UsL | indeed | 01:39 |
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lunario_ | https://termbin.com/jeg2 | 09:26 |
lunario_ | i get this fsck error upon boot on devuan chimaera. when i press Ctrl-D it still boots normally into devuan. how can i solve this error? | 09:27 |
unclouded | I guess sda1 isn't your rootfs since it seems to be vfat | 09:34 |
unclouded | curious because `man fsck` says exit code 6 mean uncorrected errors yet the log says the fs is clean | 09:35 |
unclouded | is the "open: No such file or directory" because you have something in fstab that cannot be found? | 09:36 |
lunario_ | unclouded: ahh the fstab might be the reason, i added this line for my walkman: | 09:43 |
lunario_ | UUID=39B8-1D02 /home/no/media/walkman/ vfat noauto,defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 1 | 09:43 |
lunario_ | and the device is not attached while booting | 09:44 |
unclouded | the `-A` option to fsck made me think of fstab | 09:44 |
lunario_ | thanks for the hint | 09:47 |
lunario_ | though i'm surprised about fstab being the reason because the same line in fstab works on my identical other devuan system | 09:48 |
rrq | should be "defaults,noauto,..." (later setting wins) | 09:49 |
unclouded | didn't know about later settings, nice | 09:51 |
lunario_ | with that the error still pops up though | 09:56 |
lunario_ | UUID=39B8-1D02 /home/no/media/walkman/ vfat defaults,noauto,errors=remount-ro 0 1 | 09:56 |
unclouded | I guess noauto doesn't prevent it from being checked? only not mounted auto | 10:23 |
unclouded | I should have read further myself: "Filesystems with a fs_passno value of 0 are skipped and are not checked at all." | 10:24 |
unclouded | and it gets better (last para): "The /etc/fstab mount option nofail may be used to have fsck skip non-existing devices." | 10:25 |
lunario_ | nofail solved it :) thanks! | 10:44 |
aplainzetakind | Now that I'm using dhcpcd, is the package dhcp-client safe to remove? | 11:02 |
GyrosGeier | yes | 11:04 |
GyrosGeier | but I think you mean isc-dhcp-client | 11:04 |
humpelstilzchen[ | I wonder, what is the advantage of dhcpcd? | 11:05 |
aplainzetakind | GyrosGeier: I guess, dhcp-client is the virtual package it seems. | 11:08 |
aplainzetakind | humpelstilzchen[: Well the way I was able to get wpa_supplicant to start at boot without using any network manager sort of thing was via the dhcpcd hook, that's why I'm using it. | 11:09 |
humpelstilzchen[ | aplainzetakind: ok, I'm using /e/n/i with wpa-roam | 11:10 |
GyrosGeier | humpelstilzchen[, it has a control interface so you can poke it from user accounts without sudo | 11:10 |
GyrosGeier | basically, it's a predecessor of network-manager | 11:11 |
aplainzetakind | humpelstilzchen[: I did that (without the roam) but the boot process stopped to wait for dhclient and that seemed a nuisance. | 11:11 |
GyrosGeier | IIRC the boot process stops when you use "auto wlan0", and proceeds if you use "allow-hotplug wlan0" | 11:12 |
gnarface | one of them is easier to use, and one of them is easier to customize | 11:12 |
gnarface | the dhcp clients | 11:12 |
aplainzetakind | GyrosGeier: If you allow-hotplug, when does it go up? I did auto. | 11:13 |
gnarface | "allow-hotplug" behaves differently for some drivers and fails to fire at boot | 11:13 |
gnarface | so ymmv depending on ethernet device | 11:13 |
humpelstilzchen[ | allow-hotplug was made for e.g. usb sticks, so the device gets configured on insertion | 11:14 |
aplainzetakind | OK then, dhcpcd currently does the job with no friction. | 11:14 |
GyrosGeier | for me, allow-hotplug works fine at boot | 11:15 |
GyrosGeier | it just means the interface is configured as a result of the synthetic hotplug event from udevadm trigger | 11:16 |
GyrosGeier | so it happens in the background | 11:16 |
GyrosGeier | it also means the interface is configured earlier | 11:17 |
GyrosGeier | because at this point the init system is still waiting for "udevadm settle" | 11:18 |
parabyte | hi everyone, i got a quick question, does stock devuan do opencl with ati/amd gpu's | 13:56 |
