| ayao | why I can't paste text from buffer to running in wine program? it's pasted only partially | 00:25 |
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| gnarface | it's an issue with which clipboards are shared with what | 00:28 |
| ayao | can it be fixed somehow? | 00:29 |
| gnarface | the simplest way to work around it without understanding what is happening is to open the text in a gui program instead of a terminal | 00:29 |
| gnarface | ctrl+v in wine should properly be able to paste from the clipboard that various gtk programs share | 00:30 |
| ayao | i use not terminal i copy from textpad to wine's text pad | 00:30 |
| gnarface | oh | 00:30 |
| gnarface | hmmm, that's odder, could be a bug in your wine version. which wine is it? | 00:30 |
| gnarface | the one in the repo is ancient | 00:30 |
| ayao | wine-6.12 (Staging) | 00:31 |
| gnarface | hmm, brand new | 00:31 |
| gnarface | disturbing | 00:31 |
| gnarface | maybe just a character limit? when you say partially, what do you mean? can you do single whole lines at a time reliably but just not large blocks of multi-page text? | 00:32 |
| gnarface | is the paste being truncated or garbled some other way? | 00:33 |
| ayao | like instead 2000 lines only 20 are pasted | 00:33 |
| gnarface | eh, might just be a wine bug | 00:34 |
| gnarface | i can't say i've actually bothered to try to paste more than 1 or two lines at a time | 00:34 |
| gnarface | if all the characters are correct when they get there, then it's not a locale or character mapping issue | 00:34 |
| ayao | can you check with large code? | 00:34 |
| ayao | maybe it's problem with my os | 00:34 |
| ayao | yes they are correct | 00:35 |
| ayao | it looks like buffer is limited | 00:35 |
| gnarface | i'm not seeing that problem here but i don't have 6.12 yet | 00:38 |
| gnarface | also i'm on ceres right now not beowulf | 00:38 |
| gnarface | so ymmv | 00:38 |
| gnarface | does it have to be wine? | 00:38 |
| gnarface | there's a lot of text editors in linux that are better than notepad.exe | 00:39 |
| gnarface | there's even a notepad clone | 00:39 |
| ayao | ok | 00:39 |
| gnarface | it does sound similar to a bug i had seen a long time ago with wine; see if it behaves any better if you don't try to paste from the scrollback buffer; maybe it can only paste what is still on screen at the time | 00:45 |
| gnarface | but like i said, you'd probably be better off just switching to a native text editor | 00:45 |
| gnarface | any of them, really | 00:45 |
| ayao | i agree, better switch to something native | 00:46 |
| ayao | by the way is there something like xfce4-notes but with search function? | 00:47 |
| gnarface | uh, probably but i'm the wrong person to ask | 00:47 |
| gnarface | when i started doing this, there were only two text editors | 00:50 |
| gnarface | now there are dozens but i haven't really tried any of the others | 00:50 |
| gnarface | "apt-cache search [regexp]" can be helpful though if you know regular expressions | 00:51 |
| gnarface | apt-cache search ^notepad | 00:52 |
| gnarface | notepadqq - Notepad++-like editor for Linux | 00:52 |
| gnarface | ^ i found this one, maybe a good start? | 00:52 |
| ayao | ok | 00:52 |
| gnarface | if you go into #devuan-offtopic and ask about text editors i'm sure you'll eventually get a bunch of opinions though | 00:53 |
| sadsnork | Side note: notepadqq is nowhere near as good as notepad++ ... just sayin'. | 02:00 |
| Centurion_Dan | Anyone running a Samba ADDC on devuan? | 03:49 |
| luser978 | notepadqq ayao | 07:29 |
| ethan | Hi, running a bare-bones install of Devuan in a VM. I only have one tty. Pressing Ctrl-alt-F2 through F6 only brings up a blinking cursor but I can't type any input. TTY1 is locked up with a process I wrote my own init script for and I can't kill it to get access to TTY1 | 09:07 |
| ethan | Is there anything I can try that isn't reinstalling? | 09:08 |
| gnarface | you can't just restart the VM? | 09:09 |
| gnarface | or ssh into it to kill X? | 09:09 |
| gnarface | ctrl+alt+backspace might bail out of X but only if you enabled it (it's not on by default anymore) | 09:10 |
| gnarface | ... i think anyway | 09:10 |
| gnarface | i dunno why the other ttys aren't appearing | 09:10 |
| ethan | There is no X here. It's just a server running a gemini site/capsule. It boots right into my init script. It doesn't reboot gracefully either. I have to force shutdown/reboot and it enters different runlevels each time it boots. | 09:14 |
| gnarface | is that something you did to it on purpose? if your setup doesn't start the other tty's they won't be there to ctrl+alt+f2 to | 09:16 |
| gnarface | did you replace the init system entirely or did you just modify the stock one? did you bypass the inittab? | 09:17 |
| gnarface | it might matter what type of VM it is, i don't know for sure | 09:17 |
| ethan | I didn't do that on purpose, I am realizing this is an init issue and not a Devuan issue. You are right, my script is starting too soon to start the other tty's | 09:18 |
| gnarface | if you wanted it to start last you would just add it to /etc/rc.local | 09:19 |
| gnarface | well, you could | 09:19 |
| gnarface | if you look at how the other scripts use symlinks and LSB header fields it isn't too hard to replicate either | 09:20 |
| onefang | The init scripts need to start up their thing as a background deamon, then return, so the next script can run. | 09:21 |
| gnarface | that's the general idea but they don't start linearly anymore | 09:21 |
| gnarface | there's dependency based logic available (that's what the LSB headers do) | 09:22 |
| gnarface | you could key it to start when the stuff it needs is started | 09:22 |
| onefang | "TTY1 is locked up with a process I wrote my own init script for" is implying it's not returning so other things, like the other TTYs, can start up. | 09:22 |
| ethan | yeah, It was my first attempt at making a script for sysV. I grabbed a template from LSB documentation and tweaked it. It seems pretty messed up, it doesn't even start ssh. | 09:28 |
| ethan | thanks for the help. I will have to reinstall I think. Cheers | 09:53 |
| unclouded | oh, ethan left. kernel parameter "init=/bin/bash" has helped me in the past | 10:53 |
| humpelstilzchen[ | I had no need for init= parameter since I installed grml-rescueboot | 11:35 |
| aiao | how can I disable cups? | 18:57 |
| user___ | I love people who pop in and out before anyone answers. | 19:04 |
| user___ | /etc/init.d/cups stop; /etc/init.d/cups-browsed stop | 19:04 |
| user___ | Then then update-rc.d cups disable; update-rc.d cups-browsed disable | 19:05 |
| aiao | ok | 19:11 |
| aiao | thankx | 19:11 |
| aiao | before then? | 19:12 |
| aiao | type again it's lost | 19:12 |
| fling | How to get snapd on chimaera? | 19:40 |
| schillingklaus | snapd depends on systemd | 19:41 |
| golinux | fling: https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/bannedpackages.txt | 19:54 |
| nemo | good riddance | 19:55 |
| nemo | what would one want snapd for anyway. | 19:55 |
| wolf92 | do i need dbus service? | 19:55 |
| golinux | If you want a desktop probably | 19:59 |
| golinux | a working desktop that is. | 19:59 |
| wolf92 | and what about hddtemp lmsensors? | 20:01 |
| fsmithred | apt rdepends <package> | 20:02 |
| fsmithred | to see what depends on a package | 20:02 |
| fsmithred | or 'aptitude why <package>' | 20:02 |
| UsL | "why"? Haha, I didn't know that. | 20:03 |
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