libera/#devuan/ Sunday, 2021-05-09

Junicchi[    0.938481] udevd[160]: Error running install command 'modprobe -i nvidia-current ' for module nvidia: retcode 102:07
Junicchi^anyone know why is that02:07
Junicchimanually running modprobe -i nvidia-current is successfull02:07
Junicchiand i have the neccessary modules: http://0x0.st/-Bts.png02:08
Junicchi>install nvidia modprobe -i nvidia-current $CMDLINE_OPTS02:09
Junicchii guess the reason is CMDLINE_OPTS, wondering why is that02:10
Junicchialso when i try to make a clean nvidia-driver installation i get this error in apt:02:18
Junicchiinvoke-rc.d: initscript nvidia-persistenced, action "restart" failed.02:18
Junicchidpkg: error processing package nvidia-persistenced (--configure):02:18
Junicchi installed nvidia-persistenced package post-installation script subprocess returned error exit status 102:18
Junicchithe line that returns error is: invoke-rc.d --skip-systemd-native nvidia-persistenced $_dh_action || exit 102:18
gnarfacetry it without nvidia-persistenced03:20
gnarfacethat package often gets left behind from a previous version03:20
gnarfacei think it is optional usually too03:20
gnarfaceif you run "dpkg -l |grep -i nvidia" it should spit out a list of all the nvidia packges on your system, check to make sure they're all the same version03:22
gnarfacesome will have a weird serial number just ignore those03:22
gnarfacei'm talkinog about the ones with the XXX.XX numeric format03:22
gnarfacetalking*03:22
gnarfacethose all have to match03:23
gnarfaceif some are still old, remove them and install the current ones03:23
gnarfaceJunicchi: ^03:23
linux_nEvery time i boot devuan on terminal i have to type in terminal pulseaudio --start or else pulse audio wont start. Is there anyway to make it permenant so i don't have to type: pulseaudio --start  every time?03:33
gnarfaceit's supposed to do that by default, linux_n ... something must have gone wrong with the package install?03:35
gnarface... or the init setup...03:36
gnarface?03:36
linux_ni have devuan xfce version03:43
linux_ni fix the date and time issue now i just need to fix this.03:46
linux_nAnyone know the location boot and shutdown scripts?04:50
linux_nexample  debian is located on: /etc/init.d/04:51
gnarfacelinux_n: should be the same place05:04
gnarfacelinux_n: like i said, if they're not there something seems to have gone seriously wrong with your install or upgrade...05:04
gnarfaceany given package *should* implement that script on its own05:10
gnarfacetry "dpkg -S init.d"05:10
gnarfaceor better yet: "dpkg -S 'etc/init.d'05:11
gnarface"dpkg -S 'etc/init.d'"05:11
gnarfacei mean05:11
gnarfacewithout the "05:11
linux_nOn: /etc/init.d/ folder i found alsa-utils but i don't find pulseaudio. Should pulseaudio be in that folder aswell?05:29
gnarfacelinux_n: if you're using a graphical login, it is probably started by some session manager actually705:32
gnarfaceactually*05:32
gnarfacethat would vary depending on the graphical login software you happen to be using05:33
gnarface...said graphical login software's startup script would be in /etc/init.d/, mind you05:33
gnarfaceslim and lightdm are common choices05:34
linux_nI found slim but it has not text saying pulseaudio.06:37
linux_ni search with catfish file search in /etc/init.d/ folder contents and didn't find any pulseaudio.06:41
luser978reinstall pulseaudio package08:13
user_Beowulf: gitk package deps include dep on git <1.20.x .AND. git >1.20.x ... I have 1.29.x and apt/aptitude pretend not to be able to fix the dependency problem.13:54
user_Does anyone have a fixed gitk package link?13:54
user_gitk package with strange broken deps is 1.20.2.1-2+deb13:55
user_Update in aptitude etc does not help.13:55
fsmithredyou're typing the version incorrectly13:57
fsmithredDepends: git (>> 1:2.20.1), git (<< 1:2.20.1-.), tk13:57
fsmithreduser, what problem are you having?13:59
