| luser977 | I just love netbsd's no nonsense approach. https://www.netbsd.org/docs/guide/en/chap-bluetooth.html | 00:11 |
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| luser977 | 00:11 | |
| luser977 | /done ot | 00:11 |
| luser977 | zzz | 00:11 |
| Wafficus | hey there, I'm trying to add 'carla' to Devuan via the 'kxstudio' repository. I added it via the related .deb instructions on their site, yet I don't see 'carla' show up under /lib/vst | 01:11 |
| Wafficus | https://kx.studio/Repositories | 01:11 |
| gnarface | Wafficus: did you run "apt-get update" afterwards? | 01:12 |
| gnarface | Wafficus: you probably need to specify -t | 01:12 |
| Wafficus | ah yes, I didn't do an update, good reminder | 01:14 |
| Wafficus | thanks for this | 01:14 |
| Wafficus | trying that now | 01:14 |
| Wafficus | ahah, yep that did it, now I can find 'carla' | 01:14 |
| Wafficus | thanks gnarface :) | 01:15 |
| n4dir | Wafficus: just in case you ever search for something https://librazik.tuxfamily.org/doc3/paquets | 01:19 |
| no_9 | hello everyone :) | 04:59 |
| no_9 | the netinstall iso will allow me to install a full system later, yes? | 04:59 |
| no_9 | almost 260 people in here 8D --devuan has moved up! used to be only 20-30 here | 05:02 |
| rrq | all isos let you install "a full system later" .. netinstall will require network for that, the other (server+cd[234] and dvd) have package pools on them | 05:04 |
| fluffywolf | they're still all idle, though. :P | 05:05 |
| rrq | the mirrors are busy mirroring | 05:05 |
| rrq | they use 90% of the bandwidth | 05:05 |
| no_9 | does the netinst have any wifi support at all? | 05:06 |
| rrq | yes it has all non-free packages | 05:07 |
| no_9 | great--i think it only takes 2 packages to support my ancient RTL8188CE 802.11b/g/n anyway | 05:09 |
| no_9 | and i have an even older zydas usb wifi stick | 05:09 |
| Xenguy | no_9: I always use netinstall cos it's a nice minimal install that can be customized to your heart's content | 05:32 |
| fluffywolf | I use netinst because I pay $50 per 7GB and I don't want to download a single package I don't need. | 05:33 |
| Xenguy | Minimalism FTW : -) | 05:34 |
| no_9 | SI herr Xenguy, choo are mooooost wiiissseee | 05:40 |
| no_9 | less to break and what there is aint fake | 05:40 |
| Xenguy | heheh | 05:44 |
| rrq | mmm it was produced using both fakechroot and fakeroot ;) | 05:48 |
| Xenguy | Tell me there's no fake news | 05:49 |
| rrq | looks like there's only one mirror left .. now web downloads should improve | 05:52 |
| rrq | and downloading from (some) mirrors is now even faster | 06:09 |
| * enyc meows | 08:08 | |
| onefang | https://www.theregister.com/2021/02/16/devuan_3_10_adds_runit_init/ | 09:20 |
| gour | any hint how to update grub to generate gui theme instead of 'default' ncurses one? | 10:21 |
| fsmithred | gour, did you look in /etc/default/grub to find a theme line? | 10:22 |
| fsmithred | it'll be at the end | 10:22 |
| gour | fsmithred: there is none, but same thing on debian (desktop) machine and grub does boot in gui? | 10:23 |
| fsmithred | apt reinstall desktop-base && update-grub | 10:24 |
| fsmithred | how does debian do it? | 10:24 |
| fsmithred | do they put the theme files in /boot/grub? | 10:24 |
| gour | no, there is line: if background_image /usr/share/desktop/base/... which loads png | 10:26 |
| gour | thanks. re-installing desktop-base did it :-) | 10:29 |
| gour | i'm on ceres, replaced slim with lightdm, installed nm instead of wicd - some cosmetic changes to make machine more friendly to other family members :-) | 10:30 |
| jiefk[m] | Hello all ! Is there some quircks with the new radicale package (3.0.6) on Chimaera ? postinstall fails, servica radicale start does not start (no more info ?), and for what is worth, postrm fails too when trying to uninstall... | 10:57 |
| jiefk[m] | Only starting radicale manually works (radicale -D -C config.file.cfg | 10:58 |
| fsmithred | jiefk[m], does /etc/init.d/radicale exist? | 11:05 |
