| dissident | So I've been trying devuan on and off. Multiple questions, so I thought I'd make a forums account. It asked me what the default desktop evironment is. Ha, I don't use a desktop environment. Naturally I guessed and predictably, it was wrong. Googling recommended a channel ... on freenode :p | 18:19 |
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| dissident | Annnnnyway, for someone running devuan on a laptop, what's the recommended working program to have an icon in the tooltray for controlling connections to wifi & ethernet? | 18:21 |
| buZz | wicd | 18:21 |
| debdog | agreed, that default desktop question bugged me as well | 18:22 |
| dissident | I used that ages ago. it was my preffered choice, but there was just one little teesny problem... can you guess what package is not in the repos? | 18:22 |
| fsmithred | xfce | 18:29 |
| fsmithred | xfce4 if that fails | 18:29 |
| fsmithred | wicd is not in chimaera. You can use network-manager or connman. | 18:31 |
| fsmithred | if you are a python programmer, we should talk about porting wicd to python3. Later. I'm going for a swim. | 18:31 |
| dissident | they must have plugged that hole: xfce and xfce4 resulted in the bot message again | 18:32 |
| dissident | i'm getting this "in line at the DMV feeling" :o | 18:32 |
| hagbard | There seems to be a python3 version of wicd in debian experimental. Never gave it a try myself, though. | 18:32 |
| dissident | rebooting: giving conman a try. ty for your answers. | 18:33 |
| dissident | conman is a program for for connecting to remote consoles being managed by conmand. | 18:40 |
| dissident | nice try | 18:40 |
| debdog | dissident: conman vs connman | 18:48 |
| debdog | well, as soon as he comes back. I am afk | 18:48 |
| fsmithred | hagbard, I tried it, and it doesn't run. | 18:57 |
| brocashelm | which one will be the default for devuan from here on out? | 19:11 |
| brocashelm | i seem to recall it's shipped with wicd this whole time, right? | 19:12 |
| rwp | brocashelm, Network Manager is the base default at this time. Due to the loss of WICD, due to lack of a full Python 3 port of it. | 19:12 |
| brocashelm | ah | 19:15 |
| debdog | if I upgrade from Beowulf to Chimsomething, will wicd be removed? | 19:16 |
| fsmithred | default network gui depends on desktop. I think cinnamon or lxqt uses connman and kde uses its own thing | 19:17 |
| fsmithred | debdog, it should get removed. It's not in chimaera repos. | 19:17 |
| debdog | should™ | 19:18 |
| debdog | maybe I'll try in a VM first | 19:19 |
| debdog | oder kernels do not get removed un upgrades. or are they special cases of packages? | 19:20 |
| debdog | *older | 19:20 |
| fsmithred | kernel is special case. There's some apt config file that has some stuff about that. | 19:22 |
| debdog | ok | 19:22 |
| rwp | The wicd problem is a depends upon python 2. If python 2 does not get forcibly removed (I don't know, I don't think so) then wicd should not get removed. I think. | 19:29 |
| rwp | I haven't done an upgrade on a laptop that uses wicd. Just server systems using ifupdown. | 19:30 |
| debdog | ok, I'll do a testrun. will report back (prolly not today) | 19:33 |
| rwp | Note: Along with python 2 wicd-gtk uses that version of GTK too. So that depends would also keep the previous GTK installed. It's a big cone of dependencies stuck. | 19:52 |
| rwp | That can probably be reduced by shedding the GTK and using the wicd-curses interface. I use wicd-curses and it is fine. So I might consider that too. | 19:52 |
| debdog | ok | 19:54 |
| vvande | A question about repositories. I want to install Tor. | 22:29 |
| vvande | deb https://deb.torproject.org/torproject.org <DISTRIBUTION> main | 22:29 |
| vvande | What shall I put if <DISTRIBUTION> ? | 22:30 |
| vvande | (I guess I should ask this in the Tor channel on OFTC) | 22:35 |
| mason | vvande: Look at https://deb.torproject.org/torproject.org/dists/ and you'll see what options they offer. | 22:36 |
| mason | Guessing you'd want Buster. Not sure how well that works. Standalone TBB works on Beowulf. | 22:36 |
| vvande | thanks | 22:39 |
| vvande | I'll look at those options. | 22:39 |
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