| luser978 | ksx4system: find out which runlevel starts networking, should have Sxx with xx < S03 your lighttpd has. | 02:15 |
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| mason | Devuan uses Debian's runlevel model. 2-5 are all sort of an undifferentiated glob | 03:38 |
| Amigoftg | Hi | 04:30 |
| luser978 | mason find /etc/rc* -name 'S??network*' | 10:15 |
| darkeye | Hi, | 13:14 |
| darkeye | Do you suggest upgrading to ceres? | 13:14 |
| jason1235 | hello guys | 13:23 |
| jason1235 | can you offer a squashfs of your devuan ascii ... releases on your Website as well? | 13:23 |
| Digit | does the packaged termonad lack some dependencies for configuring with haskell? fails to find Termonad.App, Termonad.Config, Termonad.Config.Colour. ~ never mind, i think i've given up on it for now. back at it later. | 13:23 |
| jason1235 | on your website, is it posisble to have gzip files, and not the unxz. unxz is bloat, like your systemd | 13:30 |
| fsmithred | jason1235, you can pull a squashfs out of the live isos | 13:40 |
| brocashelm | darkeye: i use ceres and have no problems. what made you curious about trying it out? | 13:42 |
| fsmithred | jason1235, if you're talking about the embedded images, there already are gzip files. If you mean the virtual images, it won't happen - nobody is making those images right now. | 13:49 |
| furrymcgee | how to get nix-shell in devuan? | 13:51 |
| luser978 | ? | 14:04 |
| jason1235 | fsmithred: I just did it for openpandora | 14:15 |
| jason1235 | fsmithred: unxz and losetup and then cp -a to disk, and copy boot and lib-modules | 14:15 |
| jason1235 | furrymcgee: apt-get install bash ; ... or if you have nothing, just use tsh. | 14:17 |
| jason1235 | furrymcgee: I cannot make systemd, and you? | 14:20 |
| furrymcgee | apt install nix-bin/ceres --no-install-recommends | 14:26 |
| fsmithred | furrymcgee, is this what you're looking for? https://nixos.org/manual/nix/unstable/installation/installation.html | 14:26 |
| furrymcgee | it is in ceres, thank you very much | 14:27 |
| jason1235 | that's amazing that today, nowadays systemd is everywhere :( | 14:27 |
| fsmithred | under what package name is it in ceres? | 14:28 |
| furrymcgee | nix-bin | 14:28 |
| fsmithred | are you running chimaera or ceres? | 14:29 |
| fsmithred | I just tried installing it on beowulf, and it would be a big mess | 14:30 |
| furrymcgee | beowulf with ceres in sources.list | 14:34 |
| fsmithred | furrymcgee, you would probably have better luck with chimaera mixed with ceres. They are nearly the same right now. | 15:02 |
| fsmithred | and chimaera is pretty stable at this point. It's based on bullseye which is in freeze. | 15:03 |
| brocashelm | how long until chimaera is released after bullseye is released? | 15:04 |
| fsmithred | hard to say. I think this time will be a lot faster than the last few | 15:04 |
| brocashelm | that's good. then, daedalus will be the next testing repo | 15:05 |
| fsmithred | probably a couple months, maybe a little more. | 15:05 |
| brocashelm | oh | 15:05 |
| fsmithred | I'm guessing | 15:05 |
| brocashelm | and ceres will still be frozen by then? | 15:05 |
| fsmithred | jessie was two years late, ascii and beowulf were about a year late | 15:05 |
| fsmithred | ceres is never frozen | 15:05 |
| fsmithred | ceres=sid | 15:05 |
| brocashelm | true, although updates have been pretty slow lately. that means once bullseye is released, progress with sid will immediately resume? | 15:06 |
| fsmithred | unlike the previous releases, chimaera already has a lot of the work done. | 15:06 |
| fsmithred | early | 15:06 |
| fsmithred | yeah, after release, there's usually a short dead zone, then things pick up | 15:07 |
| brocashelm | cool | 15:07 |
| furrymcgee | nixpkgs.quickjs | 17:20 |
| furrymcgee | dh_auto_test fails when building quickjs https://paste.debian.net/plain/1203384 make test is fine though | 17:21 |
| furrymcgee | at <anonymous> (tests/test_std.js:278) | 17:24 |
| furrymcgee | assert os.isatty | 17:25 |
| jason1235 | i tried to make a devuan for openpandora emmbedded with ascii. do you want this image? | 18:42 |
| golinux | jason1234: Maybe present it and ask your question here: https://dev1galaxy.org/viewforum.php?id=24 | 18:49 |
| golinux | Or #devuan-arm | 18:50 |
| golinux | Not that I have a clue about what openpandora is. | 18:50 |
| golinux | But that is where user-contributed images are discussed, vetted and made available | 18:52 |
| jason1235 | You can find the devuan ascii for the openpandora ... ;) running well: https://gitlab.com/openbsd98324/openpandora-devuan (It contains the default devuan with the added libs and firm). | 19:59 |
| Wafficus | hey there, can anyone please help me figure out why Retroarch via DOSBOX Pure core isn't producing sound on Devuan? | 20:17 |
