| Xenguy | unclouded, The Oracle Says: "A nice dinner at her favorite restaurant, and Chimeara installed on her PC when she returns home" | 00:16 |
|---|---|---|
| Xenguy | Chimaera even | 00:16 |
| unclouded | Xenguy: OMG you are right about the good questions, thank you so much! | 00:48 |
| Xenguy | unclouded, What did you expect, your question was not a good one = ) | 01:29 |
| golinux | <Xenguy> .oO( good questions get better answers ... ) | 01:38 |
| golinux | The one about his GF was | 01:49 |
| adhoc | good questions takes time and practice | 01:49 |
| adhoc | if teaching high school and uni kids has taught me anything, better questions come with better language comprehension and domain knowledge | 01:50 |
| adhoc | (and interest) | 01:50 |
| Xenguy | Fascinating, we are now wandering OT, and the whole thread seems to be starting to lurch in a drunken fashion... | 01:53 |
| Xenguy | The original statement up-buffer that prompted this strange chemical reaction was: "midi on envy1712 does not work, need help" | 01:53 |
| Xenguy | Kruppt, You're just in time! | 01:54 |
| jason1235 | X11 is dead... really. it looks like. devuan will maintain X in future? Ex: archlinux does not offer X11 games, like xdemineur, xsol, xbomb,... and so do Ubuntu and co. | 09:24 |
| schillingklaus | there are enough terminal games, so no need for others | 09:26 |
| chozorho | X11 is not dead yet-!! | 09:27 |
| diegs | expect x12 | 09:28 |
| diegs | wayland <3 redhat | 09:28 |
| schillingklaus | bullseye preliminary package list still contains a lot of x11-based games | 09:28 |
| chozorho | btw... dumb question but: if my game is built on SDL2, then it can still work on Wayland, right? | 09:30 |
| chozorho | I guess I'll have to test it | 09:31 |
| schillingklaus | xmahjjong, for example, is pure x11 and still available on bullseye | 09:34 |
| schillingklaus | xsol also keeps on being available | 09:42 |
| diegs | chozorho: I think so0 | 09:49 |
| schillingklaus | chozorho disappeared too fast | 09:52 |
| diegs | yeah | 09:52 |
| __user | Any work going on to port wicd to python3? | 09:52 |
| schillingklaus | wicd is dead | 09:58 |
| jason1235 | chozorho: SDL 1.2 and SDL 2 are not compatible. this makes fun to use SDL. you can still use GL, that is even less compatible. But be patient with Wayland or X/Wayland it will be even worse. Welcome to Linux ! | 16:10 |
| schillingklaus | there are still enough games which don't need sdl, qt, mesa, or gtk | 16:12 |
| GyrosGeier | basically whoever uses GL should use GLut to open a window with whatever OS dependent mechanism is there | 16:33 |
| GyrosGeier | that, or just copy the boilerplate code | 16:33 |
| GyrosGeier | once you have a drawable target, GL is very much compatible and portable | 16:33 |
| golinux | This is not really a Devuan support issue. Please take it to #devuan-offtopic | 16:34 |
| golinux | And <jason1235> . . . please stop trying to stir the pot here. Take it to OT | 16:34 |
| hagbard | Today i updated desktop-base (to 1.40) & dependencies (devuan testing). Now grub complains at boot about missing files from the deepsea-theme. And all icons in the xfce4 start menu are gone, regardless of which icon theme is set. | 19:26 |
| hagbard | What went wrong, and how do i fix those 2 things? | 19:27 |
| ayao | help needed concerning wine | 19:27 |
| golinux | fsmithred: ^^^ | 19:29 |
| brocashelm | ayao: what's the problem you're experiencing? | 19:29 |
| ayao | i try install winetricks but it's absent in repository | 19:29 |
| ayao | i installed wine and wine32 | 19:29 |
| brocashelm | which devuan are you using? beowulf or ascii? | 19:30 |
| ayao | do i need create a second prefix for wine32? | 19:30 |
| ayao | i have beowulf | 19:30 |
| brocashelm | winetricks is absent in beowulf's repository? am i hearing you right? | 19:31 |
| ayao | yes | 19:31 |
| brocashelm | so, sudo apt show winetricks yields no results? | 19:31 |
| ayao | yes | 19:31 |
| ayao | you understand correctly - gives no results | 19:32 |
| brocashelm | what does your sources.list look like? i can see it here. you need to add contrib to your repo | 19:33 |
| brocashelm | for example: deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged/ beowulf main contrib | 19:33 |
| brocashelm | and then run sudo apt update | 19:33 |