fsmithredif you're going to use one of those from backports, you probably need both of them from backports14:00
user_git-gui has the same problem14:01
fsmithredI don't see what the problem is14:01
user_fsmithred: aptitude and apt unable to install gitk or git-gui, error refers to unable to satisfy deps.14:01
fsmithredwhat command did you use?14:01
user_Where both packages depend on git <1.20.x or(and?) >1.20.x14:02
fsmithreddid it include '-t beowulf-backports'?14:02
user_aptitude14:02
user_no14:02
fsmithredwell, that's the problem14:02
fsmithred1:2.29* is in beowulf-backports14:02
user_Where does the -t go. Also, I think I have backports in sources.list14:02
fsmithredis/are14:02
fsmithredyou have a backports package installed already14:02
user_I have 1:2.29* here but that does not fix the dep problem.14:02
fsmithredapt/apt-get/aptitude -t beowulf-backports install <package>14:03
fsmithredpick your poison14:03
user_I have both deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf-backports main contrib non-free ;; and -src in sources.list14:03
user_And the command fails as above. Trying again after update package lists.14:04
fsmithredyeah, update might help. Looking at +deb10u3 here14:04
fsmithredoh14:04
fsmithredthat's not the bpo version14:05
fsmithredbpo10+114:05
user_Now it works. git-gui also pulls in gitk. I don't understand why.14:05
user_This is the *second* time I ran update, 1st time did not help.14:06
user_Is there a persistent setting for apt to NEVER ask for confirmation again? I let it run for longer ops and come back to prompts I DO NOT WANT TO SEE with 10% of the job done.14:11
user_No cli -y etc, something more permanent. Env var?14:11
lunariodo the devuan live CDs (when run from a usb key) offer some sort f persistence?14:12
fsmithredlunario, it depends on how you make the usb14:13
user_lunario: yes if you configure it so, i.e. you can use persistent storage. fsmithred is the person to ask, he implemented that, I think.14:13
lunariofsmithred: could you elaborate on that? i would have used dd14:13
fsmithredif you use dd with the i386 iso, I think you might be able to add a second partition. That won't work with the amd64 because of uefi compliance (interference?)14:14
lunarioahh, too bad, i need 64 bit for some programs :(14:14
fsmithredI use refracta2usb to make multi-boot live-usb. There are others that will do it.14:14
lunariooh wait, maybe not on the live system... :)14:14
fsmithredhang on, I'll dig up the readme14:14
user_fsmithred: I have Beowulf on refractausb stick and run it on amd64 with persistence partition(s)14:15
fsmithredhttps://refracta.org/docs/readme.refracta2usb.txt14:15
lunariocurrentl checking refracta2usb on github14:15
lunarioah, thanks!14:15
lunarioand, good to know user_, i will try it then14:15
fsmithredpackages are at sourceforge14:15
user_note fsmithred is the authority, I am just a happy user @lunario14:16
fsmithredhttps://sourceforge.net/projects/refracta/files/tools/14:16
fsmithreduser_, how did you make the usb?14:16
fsmithreddid you dd it?14:17
user_I think so. We talked about it then and I did it, last yearish. I had a different nick then.14:17
user_But I ran fdisk and made extra parts after dd, and I boot it on BIOS not UEFI.14:18
user_BIOS amd6414:18
fsmithredwhen I tried with dd, I was unable to create additional paritions.14:18
lunarioi am using libreboot, so hope this works there as well :)14:19
fsmithreddoes libreboot normally play nicely with isolinux and grub?14:20
lunariowith debian-based distros i never had any problems. it's difficult with e.g. arch-based distros though14:20
luser978fsmithred: unable to fdisk: on beowulf img dd'd and booted on bios?14:31
fsmithreduser_, in man apt-get: Configuration Item: APT::Get::Assume-Yes14:34
fsmithredwould go in some file in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/ I guess14:34