| Wafficus | My ALSA config works just fine for programs, and sound works | 20:18 |
| Wafficus | Firefox also works for sound too | 20:18 |
| jason1235 | Wafficus: devuan has a old kernel, you wont get hdmi sound | 20:24 |
| jason1235 | if you use this, you will get sound (hdmi): https://gitlab.com/openbsd98324/retrogaming-ps2 just do then: pacman -S retroarch | 20:25 |
| Wafficus | sound is going through my sound interface though | 20:25 |
| Wafficus | do you think I need to specify it within the settings? | 20:26 |
| Wafficus | *Scarlett Solo (2nd Gen) interface | 20:26 |
| jason1235 | ah, if sounds work, just then use ~/.asoundrc | 20:26 |
| Wafficus | *settings for DOSBox Pure core within Retro Arch | 20:26 |
| Wafficus | wait pacman is on Arch distros | 20:26 |
| jason1235 | please find a basic classic ~/.asoundrc https://termbin.com/9w0g | 20:26 |
| Wafficus | this is for my Devuan dekstop | 20:26 |
| jason1235 | then, likely: pavucontrol <-- to set your card | 20:27 |
| Wafficus | I have this for ~/.asoundrc: | 20:27 |
| Wafficus | defaults.pcm.!card USB | 20:27 |
| Wafficus | defaults.ctl.!card USB | 20:28 |
| Wafficus | defaults.pcm.!device 0 | 20:28 |
| jason1235 | try mine, it is more stable | 20:28 |
| jason1235 | or install the bloatware pavucontrol | 20:28 |
| jason1235 | aplay -l will test you your cards | 20:29 |
| Wafficus | GOT IT | 20:36 |
| Wafficus | got it * | 20:36 |
| Wafficus | sorry about the caps | 20:36 |
| Wafficus | so basically I had to follow an old Manjaro post on this | 20:36 |
| Wafficus | but the idea is that you have to use "rm ~/.config/pulse -rf" | 20:36 |
| Wafficus | then do "pulseaudio --check" and "pulseaudio -D" | 20:37 |
| mason | Do we know if devuan_beowulf_3.1.0_amd64_minimal-live.iso is supposed to boot on UEFI? The desktop version boots, but minimal seems not to for me. Writing out a fresh one to test again. | 20:46 |
| jason1235 | i am not so sure if legacy will be supported in future. linux want to go uefi largely. | 20:48 |
| mason | It'll take a while for legacy to go away. Most VMs are legacy by default nowadays still. | 20:51 |
| clemens3 | who is this linux your are talking about.. | 20:55 |
| jason1235 | #linux channel, they love all the bloat. systemd, uefi,... and all those stuffs. nothing like unix, this is modern living linux | 20:58 |
| mason | UEFI isn't unreasonable. It's a lot more like Open Firmware on Sun systems. | 21:03 |
| mason | In that sense it's very Unixy. | 21:03 |
| jason1235 | mason: to force users and to drop things is really reasonable. linux users just accept passively, without doing anyhting. | 21:05 |
| golinux | jason1234: Not this crowd. We are the resistance | 21:11 |
| golinux | But this discussion is more suitable to OT . . . | 21:12 |
| DPA | I think EFI good, UEFI bad. | 21:12 |
| DPA | (btw. I think only secure boot is a major problem) | 21:17 |
| jason1235 | golinux: come one. you use debian, there is nothing good to follow, debian will bring you to death, as before with systemd and prev stories | 21:22 |
| golinux | jason1234: What you say is true. But at 79 minus a few days chances are Devuan will be usable for the remainder of this lifetime. | 21:29 |
| golinux | I am nearly unplugged anyway. | 21:30 |
| * golinux has never liked machines of any kind very much very much | 21:31 | |
| jason1235 | the last changes of debian on the main system (su, use... default) are too weird. Seriously. debian looks like nothing now | 21:32 |
| golinux | Then why are you here? This is a Devuan support channel. Not an anti-debian channel | 21:34 |
| golinux | Please take your political stuff to #devuan-offtopic | 21:34 |
| diegs | ยป [15:31:59] *golinux has never liked machines of any kind very much very much | 21:35 |
| diegs | hmm maybe you should take a break from them | 21:35 |
| golinux | Getting close. Please take it to -offtopic | 21:36 |
| diegs | D: | 21:36 |
| diegs | chill | 21:36 |
| golinux | What does that have to do with devuan exactly? Please take it to OT. | 21:37 |
| Wafficus | golinux: what happens in 79 days | 22:12 |
| Wafficus | what, forcing ARM processors only into the kernel, or Windows 11? | 22:12 |
| golinux | Wafficus: Nothing. Reread | 22:13 |
| Wafficus | I did reread | 22:14 |
| Wafficus | I joined later | 22:14 |
| Wafficus | what happens in 79 days? golinux | 22:14 |
| Xenguy | Wafficus, not 'days' | 22:18 |
| wolf912 | hi | 22:33 |
| wolf912 | midi on envy1712 does not work, need help | 22:34 |
| Xenguy | .oO( good questions get better answers ... ) | 22:36 |
| unclouded | Xenguy: What would my girlfriend like for her birthday? | 23:27 |
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