| stovepipe | i'm trying backports for the first time, should i just let it update what it wants | 11:09 |
| fsmithred | stovepipe, you should be selective with backports | 11:10 |
| fsmithred | the packages in backports have never all been tested together | 11:10 |
| stovepipe | yeah but it needs some parts right | 11:10 |
| fsmithred | yeah | 11:10 |
| stovepipe | my m ain purpose is the newer kernel to test something | 11:10 |
| stovepipe | i dont mind being a bit bleeding edge | 11:11 |
| stovepipe | i can handle all that, just my first time :) | 11:11 |
| fsmithred | oh, just install bpo kernel and let it pull in what it needs | 11:11 |
| stovepipe | base-files dbus dbus-x11 eudev init init-system-helpers libdbus-1-3 libdbus-1-dev libeudev-dev libeudev1 | 11:11 |
| stovepipe | the one that says "unsigned"? | 11:11 |
| stovepipe | should i not let it install that list of stuff | 11:11 |
| fsmithred | those might be regular beowulf updates | 11:11 |
| stovepipe | yeah true heh | 11:12 |
| stovepipe | i dont use this one much | 11:12 |
| fsmithred | what shows if you 'apt -s upgrade'? | 11:12 |
| fsmithred | the -s is simulate | 11:12 |
| stovepipe | i should have done that first | 11:12 |
| fsmithred | some of the packages you listed were moved from beowulf-proposed-updates to beowulf a couple days ago | 11:14 |
| stovepipe | roger i just did all those without backports now | 11:15 |
| stovepipe | and rebooted | 11:15 |
| fsmithred | signed/unsigned is related to secure boot | 11:16 |
| fsmithred | uefi M$ stuff | 11:16 |
| stovepipe | ok i see it my eyes are fuzzy | 11:17 |
| stovepipe | wait no thats headers | 11:17 |
| stovepipe | they all say unsigned, right | 11:17 |
| stovepipe | linux-image-5.10.0-0.bpo.3-amd64-unsigned | 11:18 |
| stovepipe | oh, linux-image-5.9.0-0.bpo.5-amd64 | 11:20 |
| stovepipe | not one of those for 5.10 | 11:20 |
| stovepipe | that'll do | 11:21 |
| stovepipe | fsmithred: is it supposed to be like that or is it just new or something | 11:24 |
| stovepipe | theres only -dbg and -unsigned for 5.10 | 11:24 |
| fsmithred | I don't know | 11:24 |
| gour | i've used the following integration between isync & mu4e (https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Isync#Integration_with_notmuch_or_mu4e) and wonder how to do it without systemd (besides cron job)? | 11:25 |
| fsmithred | maybe they don't bother with the signed kernel for backports | 11:25 |
| stovepipe | there is for 5.9 | 11:25 |
| stovepipe | linux-image-5.9.0-0.bpo.5-amd64 | 11:25 |
| stovepipe | all 3 | 11:25 |
| stovepipe | maybe it just hasnt happened yet | 11:26 |
| fsmithred | could be | 11:26 |
| stovepipe | anyhoo | 11:26 |
| fsmithred | bpo kernels don't get a lot of love | 11:26 |
| stovepipe | neat | 11:26 |
| stovepipe | i'll be playing with ryzen vega video | 11:27 |
| fsmithred | ah | 11:27 |
| stovepipe | works on default kernel, it needs 4.17 or higher | 11:27 |
| stovepipe | but i know the speed jumped quite a bit on freebsd when it switched to 5 kernel drm | 11:27 |
| stovepipe | but theres something wrong | 11:28 |
| stovepipe | i need to know its not my machine heh | 11:28 |
| stovepipe | funny also like the old days with a windows dual boot for games, now i have a linux dual boot for games | 11:28 |
| stovepipe | triple boot... | 11:29 |
| stovepipe | worked, now glmark2 | 11:34 |
| stovepipe | hrm, still performs the same as before, not what i expected | 11:42 |
| stovepipe | what am i missing | 11:45 |
| stovepipe | or is it the xorg parts too | 11:45 |
| stovepipe | i went through the amdgpu-pro install from amd about a year ago and it also had no effect | 11:53 |
| jiefk[m] | fsmithred: yes, radicale exists there ! | 13:22 |
| fsmithred | jiefk[m], did you check /etc/default/radicale? | 13:23 |
| fsmithred | might be a switch there | 13:23 |
| fsmithred | can you start/stop it by running /etc/init.d/radicale start|stop? | 13:24 |