lunariofsmithred: here's what happens when i try to use refracta2usb: https://termbin.com/03zi17:11
lunarioany idea what might be the problem?17:12
fsmithredthose file paths look weird17:13
fsmithredhow did you partition the usb?17:13
lunariosdb1 with fat and sdb2 is a luks-container17:14
lunarioi used gnome-disks for that17:14
lunariowait, am i using the right (current) version? "refracta2usb .03? 2013-03-11" ?17:15
fsmithredno17:16
fsmithredwtf?17:16
lunarioyes i just noticed. sorry for the confusion... i should have checked, but it was the first one i found in your git repo17:16
str0merhallo17:17
fsmithredgit repo???17:17
fsmithredhttps://sourceforge.net/projects/refracta/files/tools/17:17
fsmithredget 2.4.3 from February of this year17:17
lunariothanks17:18
lunarioalso, hi str0mer. do you happen to ride one? ;)17:18
fsmithredlunario, if you have trouble, run 'refracta2usb -d' to get a more verbose log17:19
fsmithredlog is ~/.refracta2usb/snapshot2usb.log17:19
str0merI have a problem under beowulf with remote cryptroot-unlock.17:27
fsmithredwhat exactly are you trying to do?17:29
str0merIt always appears "Try again later", but after 3x on the Console the authentication failed, then it works by remote.17:31
str0meri'm use dropbear-initramfs17:32
fsmithredoh, I have no experience with that. sorry.17:33
fsmithredstay logged in and someone might answer. Usually takes minutes or hours.17:33
str0merok17:34
masonstr0mer: What's saying "try again later?" Are you connecting via dropbear?18:37
str0meryes18:38
masonstr0mer: And do you get a prompt to unlock? What do you see?18:38
str0mermason: on the dropbear session no, on the console yes18:45
masonstr0mer: You have dropbear-initramfs installed?18:47
str0meryes18:47
masonstr0mer: https://weblog.retiisi.eu/2018/06/configuring-network-with-dropbear-initramfs/18:48
masonIt ought to show up both on the console and via dropbear, so make sure you've got your networking coming up in the initramfs.18:49
str0merhttps://www.arminpech.de/2019/12/23/debian-unlock-luks-root-partition-remotely-by-ssh-using-dropbear/18:54
masonstr0mer: That starts off with an error. You don't need an LVM root.18:55
masonI guess they're not saying you do, but that's what they talk about. Maybe it's a fine guide given that proviso.18:55
masonstr0mer: But anyway, debug the network first. If the network doesn't come up, dropbear can't do anything.18:56
str0mernetwork is up18:56
masonstr0mer: So, you can ping the box but dropbear isn't listening? I'm still unclear on what precise failure you're encountering.18:57
str0merdropbear is listing, no session output after connect, after enter show "try again later"18:59
str0mermy english is bad19:00
masonstr0mer: Ah, you're able to authenticate successfully to dropbear? Can you also positively confirm that you get a sane error message if you give it a bad passphrase?19:01
masonor use a bad key?19:01
str0merthe key is correct. after 3 fails on console, show the ssh session after connect "Please unlock disk sda5_crypt:"19:03
masonstr0mer: Hrm, it's been a while since I've run that. I'll have to whip up a reproducer to help more.19:06
str0merfalse, the first ssh connect after boot show immediately the message "try again later?"19:08
str0merand disconnected19:08
masonstr0mer: I've got to take off for breakfast, but I'm working up a reproducer.19:15
str0mermason: I'll also make dinner first19:19
Guest7542Hi there19:38
Guest7542I would like some help setting up network connections on a newly installed devuan (noob here)19:40
Guest7542my options are either getting LAN to work with a windows system to download needed packages19:45
Guest7542 or finding a way to install drivers for wireless usb offline, transfering them with usb sticks19:45
Guest7542but so far I haven't managed to figure out either19:46