parabyte | i want to experiment with it, i have a really old gpu but apparently it does opencl | 13:57 |
debdog | parabyte: $ clinfo | 14:37 |
debdog | Number of platforms 0 | 14:37 |
debdog | it seems not. but I am not good with this kind of stuff | 14:37 |
debdog | this is with an Radeon R7 260X/360 with the radeon module | 14:38 |
GyrosGeier | CL backends are called ICDs | 14:38 |
GyrosGeier | there is a virtual package called "opencl-icd" that is provided by ICD packages | 14:39 |
GyrosGeier | your best bet is mesa-opencl-icd | 14:39 |
GyrosGeier | there is probably also a non-free AMD ICD | 14:40 |
GyrosGeier | the OpenCL runtime library just provides a registry of ICDs, and allows applications to load them | 14:40 |
GyrosGeier | each ICD then provides one (or more, but typically not) "platforms | 14:41 |
GyrosGeier | " | 14:41 |
debdog | I see | 14:41 |
Eaglet1 | Hello, comrades! | 15:43 |
UsL | hello alice. | 15:46 |
Eaglet | Hello, UsL! | 15:47 |
Eaglet | Who can help me with find remote job sysadmin? | 15:48 |
UsL | how do you mean? | 15:49 |
brocashelm | ^ #devuan-offtopic | 15:50 |
brocashelm | this is a support channel for devuan only | 15:50 |
UsL | keeps popping up different places with different nicknames but almost always redarmy@*.sura.ru | 15:56 |
Guest25 | ello | 17:08 |
Guest25 | can someon help me with devaun install | 17:08 |
debdog | shoot! | 17:09 |
Guest25 | im trying to install jessie but it says "mirror does not support the specified release (jessie)" | 17:10 |
Guest25 | in console | 17:11 |
Guest25 | but without going into console it says Bad Archive Mirror | 17:13 |
Guest25 | and all the mirrors i looked through, none has jessie in the archive dir only ascii | 17:13 |
UsL | no wonder: https://www.devuan.org/os/releases | 17:14 |
brocashelm | please link to a paste of your /etc/apt/sources.list file. mirrors aren't encouraged and better to use something like this: deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged ascii main | 17:14 |
brocashelm | btw, why not install ascii, which is still supported? | 17:14 |
Guest25 | oh my bad ill just use ascii instead | 17:14 |
Guest25 | thanks guys i didnt know jessie wasnt supported lol | 17:14 |
brocashelm | cool, i'm on ceres lol | 17:14 |
Guest25 | oh nice | 17:15 |
brocashelm | yeah, ceres is stable as a rock, especially with runit. i would unironically use it for a small server even. at least ceres will keep rolling with updates (even when testing is fully frozen) | 17:19 |
luser978 | I think I still have a wheezy + linuxcnc machine I have not booted in 3 years. Would be a good guinea pig to go ascii or beowulf and install linuxcnc by hand. axis is py2, like wicd. no effort to port wicd to py3 at all? | 17:23 |
user_ | hello | 17:26 |
user_ | I am using Devuan Beowulf. I have noticed that after I boot dnsmasq is running. | 17:27 |
luser979 | you are not me :) | 17:27 |
luser979 | so? started it while installing other packages? | 17:28 |
user_ | However, I do not know why or how it is started. I did not see any script in /etc/init.d. Running 'grep -r dnsmasq /etc' also does not return anything useful. Does anyone know how it is started and how I can configure it? | 17:29 |
luser979 | connman or wicd likely started it? | 17:29 |
luser979 | or you enabled terminal server services? | 17:31 |
luser979 | ps auxwf|less will tell you who started it in theory | 17:32 |
luser979 | see /etc/dnsmasq.conf | 17:34 |
user_ | I do not have /etc/dnsmasq.conf because only dnsmasq.base is installed. | 17:36 |
luser979 | networkmanager is running? | 17:37 |
luser979 | if so, it runs dnsmasq | 17:37 |
user_ | However, I ran the ps command and the output was something like 'dnsmasq ... --listen-address=10.0.3.1 ...'. this is my bridge for LXC so I think that the LXC service is actually starting it. Thanks for the hint. | 17:38 |
luser979 | /etc/init.d/network-manager stop | 17:40 |
luser979 | ah yes container carriers may start it | 17:41 |
user_ | No network-manager installed. As I said, It is probably the LXC service. The rest of the configuration (as output from 'ps auxwf) is also exactly as it is described in /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/lxc/lxc-net. Currently examining it to see if I can configure its behaviour without editing that script. | 17:45 |
