libera/#devuan/ Monday, 2021-10-11

Hydragyrumis there anything about switching inits on devuan? I'm considering switching from sysv to openrc02:30
Afdal:o02:32
AfdalWe just had this conversation...02:33
golinuxHydragyrum: Look on the dev1galaxy.org forum.02:34
HydragyrumI did some quick googling and didn't see anything, will take another look though02:35
AfdalMy takeaway from my conversation about switching from sysvinit to runit was02:36
Hydragyrum*looks up* oh yeah and I even was involved in the convo some lol02:36
Afdalyou should try just installing the other init, rebooting02:36
Hydragyrumit was just before my last restart of my irc client02:36
Afdaland then seeing if you're on the new init02:36
Afdalif you are then you're good to go02:37
AfdalApparently init selection tends to select the most recent install02:37
Afdalso I've heard, anyway02:38
AfdalI'll be making some adjustments to gather my services together in the runit way02:39
Afdalinstead of relying on its compatibility with sysvinit's way02:40
Afdalbut I actually think openrc does things more similarly to sysvinit02:40
Afdalrip02:42
Hydragyrumwell now openrc gang02:44
AfdalIt worked?02:44
Afdaldamn, that simple huh02:44
AfdalMaybe I'll try switching to runit soon then02:44
Hydragyrumhowever, my external drive got labeled as sda this time which messed me up a bit (interactively, I wouldn't automount by device name)02:45
Hydragyrumbut I don't know why a usb external drive would be first in the order, esp. since I'm pretty sure I'm using the same udev02:50
Afdalthat's annoying02:53
Afdalthat's why I usually use UUIDs though02:53
Hydragyrumyeah it's something I handmount on every boot02:59
Hydragyrumwhich usually means either like 3 times a day or once every few weeks02:59
AfdalWhat desktop environment do you use?03:11
Hydragyrumi3wm03:12
Hydragyrumde-less03:12
Hydragyrumnext is switching to openrc-init (because openrc just replaces sysv-rc)03:15
Hydragyrumso I need to manually swap that bit03:15
Afdalopenrc is so complicated and confusing to me03:16
Afdalthat's why I prefer runit03:16
Afdalsimple and comfy...03:16
Hydragyrumhaven't used runit myself, openrc is what I use on many of my other systemd-less systems (artix, gentoo, etc.)03:16
adhocHydragyrum: why the switch away from sysv-rc ?03:17
AfdalApparently you can even use openrc with runit03:17
Afdalsince openrc isn't the init...  @_@03:17
Hydragyrumadhoc, to get all my systems on the same system mostly03:18
Hydragyrumalso because I'm bored lol03:18
adhocok, so long as devuan isn't moving away and dropping it03:18
adhocbeing bored, or because you can change can be fun03:18
adhocso long as you have options to go back, if it doesn't work out =)03:19
Hydragyrumnow where's my agetty rc script...03:19
Hydragyrumapparently nothing installs such a script, but openrc-init doesn't use inittab apparently and so I need agetty initscript to start my login gettys03:20
Hydragyrumwell just stole the script from my gentoo box, boutta reboot again03:28
Hydragyrumand it worked03:33
ukinecool stuff Hydragyrum03:34
adhocHydragyrum: so that is not in a package?03:34
Hydragyrumapparently not03:34
Hydragyrumapt-file doesn't find it, and it's not provided by util-linux which provides agetty, or by openrc03:35
adhocsounds like its worth logging a bug ?03:35
adhocgiven you have a clear understanding of what should be happened, and what should be provided03:36
Hydragyrumlol true enough03:37
Hydragyrumbetter yet, I could submit a patch to devuan's openrc package with it03:37
Hydragyrum(seeing as the script is written for openrc, and wouldn't function properly with sysvinit most likely even with changing the #!/sbin/openrc-run)03:39
CAPTCHA_REQUIREDhello06:22
CAPTCHA_REQUIREDi'm trying to install beowulf via debootsrap06:23
CAPTCHA_REQUIREDcan someone please link me to the gpg keyring?06:23
CAPTCHA_REQUIREDthe gpg keyring for verifying release files06:23
CAPTCHA_REQUIREDE: Release signed by unknown key (key id BB23C00C61FC752C)06:24
CAPTCHA_REQUIREDI didn't see any BB23C00 on https://www.devuan.org/os/team06:24
CAPTCHA_REQUIREDoh nvm06:28
CAPTCHA_REQUIREDi found the keyring06:28
CAPTCHA_REQUIREDbut some more official instructions for setting up devuan manually via debootsrap would be appreciated06:28
rwpCAPTCHA_REQUIRED, There isn't any *GOOD* documentation on setting up the system with debootstrap.06:44
rwpBut there is https://wiki.debian.org/Debootstrap06:44
rwpWhich I don't like because I don't agree with the instructions.06:45
rwpCAPTCHA_REQUIRED, Ah!  This is much better documentation. https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/apds03.en.html#idm433406:47
CAPTCHA_REQUIREDoh thankyou06:47
CAPTCHA_REQUIREDand it's been a while since i installed a devuan system from scratch, what's the package you need to install to make simpleterm work correctly with it?06:47
CAPTCHA_REQUIREDinstalls control-code defitions and whatnot06:48
ltsCAPTCHA_REQUIRED: stterm?06:49
CAPTCHA_REQUIREDoh06:49
CAPTCHA_REQUIREDncurses-term06:49
CAPTCHA_REQUIREDlts thankyou for the link06:49
