libera/#devuan/ Friday, 2021-08-20

xrogaanfor those using Chimaera, don't forget to enable the chimaera-updates channe.08:31
xrogaanupdate channel*08:31
loadingxmlCan't wait for devuan 4.015:00
djphloadingxml: Chimaera is pretty awesome already15:05
loadingxmldjph: I want waiting for the stable one  :(15:05
loadingxmlI am*15:05
djphTBH, it's been running quite stable for a few weeks here15:07
djphgranted it is still in 'testing'15:07
loadingxmlCan I upgrade from beta to stable after it came out15:09
loadingxmllike without having to install it again?15:09
loadingxmlbecause I know debian doesn't allow you to go stable after going testing15:09
djphwell they don't allow (current_stable) -> (current_testing) -> (current_stable)15:11
djphbut you can certainly go stable -> testing -> new_stable(formerly testing)15:11
loadingxmldjph: That's why I am waiting for stable then :(15:20
djphhuh15:21
loadingxmlany info about when it will be ready?15:22
djphtesting (Chimaera) will eventually become "Stable(Chimaera)"15:22
loadingxmlI thought as soon as debian 11 is released devuan 4.0 will follow15:22
UsLI think he must have misunderstood.16:33
UsLstable testing new stable is what he would want.16:34
nemohm. something mildly disturbing after upgrading my dev VM at work to chimaera20:27
nemostarted getting Stale file handle on attempt to read any file on a cifs windows share mount20:27
nemoon a mount that worked with beowulf20:28
nemothe really weird part, for me, was that vers=2.0 vers=2.1 vers=3.0  all failed... but vers=1.0  (!!) worked.20:28
rwpnemo, That version difference does not sound weird to me at all.  Between versions all sorts of protocol changes happened.21:09
rwpnemo, I think what you just told me was that your server supports 1.0 but not the later versions which you have now upgraded to is why using the 1.0 version works.21:12
nemorwp: naw. it works on 2.0 in beowulf21:14
nemolet me test other versions21:14
nemorwp: looks like the Dell EMC2 wtf smb implementation is failing with cifs module in 5.4 kernel (ubuntu 20.04) and 5.10 kernel (devuan chimaera)21:14
rwpI have no idea.  You are blazing the trail through the rough area now.21:15
nemofinding a beowulf lying around to confirm21:15
nemohm. I bet the matomo server is still beowulf21:15
nemoyep. yay.21:15
nemorwp: confirmed 2.0 2.1 3.0 all work in beowulf21:20
rwpWell...  Keep blazing the trail!  It's something that is different.  One of the libraries that it is using then.21:22
nemorwp: yeah. sucks. just don't know where to go from here21:28
nemowould like to reach out to a cifs person to have them suggest some debug spew21:28
nemoI tried "cifsFYI" but it didn't seem to do anything useful21:29
nemoand reallllly don't want to have to use tcpdump ☹21:29
nemoanyway. not devuan specific. so will move on to general kernel-y channels21:29
xrogaanhey there. Any recommendation for a file content searcher?23:41
xrogaanThat is, beside 'find' and locate.23:41
xrogaanIdea is to search inside various files, like odt/docx or even archives.23:41

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