| fsmithred | hagbard, is the root filesystem encrypted? | 19:33 |
| hagbard | yes | 19:34 |
| fsmithred | then the theme won't show. You have to copy the theme into /boot/grub/themes or something like that | 19:34 |
| fsmithred | I don't recall exactly | 19:34 |
| ayao | deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf main | 19:34 |
| ayao | deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf-updates main | 19:34 |
| ayao | deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf-security main | 19:34 |
| ayao | #deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf-backports main | 19:34 |
| ayao | ## source repositories | 19:34 |
| ayao | #deb-src http://deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf main | 19:34 |
| ayao | #deb-src http://deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf-updates main | 19:34 |
| ayao | #deb-src http://deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf-security main | 19:35 |
| fsmithred | ayao stop | 19:35 |
| ayao | #deb-src http://deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf-backports main | 19:35 |
| fsmithred | before you get auto-booted | 19:35 |
| brocashelm | ayao: as i said, add contrib next to main | 19:35 |
| fsmithred | for posting too many lines | 19:35 |
| ayao | ok | 19:35 |
| hagbard | ah, ok. WIll just turn the theme off in /etc/default/grub | 19:35 |
| brocashelm | ayao: next time, feel free to use pastebin or another similar paste site | 19:35 |
| fsmithred | paste.debian.net | 19:35 |
| brocashelm | for example: deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged/ beowulf main contrib | 19:35 |
| brocashelm | ^ try that | 19:35 |
| ayao | i wanted to send pm | 19:35 |
| ayao | but don't know how | 19:35 |
| fsmithred | hagbard, yeah, that works, too but you'll be missing the beautiful colors | 19:36 |
| brocashelm | winetricks is not on the main repo | 19:36 |
| hagbard | Any idea about the menu icons? | 19:36 |
| fsmithred | hagbard, I was reading about missing menu icons in new xfce, but I don't recall what the issue was. I was looking for something else. | 19:40 |
| fsmithred | hang on | 19:40 |
| ayao | can you tell me how to create prefixes? | 19:41 |
| ayao | wine just installed wine and wine64 and created .wine\drive_c | 19:42 |
| ayao | is it 64bit prefix? | 19:42 |
| hagbard | I think the theme got added to /etc/default/grub by an update script. Maybe this shouldn't be done if it already contains GRUB_ENABLE_CRYPTODISK=y, or if there's a crypttab entry with "/". | 19:43 |
| fsmithred | that's a good suggestion. | 19:44 |
| fsmithred | and we're currently working on a script that is the perfect place to put that test. | 19:45 |
| brocashelm | ayao: open a terminal and run this (change username to your actual username): WINEARCH=win32 WINEPREFIX="/home/username/.newprefix32/" winecfg | 19:45 |
| brocashelm | oh, already left... | 19:45 |
| jemadux | why somone should someone ditch systemd ? | 21:18 |
| jemadux | * why somone should ditch systemd ? | 21:27 |
| sixwheeledbeast | try on #debainfork jemadux | 21:31 |
| sadsnork | jemadux, there are people who believe systemd is too big, does too may things, has various security problems, and is being pushed in to GNU/Linux by corporate interests. The Devuan site has some info on non-systemd resources here. https://www.devuan.org/os/init-freedom And some people like the description of systemd here. http://suckless.org/sucks/systemd/ | 21:31 |
| sadsnork | One of my personal reasons for ditching systemd was because I wanted [better] control over my DNS settings. | 21:33 |
| jemadux | sadsnork: do you think openrc is better ? | 21:48 |
| mason | jemadux: #devuan-offtopic is the place for this. This right here is a support channel for Devuan. | 21:50 |
| sadsnork | I think systemd is a pain in my ass, so I avoid it. What is best for you is a personal preference... that's the "freedom" in init freedom. | 21:50 |
| sadsnork | Sorry, my bad... I should have replied elsewhere too. | 21:51 |
| mason | No worries. Just saying. | 21:51 |
| brocashelm | jemadux: type /join #devuan-offtopic and you might get a response to your question(s) there | 22:03 |
| brocashelm | this channel is for general support | 22:04 |
| golinux | brocashelm: Thanks for that | 22:06 |
| brocashelm | np | 22:07 |
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