:16 |
| bru | systemdlete: Firefox does undirectly use files from the libglx-mesa0, libgl1-mesa-dri packages and simillars, as it depends directly on libavcodec58. Now I'm starting to feel the fear | 04:23 |
| phillipsjk | Thanks for the hint fsmithred. | 04:29 |
| bru | Update: even Xorg depends directly on Mesa... Oh dear | 04:30 |
| DashiePie | I mean, you need something to render your screen don't you? and Mesa is a driver | 04:35 |
| DashiePie | also, wouldn't X equally depend on AMD's proprietary drivers, or Nvidia's for that matter? | 04:36 |
| DashiePie | I guess I'm coming from the perspective of someone who uses a gui, but still | 04:38 |
| gnarface | DashiePie: AMD doesn't do that anymore on linux; everyone but NVidia is actually using mesa now | 04:44 |
| DashiePie | I think you misunderstood me? I was basically saying "well, it's a driver, so why wouldn't X depend on it for graphical things?" | 04:46 |
| gnarface | oh | 04:47 |
| gnarface | sorry yes, i guess i misunderstood your statement | 04:47 |
| gnarface | although i was using the open source driver fwiw (with the proprietary firmware, but it's distinct from their amdgpu-pro driver which is fully closed-source) | 04:48 |
| DashiePie | my comments were in response to bru's | 04:49 |
| phillipsjk | This looks like the starting point for compiling rocm: https://github.com/RadeonOpenCompute/ROCm/issues/520 | 07:13 |
| phillipsjk | Apparenrtly a kernel compile is required. I should probably try that first (it has been about 2 decades since I did that). | 07:14 |
| phillipsjk | kernel compile may be worth it since my L2 caches are only 512kB. | 07:16 |
| chomwitt | Happy new year. | 08:00 |
| linearain | hello, how could i migrate from buster to beowulf on a machine without internet? | 08:46 |
| KREYREN | https://dpaste.com/9K43VJH59.txt | 09:43 |
| KREYREN | torvuan down? | 09:43 |
| KREYREN | --2021-01-11 09:44:49-- http://vwakviie2ienjx6t.onion/debian/pool/main/m/mesa/libgl1-mesa-dri_20.2.6-1_i386.deb | 09:45 |
| KREYREN | Resolving vwakviie2ienjx6t.onion (vwakviie2ienjx6t.onion)... failed: Name or service not known. | 09:45 |
| KREYREN | wget: unable to resolve host address ‘vwakviie2ienjx6t.onion’ | 09:45 |
| KREYREN | https://i.imgur.com/MtLL5Jj.png seems that the mirror by itself shows the files, but doesn't allow download? x.x | 09:46 |
| xinomilo | all tor HSv3 are/were down | 09:46 |
| KREYREN | how so o.o | 09:46 |
| xinomilo | oops sorry, repo is v2 onion, should work | 09:48 |
| xinomilo | nevermind | 09:48 |
| * KREYREN is even more confused | 09:49 | |
| xinomilo | probably something's wrong with repo/tor | 09:50 |
| xinomilo | also noticed that ceres is not updating for the last couple of days.. | 09:51 |
| chomwitt | i upgraded to beowulf and i 'll install runit . apache and sshd would be ok? | 10:02 |
| chomwitt | happy new year!! | 10:04 |
| chomwitt | i forgot. sorry | 10:04 |
| chomwitt | http://smarden.org/runit/replaceinit.html do i have to follow those instructions or installation script will cover that? | 10:06 |
| chomwitt | bad choice... i am logged out. | 11:02 |
| xinomilo | check this also : https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=3628 | 11:05 |
| chomwitt | i've checked. | 11:06 |
| chomwitt | prppably sshd was messed | 11:06 |
| chomwitt | dont worry .. not a production server. just a vps test server | 11:11 |
| chomwitt | but still it hurts a little.. | 11:11 |
| chomwitt | hetzner removed the devuan iso option | 11:33 |
| chomwitt | i have to change provider again.... | 11:34 |
| Joril | chomwitt: that's strange, I've asked to add it just less than two months ago | 11:37 |
| xinomilo | same here, but 18months ago :) | 11:38 |
| Joril | chomwitt: anyway, if you send a support request they usually answer very quickly | 11:38 |
| xinomilo | no such option last time i checked | 11:38 |
| chomwitt | it was there a year or two ago when i installed it first time | 11:38 |
| xinomilo | they replied it was not popular at the time | 11:38 |
| Joril | I can still see "devuan_beowulf_3.0.0_amd64-netinstall.iso" under "ISO images" on my account | 11:39 |
| chomwitt | i cant see it in my account | 11:40 |
| Joril | It looks like some images are tied to one's account then, not "global" | 11:41 |
| chomwitt | i will email them then, | 11:42 |
| Joril | Or maybe they are local to the data center? I'm on fsn1-dc14 | 11:42 |
| chomwitt | nbg1-dc3 | 11:43 |
