| ham5urg | fsmithred, thanks I got ungoogled-chromium in chimaera. | 00:17 |
|---|---|---|
| fsmithred | yeah, it seems to work ok. | 00:18 |
| Xenguy | Is that packaged? | 00:19 |
| fsmithred | yes, but not in repo | 00:19 |
| Xenguy | Is it truly possible to 'ungoogle' something? | 00:19 |
| Xenguy | aha | 00:19 |
| Xenguy | 3rd party | 00:19 |
| Xenguy | Seems like if it's the real deal, it would be a good thing to have packaged in Devuan | 00:20 |
| Xenguy | But I know, who's gonna do the heavy lifting? | 00:20 |
| fsmithred | wget https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/ungoogled_chromium/Debian_Sid/amd64/ungoogled-chromium_90.0.4430.212-1.sid1_amd64.deb | 00:22 |
| fsmithred | wget https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/ungoogled_chromium/Debian_Sid/amd64/ungoogled-chromium-common_90.0.4430.212-1.sid1_amd64.deb | 00:22 |
| fsmithred | works in chimaera | 00:22 |
| Xenguy | I'll upgrade to Chimaera once it's officially released, that will be my reward | 00:28 |
| Xenguy | Thanks for the pointers | 00:28 |
| golinux | fsmithred: No 32bit ungoogled? | 01:03 |
| fsmithred | I think there is | 01:04 |
| fsmithred | chop off some of the url and look around | 01:04 |
| golinux | I have known about it for years but never got around to investigating. | 01:04 |
| fsmithred | same here | 01:05 |
| golinux | Yeah. I'll find it . . . if I can remember. LOL! | 01:05 |
| n4dir | i think it was that MXLinux guy who first posted about the opensuse thing. Never looked though. | 01:05 |
| n4dir | i forgot his name, hence "that guy". That was not meant disrespectful | 01:06 |
| golinux | Steve PUsser | 01:06 |
| brocashelm | stevenpusser? | 01:06 |
| n4dir | yes. what a relief | 01:06 |
| golinux | That is his repo | 01:06 |
| brocashelm | he also packages pale moon for debian | 01:06 |
| golinux | which I use | 01:06 |
| brocashelm | same | 01:06 |
| fsmithred | https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/ungoogled_chromium/Debian_Sid/ | 01:06 |
| n4dir | at MX or Mepis they had their community repos, which sometimes helped for unpacked stuff | 01:06 |
| golinux | Mepis is no more for some time | 01:07 |
| golinux | Morphed to MX | 01:07 |
| brocashelm | would be great if devuan had some exclusive packages like ungoogled chromium but i know that's not the point of the distro so it 95% likely won't happen | 01:07 |
| golinux | AWe are ot here now | 01:07 |
| n4dir | what is AWe? | 01:08 |
| golinux | Projects can be shared via ourgit | 01:08 |
| brocashelm | i recall something about allowing the liboobs thing in devuan's repos, but no one ever stepped up | 01:08 |
| golinux | A typo | 01:08 |
| n4dir | ha. i thought it was some internal stuff | 01:08 |
| golinux | There will be no official "ppas" for devuan | 01:09 |
| golinux | Need to go trim bushes | 01:09 |
| jiefk | Hi all ! Where can I find lsusb package on the *testing* release ? Thanks ! | 08:52 |
| jiefk | Nevermind ... It's there now... I swear it was not on my system a week ago | 08:56 |
| brocashelm | i see runit just got updated on ceres (2.1.2-42) | 13:06 |
| APic | Yo. With my current ceres, sane-find-scanner cannot find my USB Scanner even though lsusb shows it: Bus 001 Device 006: ID 04a9:220d Canon, Inc. CanoScan N670U/N676U/LiDE 20 | 21:06 |
| APic | Strangely, /proc/bus/usb does not even exist | 21:06 |
| APic | Am i missing some Kernel Module? | 21:07 |
| APic | Hm | 21:11 |
| APic | Rebooted, and now it is found | 21:11 |
| APic | Strange | 21:12 |
| brocashelm | IIRC, saned is a daemon that needs to be restarted after upgrading (needrestart will let you know which processes need to be restarted) | 21:16 |
| fsmithred | APic, I'll plug mine into the chimaera laptop and see what happens | 21:18 |
| fsmithred | oh. nm | 21:18 |
| ham5urg | Is there a decent chromebook which could be run with devuan out there? A 2in1 laptop which can stand longer than a amd64-one would be great. | 23:18 |
| fsmithred | ham5urg, I tried to mess with my sister's chromebook to see if I could install devuan, but I could not get into whatever the setup is called because it was past its expiration date. | 23:34 |
| fsmithred | I kid you not. | 23:34 |
| fsmithred | those things have a scheduled death. | 23:35 |
| ham5urg | expiration date? | 23:35 |
| ham5urg | Serious? | 23:35 |
| fsmithred | I think they have a better name for it | 23:35 |
| fsmithred | I am serious. Google it. | 23:35 |
| fsmithred | maybe they aren't all like that. | 23:35 |
| Tenkawa | that is nothing but a end of life/support by google date | 23:37 |
| ham5urg | I've heard about the coming Intel CPUs, that these will have mixed type of cores. Atom and Core. Maybe that is a right step. | 23:38 |
| Tenkawa | they don't stop the machine physically from running | 23:38 |
| brocashelm | planned obsolescence and perceived obsolescence | 23:42 |
| brocashelm | devuan runs blazing fast, even on older core2/i3/i5/i7 cpus | 23:43 |
| brocashelm | i can only imagine how much snappier it'll run once i deploy my amd ryzen 5 3600 rig | 23:43 |
| ham5urg | Does anyone had success in convincing a customer to use Devuan instead of mainstream-systemd-linux-distros? I succeeded rarely. But if, the customer never went back from Devuan. | 23:47 |
| brocashelm | users would have to want to use debian at minimum if devuan is considered, but criticisms of systemd/red hat/gnome/pulseaudio/networkmanager/polkit/d-bus/wayland isn't something that they care about and will just go with the distro that's the most "user-friendly" or "like windows 7/10" | 23:58 |
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