| onefang | Which is why my advice is - if you know what you are doing, check them first, otherwise maybe not. Most others say "NO!". shrugs | 00:00 |
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| onefang | Though I guess if you have to ask, you probably don't know what you are doing. lol | 00:00 |
| hook54321 | What's a good speed to crawl dev1galaxy.org? I don't want to overload it or cause issues. | 01:14 |
| gnarface | kreyren: awesome | 01:27 |
| Xenguy | I'm wondering if anyone knows if there are any existing examples of software that is being packaged for Devuan that are *not* already packaged in Debian? | 01:53 |
| Xenguy | e.g. is anyone packaging something just for Devuan, and not Debian? | 01:54 |
| fsmithred | refractainstaller and refractasnapshot, fontsnaps, cryptsetup_modified_functions | 01:54 |
| Xenguy | but of course, thanks fsmithred | 01:54 |
| Xenguy | There's some chess software that I'm looking into | 01:55 |
| Unit193 | Old list, but xlennart, pinthread, loginkit, fontsnaps, devuan-lintian-profile, choose-init, acdcli | 01:55 |
| Xenguy | It's a fork of a package that currently is in the Devuan repo | 01:55 |
| fsmithred | ? | 01:55 |
| Xenguy | xlennart, gotta install that one : -) | 01:56 |
| fsmithred | lol, yes | 01:56 |
| Xenguy | scid is the chess software in the repo... | 01:57 |
| Xenguy | chessdb is the fork of that, not currently packaged | 01:57 |
| fsmithred | what does the fork have that the original does not? | 02:14 |
| Xenguy | One feature in particular is its claim to be able to automatically locate and download certain (free) chess databases of many many chess games, played by extremely highly rated players... | 02:19 |
| Xenguy | One entry I saw claimed there were over 3 million games in one of these things | 02:19 |
| Xenguy | But there a number of extra features in the fork allegedly... | 02:20 |
| Xenguy | I say allegedly because I haven't gotten around to verifying the details yet... This will be a weekend project likely | 02:20 |
| fsmithred | they both look pretty good | 02:22 |
| Xenguy | Yeah, I discovered the first one 2 weeks ago, but now I found out about the chess databases, and I want to get one local 8 -D | 02:22 |
| fsmithred | how many games does scid have? | 02:23 |
| Xenguy | scid even has a Wiki entry: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shane%27s_Chess_Information_Database | 02:23 |
| Xenguy | fsmithred, scid doesn't seem to offer access to online chess game databases, which is why I | 02:24 |
| Xenguy | 'm looking to chessdb | 02:24 |
| fsmithred | look at the screenshot on sourceforge | 02:24 |
| fsmithred | looks like it's showing someone else's game | 02:24 |
| Xenguy | yeah | 02:24 |
| Xenguy | There's many ways to arrive at that location | 02:25 |
| Xenguy | And you're right, they're both great programs I'm sure. I just want the 1.5-3 million chess games in digital format : -) | 02:26 |
| Xenguy | The slicing and dicing that both these programs can do on a data set like that boggles the mind | 02:27 |
| fsmithred | looks like you can bookmark links to online databases in scid | 02:27 |
| Xenguy | There was also mention of an elite 100,000 game collection of only the highest rated players in history | 02:28 |
| fsmithred | but it's not obvious where they are | 02:28 |
| Xenguy | Huh, interesting | 02:28 |
| fsmithred | and you can import database files | 02:28 |
| Xenguy | I still want at least one chess database local, but that's great if it will hook into a remote chess database | 02:28 |
| Xenguy | Yes, I just need to source them I suppose | 02:29 |
| fsmithred | .pgn files (portable game notation) | 02:29 |
| Xenguy | Right, and then scid has it's own (faster binary) format... | 02:29 |
| Xenguy | And can probably convert from 1 form to the other | 02:29 |
| Xenguy | PGN files are the most agnostic of the bunch I think | 02:30 |
| fsmithred | yeah, you can export the game you're playing | 02:30 |
| Xenguy | It's pretty cool, I could email you a game, etc. etc. Many options | 02:30 |
| Xenguy | s/agnostic/portable/ | 02:31 |
| Xenguy | Back in the day they would play email chess with PGN files | 02:31 |
| fsmithred | before that was snail mail | 02:32 |
| Xenguy | You have to admit: that's cooooooooooooooooool | 02:32 |
| Xenguy | Imagine the anticipation, the specialness of the letter | 02:32 |
| mason | You offtopic people... I just don't know. (I used to play PBM strategy games.) | 02:32 |
| Xenguy | The delicious sloooooooooowness of the game | 02:33 |
| Xenguy | mason, oopsies, got carried away we did : -) | 02:33 |
| mason | :P | 02:33 |
| Xenguy | So much so, I'm talking like Yoda... but I digress | 02:33 |
| hook54321 | is the person that hosts the forums on IRC? | 02:56 |