p0Guest7542: I've found that a usb-to-ethernet dongle is a lifesaver in these situations -- sometimes you can also tether an Android phone over usb and it will give you an ethernet connection.19:46
fsmithredGuest7542, are you unable to use an ethernet cable?19:50
fsmithredand have you tried ignoring the screen that asks you to insert a usb with wireless firmware?19:51
fsmithredjust proceed without it. It will get installed unless it's one of a couple broadcom sets that require you have a network connection first.19:52
Guest7542p0 I can set android to usb tethering and plug to devuan but what's next to get ethernet connection?19:56
Guest7542fsmithred I have an ethernet cable but LAN won't work properly with the windows pc19:57
fsmithredwon't work right how?  Any error message?19:58
Guest7542I didn't see something similar to the next screen you mentioned19:58
fsmithredandroid connects to a wireless router, set it usb tethering ON, set computer to use usb0 as the network interface19:59
Guest7542can't connect, tried several ways/tutorials with either devuan or windows as the LAN creator19:59
fsmithredin wicd, probably19:59
Guest7542can it work if android is the router as in my case?20:00
fsmithredyou already installed the system, or you are trying to install the system?20:00
fsmithredyou're trying to use a cell phone signal?20:00
Guest7542i've installed the system succefully20:00
Guest7542yup, don't have a modem here20:01
fsmithrednot sure, but you might need another piece of hardware20:01
guest93fsmithred sorry I lost the connection. Phone seems able to support both wireless and tethering at the same time. Could it work? What did you say I should do in Wicd?20:07
fsmithredgo to Preferences (upper-right triangle/arrow)20:08
fsmithredset the default wireless device20:08
fsmithredprobably usb020:08
fsmithredip a20:08
fsmithredwill show your interfaces20:08
guest93it shows an interface 5 after 3, at usb0, says it's down20:09
guest93maybe usb0 (or whatever) at wired instead of wireless?20:10
fsmithredoh yeah20:10
fsmithredwired interface for the usb20:10
guest93still says it's down20:11
fsmithredin wicd, click on Connect20:12
fsmithredfor the wired interface, I guess20:12
guest93with not properties set to anything?20:12
fsmithredyeah, you shouldn['t need to change anything for a wired interface20:13
guest93It worked!20:13
guest93thanks20:13
fsmithredcool20:14
masonstr0mer: I've reproduced your "Try again later" message. Never seen that before.20:24
masonPoking at it anyway.20:27
masonstr0mer: https://www.kulesz.me/post/140-debian-devuan-arm64-install/ discusses the issue. I'm looking at their workaround.20:29
str0merexit 1 commented out in the cryptfsroot-unlock20:33
masonstr0mer: Ah, you've found and tried that already, and it's hanging after that?20:35
masonHonestly, the last set of systems I used that used dropbear-initramfs were Ubuntu, and it all just worked, so this is my first foray into trying to get it going under Devuan. There might be some sneaky dependencies that come in from Debian.20:37
str0merthats work20:37
masonstr0mer: Oh, it worked when you tried the fix?20:37
masonOr you use Ubuntu at work? Sorry, I've missed some semantics.20:37
str0meri change cryptfsroot-unlock on beowulf and update the initramfs20:40
masonstr0mer: Did it work? Is it fixed for you now?20:40
str0meryes20:40
masonGood! :)20:40
str0merthanks :)20:41
str0meris my first setup with devuan20:45
masonstr0mer: Good. We hope you enjoy it.20:46
Guest93So I installed the headers and build essential, but make all for the wireless usb drivers results in several errors20:52
Guest93like:20:54
Guest93error: ‘_timer’ {aka ‘struct timer_list’} has no member named ‘data’20:55
Guest93  ptimer->data = (unsigned long)cntx;20:55
Guest93error: implicit declaration of function ‘init_timer’; did you mean ‘_init_timer’?20:55

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