| Wonka | Waiting for /dev to be fully populated...[ 5.637002] udevd[458]: failed to execute '/lib/udev/${exec_prefix}/bin/udevadm' '${exec_prefix}/bin/udevadm trigger -s block -p ID_BTRFS_READY=0': No such file or d | 16:44 |
| Wonka | irectory | 16:44 |
| Wonka | hmm. any idea what might cause this? | 16:44 |
| mason | Wonka: It jumps out at me that you're seeing ${exec_prefix} there, unexpanded. | 16:48 |
| Wonka | mason: yep. Also, there is nothing that would match that path - udevadm lives in /bin/udevadm, and there's a symlink /sbin/udevadm -> /bin/udevadm | 16:50 |
| Wonka | the udevd binary does not contain "exec_prefix" at all | 16:54 |
| Wonka | neither does the config | 16:55 |
| mason | grep -r exec_prefix /etc | 16:58 |
| mason | as a start | 16:58 |
| mason | might be in /usr somewhere too | 16:58 |
| fsmithred | might it just be in the source code? | 17:00 |
| fsmithred | systemd-master/meson.build:238:substs.set('exec_prefix', prefixdir) | 17:05 |
| fsmithred | systemd-master/src/libsystemd/libsystemd.pc.in:11:exec_prefix=@exec_prefix@ | 17:05 |
| fsmithred | systemd-master/src/libudev/libudev.pc.in:11:exec_prefix=@exec_prefix@ | 17:05 |
| Wonka | matches in /etc/grub.d/, /usr/lib/python3.9/, /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/pkgconfig/, cc1, cc1plus, /usr/share/aclocal/ | 17:05 |
| Wonka | ... /usr/share/autoconf/ | 17:08 |
| Wonka | nothing that I consider likely | 17:08 |
| Wonka | # grep -r exec_prefix /lib | 17:08 |
| Wonka | /lib/udev/rules.d/64-btrfs.rules:ENV{ID_BTRFS_READY}=="1", RUN+="${exec_prefix}/bin/udevadm trigger -s block -p ID_BTRFS_READY=0" | 17:08 |
| Wonka | ah | 17:09 |
| Wonka | # dpkg -S /lib/udev/rules.d/64-btrfs.rules | 17:09 |
| Wonka | eudev: /lib/udev/rules.d/64-btrfs.rules | 17:09 |
| Wonka | eudev 3.2.9-8 | 17:09 |
| mason | That looks like it. Wonka: You should be able to just modify that file and see if it helps, and maybe file a bug. | 17:11 |
| Wonka | removed the ${exec_prefix}, now no error message | 17:15 |
| Wonka | bug filed. No idea what to replace the @bindir@ in https://git.devuan.org/devuan/eudev/src/branch/master/rules/64-btrfs.rules.in#L14 with. | 17:32 |
| phillipsjk | Looks like the Ubuntu live DVD solved the slow drive seek issue causing boot time-outs by preloading everything with a "disk check". | 18:09 |
| phillipsjk | At 2.6GB of data, it should fit in RAM. | 18:10 |
| Ultimac | hey what's up | 19:49 |
| Ultimac | does anyone know how to install "latest" drivers for a 1080 gfx card? 8) | 20:08 |
| Ultimac | I've seen this install script utility called sgfxi but I'm unsure if it works, also documentation kinda lacking | 20:09 |
| fsmithred | maybe 'apt install firmware-amd-graphics' | 20:09 |
| fsmithred | just a guess | 20:09 |
| Ultimac | I use nvidia unfortunately | 20:09 |
| fsmithred | does it work at all? | 20:09 |
| fsmithred | with nouveau | 20:09 |
| debdog | well, there's https://www.nvidia.de/Download/index.aspx?lang=en but it's a bit tricky sometimes on system updates | 20:11 |
| fsmithred | well, you just can't get to the desktop after a kernel upgrade. I remember those days. | 20:12 |
| fsmithred | Ultimac, it might help if you give more information. | 20:12 |
| fsmithred | Like... | 20:12 |
| Ultimac | Yeah I wanted to do this but I'm not totally sure if kernel is compatible with latest driver and all. | 20:12 |
| fsmithred | did you install devuan? | 20:12 |
| Ultimac | yeah I'm on it now | 20:12 |
| debdog | ideally remove the driver beforhand upgrading the system | 20:12 |
| fsmithred | which version? what kernel? | 20:13 |
| Ultimac | uname -r | 20:13 |
| Ultimac | 4.19.0-13-amd64 | 20:13 |
| Ultimac | nvidia-detect | 20:13 |
| Ultimac | Detected NVIDIA GPUs: | 20:13 |
| Ultimac | 08:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation GP104 [GeForce GTX 1080] [10de:1b80] (rev a1) | 20:13 |
| Ultimac | Checking card: NVIDIA Corporation GP104 [GeForce GTX 1080] (rev a1) | 20:13 |
| Ultimac | Your card is supported by the default drivers and legacy driver series 390. | 20:13 |
| Ultimac | It is recommended to install the | 20:13 |
| Ultimac | nvidia-driver | 20:13 |
| nemo | duuude | 20:13 |
| fsmithred | careful about posting multiple lines | 20:13 |
| nemo | not to mention all of that was just one line 😝 | 20:13 |
| fsmithred | you may get bounced | 20:13 |
| Ultimac | sheeit | 20:14 |
| fsmithred | depending on how sensitive the bot is feeling today | 20:14 |