| Xenguy | Yes, but you can go ahead and ask a question anyway | 03:00 |
| hook54321 | i asked it, figured they won't see it with all the backlog though. | 03:12 |
| rwp | hook54321, I doubt anyone knows off the top of their head. Some rate limit to avoid getting noticed. It's only known when it is hitting things too hard that it is too much. | 03:15 |
| golinux | hook54321: I don't really understand the question . . . | 03:16 |
| hook54321 | basically i want to crawl dev1galaxy.org, but I don't want to cause issues, even though I doubt I could. | 03:18 |
| golinux | Very little happens at this hour | 03:19 |
| hook54321 | I tried to crawl it already, but I seem to have gotten automatically(?) blocked | 03:20 |
| golinux | Yeah, we have protections in place to block perceived "baddies". | 03:20 |
| golinux | They can be rather draconian but are very effective. | 03:21 |
| rwp | Just curious... Based on fail2ban? It's the normal standard. But I am always on the lookout for better things. | 03:37 |
| hook54321 | ah. how long are the auto bans? could i be whitelisted? | 03:37 |
| fsmithred | what causes one to get blocked? | 03:41 |
| golinux | Crawling the forum | 03:42 |
| fsmithred | what exactly is crawl? | 03:42 |
| golinux | Our servers are getting hammered | 03:42 |
| fsmithred | how is it different from wget --mirror | 03:42 |
| fsmithred | right now? | 03:42 |
| golinux | I assume indexing | 03:42 |
| fsmithred | servers getting hammered right now? | 03:42 |
| golinux | Pretty much all the time | 03:43 |
| fsmithred | oh, ok | 03:43 |
| fsmithred | I thought maybe you were looking at something right now | 03:43 |
| fsmithred | so I might be blocked now? | 03:43 |
| fsmithred | I stopped the wget, but it ran for a few minutes | 03:43 |
| golinux | indexing is not wget. | 03:44 |
| golinux | PM | 03:44 |
| hook54321 | hammering it wasn't my intention | 03:53 |
| golinux | You have plenty of company . . . | 03:55 |
| hook54321 | ah | 03:55 |
| hook54321 | i can decrease the speed more | 03:57 |
| golinux | You might already be on a black list. Not sure how it works. | 03:57 |
| hook54321 | yeah i am | 03:57 |
| hook54321 | or i'm blocked at least | 03:57 |
| golinux | You might also check for your IP on stopforumspam. Could possibly have gotten on the if you've tried multiple times | 04:05 |
| hook54321 | only tried today | 04:24 |
| kamu | Hi im new to Devuan and i wondered about auto starting firewalls | 07:23 |
| ham5urg | I try to downgrade a UEFI. I identified the device with fwupdmgr and tried to downgrade http://paste.debian.net/1193059/ | 13:16 |
| ham5urg | But I do not understand the message, does it mean that the older firmware is not in the fwupd.org repository? | 13:17 |
| jonadab | /w 65 | 15:50 |
| beagleburt | G'day from New Zealand everyone. I have been having several annoying little problems since upgrading dist from Devuan 2 to Devuan 3. I decided to do a fresh install of Devuan 3.1.1 but the apt-get update failed - see: https://pastebin.com/pFCwx3c3 | 18:00 |
| gnarface | don't use the country code domains in your sources.list anymore, they're deprecated | 18:02 |
| gnarface | just use deb.devuan.org | 18:02 |
| gnarface | also check to make sure your system time is correct, then try again | 18:02 |
| beagleburt | gnarface, TKU will fix 'b'ye | 18:04 |
| fsmithred | In two beowulf installs, I noticed that /sbin/nologin does not exist. It should come with the login package. Reinstalling login creates that file on one of the beowulf systems, but not on the other. Does anyone have any idea why that file would disappear and why it got reinstalled in only one system and not the other? | 22:10 |
| golinux | Shouldn't that go on the -dev channel? | 22:25 |
| fsmithred | it's a support question | 22:33 |
| fsmithred | ok, it's /usr/sbin/nologin. That's why I couldn't find it. Can't read. | 22:42 |
| Xenguy | Is there an apt command that is similar to: dpkg -L login | 23:07 |
| Xenguy | ? | 23:07 |
| rm | why would you need one? | 23:13 |
| rm | this is operating on a specific package, not package management (addition/removal) | 23:13 |
| rm | and the former is dpkg domain | 23:13 |
| Xenguy | Yeah, it makes sense. | 23:32 |
| Xenguy | I could find no option after looking at the man page. | 23:33 |
| fsmithred | apt-file list <package> or apt-file find(or search) <file> | 23:34 |
| fsmithred | install apt-file and then 'apt-file update' as root. Then user can use it too. | 23:35 |
| fsmithred | dpkg -L (or -S) will only work for installed packages. apt-file works on the repo. | 23:35 |
| fsmithred | and I found my answer. I had the wrong path. And I found an even better answer - I don't want it. If you give root /usr/sbin/nologin for a shell, then 'sudo -i' doesn't work. | 23:36 |
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