| ham5urg | I have a problem with my AMD GPU 01:00.0, Radeon RX550. After suspend and resuming the machine, it hangs and is not coming back. Inside the boot log I find the message that no firmware is found. At debian I find a package called firmware-amd-graphics. Is this package mandatory for such GPU? I believed that with module AMDGPU the need for blobs has vanished, am I wrong? | 13:53 |
| systemdlete | Can I upgrade to 3.1 by simply update/upgrade? | 14:10 |
| xinomilo | yes, it's just packages in the same release (beowulf) | 14:15 |
| onefang | If you are up to date with your apt updates, you already have Beowulf 3.1. | 14:20 |
| systemdlete | super thanks. | 14:22 |
| systemdlete | another question. I am using luks on a system where space is down to 88 bytes free. However, the "physical" disk (this is actually a VM) has over a gb available. | 14:23 |
| systemdlete | I see some articles on how to fix this, but those are a few years old now. I am wondering if there is a simple way to do it now. | 14:23 |
| systemdlete | and there is no lvm on this system | 14:24 |
| xinomilo | so you want to grow luks partition to fill available space? | 14:27 |
| systemdlete | Yes. | 14:28 |
| systemdlete | Or at least extend the space | 14:28 |
| xinomilo | booting from gparted live cd perhaps.. | 14:28 |
| systemdlete | yeah | 14:28 |
| xinomilo | used this last time : https://libguestfs.org/virt-resize.1.html | 14:28 |
| systemdlete | that seems to be the thinking in most of the posts I am seeing | 14:29 |
| xinomilo | keep an image backup beforehand | 14:29 |
| systemdlete | this is vbox, not kvm | 14:29 |
| systemdlete | (sorry, I should have told you that) | 14:29 |
| systemdlete | but I think using gparted should be fine. | 14:29 |
| systemdlete | probably the quickest and easiest option. | 14:30 |
| xinomilo | you could qemu-convert it.. but yes, try gparted first | 14:30 |
| systemdlete | thanks xinomilo, thanks onefang | 14:30 |
| xinomilo | backup first, gparted 2nd :) | 14:30 |
| systemdlete | the partition layout looks like 1G encrypted, 1G swap, 6G root fs = total 8gb | 14:38 |
| systemdlete | gparted won't let me do anything! | 14:39 |
| systemdlete | I don't have much on the system yet, but thanks for the backup reminder. I'll add it to my backups from here on forward. | 14:39 |
| fsmithred | pvresize? | 14:40 |
| systemdlete | btw, it's an ext4 fs. | 14:40 |
| systemdlete | fsmithred: No lvm on this one. | 14:40 |
| fsmithred | oh | 14:40 |
| systemdlete | sadly, I chose not to do it that way on this particular VM. | 14:41 |
| systemdlete | would make life easier... | 14:41 |
| systemdlete | I could just re-install the whole shebang | 14:41 |
| systemdlete | I have some template VMs for cloning. | 14:41 |
| fsmithred | make a bigger vm and rsync everything over to it | 14:41 |
| systemdlete | Those are set up right. | 14:41 |
| systemdlete | not necessary to do all that. I was just saying I have little on the system so far. | 14:42 |
| systemdlete | I don't get why gparted is being a butt about this. Usually it "just works" | 14:42 |
| fsmithred | IMO resizing is for the birds | 14:42 |
| fsmithred | encrypted? | 14:42 |
| systemdlete | yes | 14:42 |
| systemdlete | the partition layout looks like 1G encrypted, 1G swap, 6G root fs = total 8gb | 14:42 |
| fsmithred | I didn't think gparted could do that | 14:43 |
| systemdlete | oh... | 14:43 |
| systemdlete | that would explain it | 14:43 |
| fsmithred | cryptsetup resize | 14:43 |
| fsmithred | I've never done it, but it's in the man page | 14:44 |
| systemdlete | ok, will try that. thanks | 14:44 |
| fsmithred | upi | 14:45 |
| fsmithred | you probably need to shrink swap or root to make the space | 14:47 |
| jiefk[m] | fsmithred: re:Radicale Yes, I checked also this file. I also exec update-rc.d command | 15:10 |
| fsmithred | and all the symlinks are in place? | 15:10 |
| xinomilo | cryptsetup doesn't care about partition size, iirc | 15:21 |
| xinomilo | you have to resize all partitions to enlarge the one encrypted | 15:22 |