| nemo | Ultimac: I've gotten rid of my last nvidia at home, but I do know I had to move to chimaera for proper support of my AMD RX 5600 | 20:14 |
| fsmithred | enable contrib and non-free in sources.list | 20:14 |
| Ultimac | I mean nvid-detect says it's compitable with default thats in the lib, guess ill try that and boot up some games | 20:15 |
| nemo | hm. the 1080 was released 4 years ago though | 20:15 |
| Ultimac | yeah I've done it smith | 20:15 |
| fsmithred | nouveau is the default, free driver | 20:15 |
| nemo | Ultimac: oh... also, nouveau worked on all my games except Witcher 2 - I had to install the closed source blob for that, which is a shame 'cause it was kinda flakey | 20:15 |
| fsmithred | I don't actually know which packages you should install now. It's different from when I last did it. | 20:15 |
| fsmithred | but check the debian wiki | 20:16 |
| fsmithred | I use nouveau now, but my gaming is mostly limited to freecell. Movies work fine. | 20:16 |
| Ultimac | https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers | 20:16 |
| Ultimac | Can I just follow this and expect the right result on devuan? | 20:17 |
| fsmithred | yes | 20:17 |
| Ultimac | Alright sick | 20:17 |
| Ultimac | Thanks | 20:17 |
| fsmithred | 99% of the packages in devuan are right from debian | 20:17 |
| fsmithred | we only fork the ones that require systemd | 20:17 |
| Ultimac | Okay great to know '=D | 20:17 |
| fsmithred | don't use debian repos in sources.list | 20:18 |
| fsmithred | the only additional thing you'll get is trouble | 20:18 |
| Ultimac | Alright. I've been using devuan on my laptop now rock solid for months, really impressive. Tried manjaro on my desktop and it's auto update function fucked my entire system up irreparably to rootfs | 20:18 |
| Ultimac | So I just went with this because I know it's nice although it's not as brainless but whatever | 20:19 |
| Ultimac | Thanks lads, no problems | 20:39 |
| e3d3 | Not a specific Devuan question but I remember someone here uses refracta. Is it true that refracta snapshot only work on the same pc that made the snapshot, and not on other pc's ? And will keeping the network configuration also store the WPA network key ? | 23:08 |
| e3d3 | The snapshot I made only works on the orginal pc, but I added a folder to the iso (with isomaster) before burning, so I'm a little unsure about the result. | 23:09 |
| e3d3 | I didn't include the network connection, and can't connect to WiFi with the snapshot. | 23:12 |
| fsmithred | e3d3, Refracta is made with refractasnapshot, and it works on many computers. | 23:41 |
| fsmithred | what wireless hardware do you have? You probably need to install firmware for it. | 23:42 |
| fsmithred | someone here not only uses Refracta but makes it. (That would be me.) | 23:43 |
| fsmithred | tell me what you added | 23:44 |
| nemo | https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/18184 | 23:45 |
| nemo | here we go again | 23:45 |
| nemo | I'd love to know why poettering insists on using rdrand | 23:45 |
| nemo | oh. hm. this might be just due to small randoms | 23:46 |
| nemo | ah. they don't want to block on pool seeding | 23:49 |
| nemo | they claim it can take "up to minutes" | 23:49 |
| nemo | never seen that. maybe if the random file was missing | 23:49 |
| e3d3 | fsmithred: wow, I couldn't have asked on a better place. I'm totally dyslectic with network-stuff but know that I have Qualcomm Atheros Wireless. I added a folder with audio to the iso by using isomaster (GUI) | 23:49 |
| nemo | I'm confused as to why their internal UUIDs require this as opposed to a fixed seed | 23:50 |
| nemo | I mean, the UUIDs don't require cryptographic security surely | 23:50 |
| fsmithred | e3d3, was wireless working on the system that created the iso? | 23:51 |
| e3d3 | fsmithred: The snapshot didn't boot at all on a HP laptop. On an Acer laptop boot end with black screen, that lightens just enough to recognize the shutdown window when I press the power button. Wifi was working on the orginal system, but I was not connected when I made the snapshot. | 23:52 |
| e3d3 | fsmithred: Using the snapshot on the orginal laptop (Asus) worked. I saw wlan0 in the network manager but I couldn't turn the wifi on with the button in network manager, like I normally do before scanning the network. | 23:55 |
| fsmithred | which button? Connect? | 23:59 |
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