libera/#devuan/ Monday, 2021-06-21

* enyc hrrrms at "< IanJ> You have more influence than you think. Just by talking to people, starts a ripple that moves outwards. Share your ideas and concerns."01:05
XenguyI used to try to spread the good word, about Linux and free software, but no one every seemed to listen, or get it...02:41
XenguySo nowadays I just do my thing, and occasionally point and laugh02:42
XenguyIf someone shows interest, sure, I'm right there.  But no more pearls before swine02:42
golinuxThe wisdom of maturity.03:04
golinuxFurther conversation to offtopic, please.  :)03:05
brocashelmsince ceres and chimaera are very similar right now, one could switch to chimaera from ceres and wait awhile until future package versions come from chimaera/stable instead of ceres, right?09:41
gnarfaceno guarantees but probably09:50
user_what is the wine version in Chimaera?17:57
brocashelm5.0.3-3 (for ceres)18:00
brocashelm6.0.1 (for winehq-stable in buster/bullseye)18:01
* user_ is stumped. freecode has lftp 4.5.2 announced this June 18th and Beowulf has lftp 4.8.4 from 2017 ... WHAT18:15
user_I think that's 18th June but not 2021?18:22
user_Indeed, upstream current is 4.9.2 http://lftp.yar.ru/18:23
DashiePieuser_: development is also 5.5 for me, I don't know if that'll change until Chimaera officially releases18:25
DashiePie5.5-9*, excuse me18:25
user_Ok, thanks.18:29
user_The freshcode/freshmeat "reborn" jungle of sites has jump-to-frozen-past-releases "features". Beware. freshfoss.com seems to be the up to date (today) site.18:31
user_Is anyone editing javascript on devuan with vim? I have issues with the highligher, it screws up frequently and massively. I wonder if newer versions fare better (newer than 8.1 Beowulf current)18:33
user_Latest official vim release is 8.2.3017 (wow).18:34
user_Markdown edits are also affected.18:34
user_https://freshfoss.com/projects/shotcut this does not exist in devuan or debian. Planned?18:37
* user_ cringes at the Blender like interface UI18:38
golinuxuser_: If it's not is Debian, the answer is no.18:48
xrogaanuser_: if you would use wine for gaming, I would suggest lutris19:24
xrogaanor, even if it's not gaming. They propose different wine builds and manage each app into their own space.19:25
terminus1So I know this maybe random but I once managed to get devuan to mine crypto coins using ubuntu's repo for firmware drivers for amd and nvidia gpu's. It was very interesting to see devuan perform well without systemD.19:47
masonuser_: FWIW, the shotcut AppImage works fine. I run it on Beowulf.20:46
xrogaan(shame!)22:52
systemdleteos-probe is not detecting a second devuan install -- I have ascii and beowulf installed on the same machine.23:02
systemdleteos-probe does detect a hyperlinux partition though.23:03
rwpsystemdlete, It's possible you might need to take manual control and add a scriptlet to produce boot entries for those other systems.23:42

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