| xinomilo | shrink the last one, move the 2nd , grow first encrypted.. | 15:23 |
| xinomilo | haven't done it in a while, just a proposal.. | 15:23 |
| jiefk[m] | Yes I suppose that... For sure, manually running `service radicale start` does not start the service. exit code $? is 0 | 15:41 |
| fsmithred | jiefk[m], I just installed radicale and it is turned off in all runlevels | 15:49 |
| fsmithred | added 'set -x' to the init script and it fails on the start-stop-daemon commands in do_start() | 15:49 |
| kreyren1 | Howddya extract freearc archive on devuan | 15:50 |
| kreyren1 | x.x | 15:50 |
| fsmithred | running the first one (the one with --test) returns 0 if I run it on command line, but returns 1 when runs in the script | 15:50 |
| fsmithred | kreyren1, same way as on debian? | 15:50 |
| kreyren1 | <fsmithred "kreyren, same way as on debian?"> i dunno how to do that on debian i ain't using that systemd garbage~ | 15:51 |
| fsmithred | just suggesting that google probably has a quick answer if you ask the question right (i.e. ask about debian) | 15:52 |
| kreyren1 | <fsmithred "just suggesting that google prob"> did, it didn't | 15:52 |
| fsmithred | damn | 15:52 |
| kreyren1 | x.x | 15:52 |
| fsmithred | what is a freearc archive anyway? | 15:52 |
| kreyren1 | i woudn't be asking otherwise dammit! x.x | 15:52 |
| kreyren1 | <fsmithred "what is a freearc archive anyway"> smells like open 7zip on steroid | 15:53 |
| kreyren1 | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FreeArc | 15:53 |
| kreyren1 | downloaded assassin's creed Black flag from torrent and the `setup` thing doesn't work with it x.x | 15:53 |
| kreyren1 | kreyren@leonid:~/Downloads/AC4$ ls | 15:53 |
| kreyren1 | autorun.inf data2.bin data4.bin Redist | 15:53 |
| kreyren1 | data1.bin data3.bin data.bin setup.exe | 15:53 |
| kreyren1 | there just seems to be shady executables without sources when i try to look for debian solution | 15:54 |
| fsmithred | apt-cache search freearc brings up nothing | 15:55 |
| kreyren1 | yep x.x | 15:55 |
| fsmithred | from your description, I would stay away from it | 15:55 |
| kreyren1 | <fsmithred "from your description, I would s"> not an option i want to play the game | 15:55 |
| kreyren1 | and i ain't downloading that with uplay so torrent is only option | 15:56 |
| kreyren1 | even though i own the game | 15:56 |
| xinomilo | wine or windows | 15:57 |
| kreyren1 | wine | 15:57 |
| kreyren1 | well xen running linux that runs stratums that has wine | 15:57 |
| kreyren1 | except the xen doesn't work | 15:57 |
| kreyren1 | atm | 15:57 |
| kreyren1 | but it might have bits around | 15:57 |
| kreyren1 | x.x | 15:57 |
| * fsmithred plays freecell | 15:57 | |
| * kreyren1 wants to play something stealty with climbing | 15:58 | |
| kreyren1 | unar | 15:58 |
| kreyren1 | apparently | 15:58 |
| kreyren1 | arc - Archive utility based on the MSDOS ARC program | 15:59 |
| kreyren1 | and i g? | 15:59 |
| kreyren1 | trying | 15:59 |
| kreyren1 | unar doesn't work | 16:00 |
| kreyren1 | arc does! | 16:00 |
| kreyren1 | yaay | 16:00 |
| kreyren1 | ah it doesn't just creates a weird files x.x | 16:13 |
| fsmithred | jiefk[m], to remove radicale, comment out a few lines of code in /var/lib/dpkg/info/radicale.prerm | 16:42 |
| fsmithred | just the stuff around and including 'invoke-rc.d' | 16:43 |
| jiefk[m] | fsmithred: thanks for the tip, it did the trick ! | 16:55 |
| fsmithred | might be worth filing a bug report with debian | 16:55 |
| jiefk[m] | The reinstall did not go well... postinstall failed. I still can start the server manually. Will do for the time being :) Thanks for your help fsmithred :) | 17:00 |
| fsmithred | I could not get it to start | 17:02 |
| jiefk[m] | fsmithred: I'm glad in a sense, at least I did not break my system :p | 17:17 |
| luser977 | re: bluez-tools: it's a monument of breakage related to BlueZ 5, 4 was apparently more usable. | 22:36 |
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