| chomwitt | hi | 00:43 |
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| plasma41 | chomwitt: o/ | 00:46 |
| chomwitt | i just install Devuan4 on my desktop with LXQt and runit | 01:05 |
| diegs | yey | 01:16 |
| aplainzetakind | What's in the 'console productivity' item of the software selection section of the installer? | 12:59 |
| rrq | https://pkginfo.devuan.org/cgi-bin/package-query.html?c=package&q=task-console-productivity=3.68+devuan1 | 13:02 |
| aplainzetakind | Thanks. | 13:05 |
| debdog | hehe, bsdgames | 13:05 |
| aplainzetakind | Hmm. Post installation, I get a grub prompt instead of a menu. | 13:28 |
| fsmithred | aplainzetakind, what did you install? (what iso did you use?) | 14:36 |
| fsmithred | uefi or legacy bios boot? | 14:36 |
| aplainzetakind | fsmithred: After a bunch of retries, it worked. | 14:38 |
| aplainzetakind | Reinstalling without making a change to the EFI or GRUB partitions seems to end up with a broken boot. | 14:38 |
| aplainzetakind | Despite grub being reinstalled apparently. | 14:39 |
| fsmithred | one problem that people run into is the signed grub-efi package. Sometimes removing that is what is needed. Use the unsigned if you're not using secure boot. | 14:41 |
| fsmithred | apt remove grub-efi-amd64-signed | 14:41 |
| fsmithred | grub-efi-amd64 will remain | 14:41 |
| aplainzetakind | Everyhing seems fine now, but I had to create a new partition table. | 14:54 |
| fsmithred | did you need to change the type of partition table? | 15:00 |
| fsmithred | and did you install beowulf or chimaera? | 15:02 |
| rwp | aplainzetakind, It seems somewhat concerning that "After a bunch of retries, it worked." and that "had to create a new partition table" neither of which are normal. | 19:50 |
| rwp | Therefore I worry that there is some deeper problem that is causing this trouble. | 19:50 |
| aplainzetakind | rwp: Such as? Hardware? | 21:01 |
| golinux | aplainzetakind: Perhaps this is relevant? https://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?pid=61556#p61556 | 21:30 |
| golinux | Some one the icons in Xfce/chimaera have been redesigned and are FUGLY | 21:31 |
| golinux | Oops wrong place | 21:32 |
| rwp | aplainzetakind, No idea. Works perfectly here. Why would running something multiple times result suddenly in a different result? Why did the installer's partition table need to be created again new? No idea. But it's not normal. | 22:40 |
| aplainzetakind | rwp: Multiple times didn't really work. Doing something to destroy the old grub/efi partitions worked. Somehow something from the old install lingered is my guess. | 22:56 |
| aplainzetakind | Just reinstalling grub to the existing grub partition turned out borked. | 22:57 |
| nemo | what fun... I have like 15 perl packages that depend on old version of perl | 23:04 |
| nemo | and are blocking update to new perl | 23:04 |
| nemo | ok fine. I run perl-updater --all-modules | 23:04 |
| nemo | which errors because dev-perl/Math-Base36 depends on EAPI 8 which depends on new portage which is what I am currently struggling to update | 23:05 |
| nemo | wheeeee | 23:05 |
| nemo | bah. time to do something less frustrating with my day | 23:05 |
| nemo | hm. maybe I can make a temporary old api ebuild | 23:05 |
| nemo | weird too, it looks like the two versions are identical apart from api bump | 23:06 |
| rwp | aplainzetakind, Have seen multiple reports that people installing Debian/Devuan/Ubuntu/Mint/etc along side Windows causes problems due to the shared ESP EFI partition. | 23:23 |
| rwp | AFAICT the installer does not clean the ESP partition but expects all files there to follow the UEFI protocols and be a shared work space. | 23:23 |
| rwp | Which I assume must work in theory. But have seen multiple reports of problems with people trying to share it with MS boots. | 23:24 |
| rwp | I know nothing about this because none of my systems are multi-boot systems. I just know what people have reported here about it. | 23:24 |
| fsmithred | every motherboard is a snowflake | 23:24 |
| rwp | Sometimes people will say that they decided to wipe the disk and do a clean install and then they report that everything was okay subsequently. (shrug) | 23:25 |
| rwp | nemo, "perl-updater"?? Never heard of it but it sounds like something that manages non-packaged upgrades? Sounds likely to cause conflicts to me... | 23:26 |
| fsmithred | cpan? | 23:26 |
| rwp | Sounds similar but /usr/bin/cpan is a different utility. | 23:27 |
| rwp | One which works with the installed perl to install CPAN modules in /usr/local and is generally well behaved in that regard. | 23:27 |
| plasma41 | nemo: ebuild? Are running some Devuan/Gentoo hybrid? | 23:41 |
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