fsmithred | I have network-manager running and no dnsmasq. | 18:02 |
jyri | that's the first thing I uninstall :) It's just not capable of doing things I need to do | 18:05 |
fsmithred | what do you use instead? | 18:05 |
fsmithred | note: only reason I have it installed is to see if it's a suitable replacement for wicd in chimaera and beyond. | 18:06 |
jyri | I have had to return to wpa_supplicant for wifi and running openvpn from cli etc. | 18:07 |
jyri | NM messes always something up, even something as simple as havin two VPNs open at the same time seems to be beyond it's capabilities | 18:08 |
fsmithred | I believe you. I switched to connman on the laptop because nm got confused with two wireless networks in the house. It thought it knew better which one I wanted to connect to. | 18:09 |
fsmithred | connman has its own quirks | 18:10 |
jyri | I second that :D | 18:12 |
fling | How to load nftables ruleset on boot? | 19:22 |
fling | I placed it into /etc/nftables.conf | 19:22 |
fling | How to get ip forwarding working? | 20:11 |
fling | I edited sysctl conf but packets are not coming through | 20:12 |
nemo | fling: you mean like iptable nat? | 20:12 |
nemo | not something I'm super familiar with myself | 20:12 |
nemo | are you following some guide? | 20:12 |
fling | using nftables here | 20:12 |
fling | I accept packets in forward chain of ip filter table | 20:13 |
nemo | oh. I see | 20:13 |
nemo | yeah. sorry I've only ever used iptables - this is too new for me ☺ | 20:13 |
fling | I see counters bumping when running ping | 20:13 |
nemo | does it work similarly? | 20:13 |
fling | but only in forward, masquerade counters are 0 | 20:13 |
fling | nemo: nftables is just another frontend to netfilter | 20:14 |
fling | oh wait | 20:15 |
fling | I'm missing a hook in postrouting chain | 20:15 |
* fling needs another coffee | 20:15 | |
fling | nemo: thanks :> | 20:15 |
jyri | cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward | 20:15 |
fling | jyri: how to get nftables loaded on boot? | 20:16 |
fling | I saved the ruleset to /etc/nftables.conf | 20:16 |
fling | made it executable | 20:16 |
jyri | cp /usr/share/doc/nftables/examples/sysvinit/nftables.init /etc/init.d | 20:16 |
jyri | update-rc.d nftables defaults | 20:16 |
fling | thanks | 20:16 |
jyri | np | 20:17 |
nemo | fling: lol. go rubber ducky 😃 | 20:17 |
jemora | Saludos... alguien puede orientarme con un problema que se me presenta con la distro?... Cambié el gestor de red wicd por network manager pero no logro gestionar las conexiones | 20:52 |
fsmithred | jemora, did you remove wicd and install network-manager-gnome? | 20:55 |
jemora | install network-manager ... I'm use a fork devuan named GNU Etertics | 21:04 |
fsmithred | network-manager-gnome provides the tray icon | 21:05 |
fsmithred | right-click on tray-icon to Enable Wi-Fi | 21:05 |
fsmithred | and also to Edit Connections | 21:06 |
fsmithred | what exact problem or error do you get? | 21:06 |
fsmithred | if you write in Spanish, I will use google translate | 21:07 |
fsmithred | I will return in 30 minutes. | 21:09 |
markizano | jemora: est'as tratando a conectar a la red de wi-fi, o tratas a hacer un hotspot? | 21:10 |
markizano | estás* | 21:10 |
markizano | ustéd esta | 21:11 |
markizano | LOL | 21:11 |
markizano | ayudame .... tan mucho tiempo que escribÃr en español :P | 21:13 |
jyri | bueno, me voy a tomar un birra. Si todavia tienes la problema te puedo intentar a ayudar | 21:16 |
jemora | El fork que utilizo trae preinstalado wicd y network-manager, ppr defecto wicd ... el asunto es que necesito utilizar modems usb (banda ancha movil) y me veo obligado a activar network-manager. Lo activa sin problema y muestra el tray pero noe permite gestionar las conexiones... dice "eln! dispositico está listo" pero no los muestra, con botón derecho del mouse puedo editar y agregar pero igual no aparecen... ni cableadas, ni wireles | 21:22 |
jemora | markizano estoy tratando de activar todas mis comexiomes en una de mis pc | 21:23 |
