eyalroz | Hello channel peops, | 00:13 |
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mason | mdt: The only thing I depend on that links libelogind0 at present (at least for the server where I was testing this) was OpenSSH, and that, coming from OpenBSD, clearly doesn't require it itself, so can be forked. | 00:14 |
eyalroz | quick question: Installing chimaera: Should I use the new alpha netinst image, or should I install beowulf, edit the APT sources and dist-upgrade? | 00:14 |
mason | As for elogind, as fsmithred says, it's pretty easy to avoid. | 00:14 |
golinux | eyalroz: Feedback on the alphas would be appreciated but either method works | 00:17 |
eyalroz | golinux: Is there reason to believe they would be flakey? | 00:18 |
eyalroz | s/they/the alpha iso's/ | 00:18 |
golinux | No. | 00:20 |
golinux | Just want to make sure nothing is missing etc. | 00:20 |
eyalroz | golinux: Ok, then I'll try the alpha then | 00:22 |
eyalroz | I'm not in the mood for bug-filing though, I filed 20, yes 20, bugs against LO Impress over the past 4 days. | 00:23 |
Xenguy | you guys are dope, keep it up | 03:09 |
omen | do i set time/locale settings just like in debian? I think my settings are scuffed | 07:48 |
omen | tmux shows me wrong time and xfce clock just straight up crashes | 07:49 |
mason | omen: dpkg-reconfigure tzdata | 07:50 |
omen | missing a space? | 07:50 |
mason | omen: Are you? | 07:51 |
mason | omen: If so, do it like what I typed. | 07:51 |
omen | I mean I have no package called dpkg-reconfigure | 07:51 |
omen | oh I just needed root | 07:51 |
mason | omen: FWIW, you can also do it the traditional way and link /etc/localtime appropriately. | 07:53 |
omen | uh i think i need to set UTC time and not local in my BIOS | 07:53 |
mason | Generally, yeah, unless you're dual-booting Windows. | 07:53 |
omen | ty mason, brb | 07:53 |
mason | Also, dpkg-reconfigure locales | 07:53 |
omen | works perfect now. Had to remove and add the xfce clock again to fix that also | 08:06 |
mason | good good | 08:08 |
mason | Alright, hitting the sack. G'night. | 08:08 |
ShorTie | what package is xtables_legacy_multi-xshared.o and xtables_nft_multi-xshared.o in ?? | 20:00 |
rwp | ShorTie, It's a .o file so it would not normally be in any package. It would be a temporary build object resulting from local compilation. | 20:20 |
rwp | ShorTie, I would suspect it would be in available from build dependencies of the iptables package. | 20:21 |
ShorTie | hmmm, ok | 21:15 |
ShorTie | Thankz | 21:15 |
ShorTie | iptables is the 1 that maker them, like /root/swe/debs-sources/iptables-1.8.7/iptables/xtables_nft_multi-xshared.o | 21:17 |
ShorTie | s/maker/makes | 21:18 |
chomwitt | i did a fresh install of Beowulf in a cloud server. i selected runit as service manager. How do i restart sshd ? | 21:52 |
rwp | chomwitt, AFAIK the runit services use the "sv" program. So (I think) "sv restart foo" would do it. But caution on my advice since I am only somewhat familiar with runit. | 21:57 |
chomwitt | ok , thanks rwp . i'll try it | 21:58 |
rwp | chomwitt, Here is a good reference for all things runit related: http://smarden.org/runit/ | 22:01 |
plasma41 | chomwitt: see also /usr/share/doc/runit/html/index.html | 22:01 |
chomwitt | i've looked at files in package openssh-server and not seen any related service dirs with files like run .. | 22:17 |
chomwitt | plasma41, ok but its a vps controlled with a terminal | 22:18 |
chomwitt | plasma41, so i need a text based browser first! | 22:19 |
chomwitt | i wonder what is the usual way to control a devuan vps , a terminal with tmux or with remote desktop utility? | 22:22 |
plasma41 | chomwitt: lynx is my text-based browser of choice. | 22:26 |
plasma41 | chomwitt: run `dpkg -L runit | grep man8` on the system running runit for a list of all the manpages. | 22:29 |
plasma41 | chomwitt: I you'll find your service directories by running `dpkg -L openssh-server`. | 22:32 |
chomwitt | yep lynx!! | 22:33 |
plasma41 | chomwitt: s/I you'll/I think you'll/ | 22:33 |
* sadsnork just ssh'es to his Devuan VPS's | 22:33 | |
sadsnork | Is that wrong? | 22:33 |
plasma41 | sadsnork: If it works, no. | 22:35 |
chomwitt | plasma41, ``dpkg -L openssh-server' gives /etc/init.d/ssh and systemd stuff only | 22:37 |
plasma41 | chomwitt: does it list any files under /etc/sv/ ? | 22:38 |
chomwitt | no | 22:38 |
chomwitt | https://pkginfo.devuan.org/cgi-bin/package-query.html?c=package&q=openssh-server=1:7.9p1-10+deb10u2 | 22:40 |
chomwitt | aha!!! | 22:40 |
chomwitt | chimaera | 22:41 |
plasma41 | chomwitt: Yes, looking at the right version is indeed important. | 22:42 |
plasma41 | chomwitt: `dpkg --status openssh-server | grep Version` to see the currently installed version | 22:43 |
chomwitt | 1:7.9p1-10+deb10u2 | 22:44 |
chomwitt | so what are my options.. i guess runit emulates sysvinit | 22:45 |
chomwitt | do i try Chimaera? | 22:46 |
chomwitt | is it like testing in debian ? | 22:46 |
sgage | yes, just like testing in debian. Been working great for me for months. | 22:48 |
plasma41 | chomwitt: you can either switch to Chimaera or try installing the chimaera version of openssh-server or download the chimaera openssh package and compile the package locally. | 22:51 |
chomwitt | so it seems runit is a work in progress i guess | 22:51 |
chomwitt | i prefer to switch to chimaera. | 22:52 |
* chomwitt is happy that devuan has an online pkginfo.devuan.org service.. cool | 22:54 | |
plasma41 | chomwitt: pkginfo.devuan.org is indeed really neat. | 22:55 |
plasma41 | ^Hear that, rrq? | 22:55 |
chomwitt | should i do a fresh install or upgrade from Beowulf to Chimaera ? | 22:58 |
fsmithred | runit discussion: https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=3716 | 22:59 |
plasma41 | chomwitt: A fresh install is likely to give you the least trouble. I'm not currently aware of any issues in the Beowulf-to-Chimaera upgrade path, but I also haven't tried it myself yet. | 23:00 |
sgage | I've done said update several times with no problems. | 23:01 |
chomwitt | fsmithred, thanks. | 23:03 |
chomwitt | ok. see you. i'll try fresh since is already a fresh install. i asked upcloud to create a devuan cdrom iso to speed things up | 23:04 |
chomwitt | but i think i should tell them to include chimeara too | 23:05 |
chomwitt | not sure if they care thougth | 23:05 |
plasma41 | chomwitt: I'm currently running a Beowulf/Chimaera hybrid system, but it's a totally unsupported setup. I only do it because I'm confident enough in my understanding of the inner workings of Devuan to be about to troubleshoot and fix it when it breaks. | 23:12 |
plasma41 | chomwitt: and it has indeed broken at times so I have had to figure out why and fix it | 23:12 |
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