markizano | jyri: LOL | 21:35 |
markizano | jemora: parece como problema con drivers, talvez?? trabaja con `ifconfig` y `iwconfig` ? | 21:48 |
nemo | fsmithred: oh wait. that works now? | 21:51 |
nemo | fsmithred: will switch SO's laptop to it then. she was really getting annoyed with wicd | 21:51 |
fsmithred | nemo, what works now? | 21:56 |
nemo | network-manager-gnome | 22:02 |
nemo | hmmm wants to modify a ton of stuff | 22:03 |
nemo | REMOVED: consolekit libpolkit-backend-consolekit-1-0 libpolkit-gobject-consolekit-1-0 libsystemd0 NEW: elogind libelogind0 libndp0 libnm0 libnma0 libpam-elogind libpolkit-backend-elogind-1-0 libpolkit-gobject-elogind-1-0 libteamdctl0 mobile-broadband-provider-info network-manager network-manager-gnome ppp | 22:04 |
nemo | sure hope this doesn't break anything | 22:04 |
fsmithred | woah | 22:08 |
fsmithred | is from installing nm or from removing wicd? | 22:08 |
jemora | fsmithred: (jemora) los comandos y secuencia empleada fue: en terminal de usuario $ pkill wicd-gtk ... como root: service wicd stop && service network-manager start y finalmente como usuario normal: $ nm-applet & | 22:34 |
fling | nemo: having the same with dnat now, counters not bumping | 22:35 |
ao9wufh9wq83hfa9 | i installed ASCII and there is a systemd folder in /etc? i thought devaun doesn't have systemd? | 22:42 |
Jjp137 | basically: https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=1925 | 22:44 |
ao9wufh9wq83hfa9 | oh so the files in /systemd are only dependencies for a few programs and not as an init? | 22:46 |
rwp | ao9wufh9wq83hfa9, On my Beowulf system /etc/systemd is an empty directory owned by init-system-helpers package. | 22:48 |
rwp | You can run "dpkg -S /etc/systemd/" to see what packages have files installed there. | 22:48 |
gnarface | ao9wufh9wq83hfa9: it's just a dumping place for slug files and orphaned symlinks from other packages | 22:49 |
gnarface | ao9wufh9wq83hfa9: systemd itself was removed from this OS but there's a lot of cruft remaining | 22:49 |
ao9wufh9wq83hfa9 | thanks for the insight. mine also has files installed by init-system-helpers | 22:49 |
ao9wufh9wq83hfa9 | ah i see, good to know | 22:50 |
gnarface | udevd used to be called "systemd-udevd" :-p | 22:51 |
gnarface | for no reason apparently other than to upset us | 22:51 |
gnarface | so we forked it | 22:51 |
gnarface | but a lot of other stuff is just under the radar | 22:51 |
ao9wufh9wq83hfa9 | interesting... lol | 22:51 |
armin | a friend of mine just looked into /etc/systemd/ and it has a bunch of symlinks to /dev/null - what's the idea here? | 22:55 |
Jjp137 | from what I can tell by searching, it's systemd's way of "masking" a service (or "unit" I guess), which is to prevent any attempts from ever loading it | 22:58 |
Jjp137 | obviously it...doesn't mean anything on Devuan | 22:58 |
gnarface | yea i think you can probably just delete the entire contents of the directory but shit will just keep putting it back | 22:59 |
nemo | fsmithred: that was from installing nm | 23:08 |
nemo | fsmithred: I haven't executed it yet, 'cause it sounded worrying | 23:08 |
nemo | fsmithred: I tried apt install network-manager and it said it needed libpam-systemd | 23:08 |
nemo | adding that to the apt install resulted in that list | 23:08 |
fsmithred | nemo, you need libpam-elogind | 23:31 |
fsmithred | switching back to desktop | 23:43 |
jemora | probaré | 23:48 |
wf3aew4t | can someone please tell me what their /etc/apt/sources.list looks like? i used the default sources for my version and i dont think its giving me all of them when i use apt | 23:57 |
wf3aew4t | *default sources from devuan website | 23:57 |
fsmithred | https://www.devuan.org/os/packages | 23:58 |
fsmithred | deb http://deb/devuan.org beowulf main | 23:58 |
fsmithred | and two more lines: replace beowulf with beowulf-security and beowulf-updates | 23:58 |
fsmithred | what are you not finding? | 23:59 |
wf3aew4t | im using the exact ones for ascii and i cant find openssh-server only client | 23:59 |
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