CAPTCHA_REQUIREDit reminds me of the freebsd handbook06:49
rwpIt does have some of the same look and feel as the freebsd handbook.06:52
CAPTCHA_REQUIREDsigh, still no modern zfs06:55
rwpYou can always install zfs and use it through module-assistant.  Or you can combine it yourself.07:04
rwpThe license is incompatible with the GPL of the Linux kernel.  That's why the distro hasn't combined them.07:04
rwpYet Canonical decided that if they did then regardless of it not being a legal combination that no one would have standing to bring suite.  So they did it anyway.07:05
rwpIn the US system only parties with standing in the case can bring suite.  Since no one will have standing there is no one to bring suite.07:05
rwpHowever I am not sure that is the best way to go.  Since it weakens Copyright.  And Free Software depends upon a strong Copyright.07:05
rwpAnyway...  You can install zfs and keep it automatically compiled as new kernels arrive with module-assistant.07:06
rwpThat's what everyone tells me.  I still have learning ZFS on my task list.  Will get to it sometime.07:06
CAPTCHA_REQUIREDwhat is a module-assistant07:06
rwphttps://wiki.debian.org/ModuleAssistant07:15
CAPTCHA_REQUIREDhuh07:16
CAPTCHA_REQUIREDmadwifi is still a thing?07:16
CAPTCHA_REQUIRED(from the screenshots)07:17
rwpHere is the basic wiki page on ZFS. https://wiki.debian.org/ZFS07:17
rwpAnd as I said I haven't learned ZFS yet.  I just react to what people I trust tell me about it.07:18
CAPTCHA_REQUIREDwhat do thee decree?07:19
rwpI guess I am a little outdated.  It looks like m-a is now DKMS the Dynamic Kernel Module Support Framework.07:20
rwpI don't decree anything.  I have not learned ZFS myself.  I just reference other documentation as I can that I think will help.07:21
CAPTCHA_REQUIREDwhy doesn't devuan use debian's backport level?07:21
CAPTCHA_REQUIREDhttps://packages.debian.org/buster-backports/zfs-dkms07:21
rwp"backport level"??07:21
CAPTCHA_REQUIREDI should be installing 2.x07:22
CAPTCHA_REQUIREDyet, i'm installing zfs 0.7.x from backports07:22
CAPTCHA_REQUIREDbeowulf-backport07:22
rwpI have no idea.  But Devuan is Debian except for a relatively small list of packages that are blocked due to systemd entanglements.07:22
CAPTCHA_REQUIREDbut backports should be backports, right?07:23
rwpHere are the Devuan banned packages list: https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/bannedpackages.txt07:23
rwpSince I don't see zfs in that list then it should be good to go for Devuan.07:24
rwpI think backports might be devuan specific in this case.  I do not know.07:24
CAPTCHA_REQUIREDshows up here too https://pkginfo.devuan.org/cgi-bin/policy-query.html?c=package&q=zfs-dkms&x=submit07:24
CAPTCHA_REQUIREDhttps://pkginfo.devuan.org/cgi-bin/package-query.html?c=package&q=zfs-dkms=2.0.3-9~bpo10+107:25
rwpzfs-dkms in chimaera is version 2.0.3-9 and chimaera is very close to actual release right now.  Very close.07:25
rwpThat shows that zfs-dkms in beowulf-backports is 2.0.3-9.07:26
rwpSo you shouldn't be getting 0.7 from backports but 2.0.3-9, right?07:26
CAPTCHA_REQUIREDcorrect07:32
CAPTCHA_REQUIREDbut i am07:32
CAPTCHA_REQUIREDi followed the instructions here07:34
CAPTCHA_REQUIREDhttps://openzfs.github.io/openzfs-docs/Getting%20Started/Debian/index.html#installation07:34
CAPTCHA_REQUIREDand changed buster to beowulf07:34
CAPTCHA_REQUIREDif do it with apt -t beowulf-backports it installs the correct one, but that uninstalls openrc07:36
CAPTCHA_REQUIREDnvm07:38
CAPTCHA_REQUIREDi got it working, it's just concerning package pinning isn't working as expected07:39
CAPTCHA_REQUIREDalso this: https://dpaste.com/BYYG2Q2ZQ.txt07:39
CAPTCHA_REQUIREDfor some reason07:39
rwpHmm...  Some package conflict there, huh.  Well...  I don't know the deep issue there.  Something to debug and figure out.07:42
CAPTCHA_REQUIREDi didn't see any direct conflict07:42
CAPTCHA_REQUIREDbut ok07:42
CAPTCHA_REQUIREDbizzare07:42
rwpNot so much bizarre as unfortunate.  This whole init unpleasantness has been...  Unpleasant! :-(07:43
CAPTCHA_REQUIREDso just kind of casual question here07:46
CAPTCHA_REQUIREDis there an official way to contibute alternative initscripts, say as for openrc native scripts07:47
CAPTCHA_REQUIREDor is devuan just unning sysv scripts into openrc via compatibility mode07:47
CAPTCHA_REQUIREDalso rwp, thankyou a lot for the help tonight07:58
SuccessusHello, I was reading the wiki, but couldn't find direct information, could you please tell me if Devuan's kernel is completely free? (no non-free blobs, firmware, drivers). All I read is that you can chose during installation if you want to install non-free drivers08:54
CAPTCHA_REQUIREDSuccessus, don't enable the non-free repository and it will remain free08:54
CAPTCHA_REQUIREDdon't install anything from the non-free repository08:54
CAPTCHA_REQUIREDeg, drivers08:54
CAPTCHA_REQUIREDfirmware08:54
SuccessusSo that means the kernel doesn't have anything non-free integrated?08:55
CAPTCHA_REQUIREDi don't think so08:55
SuccessusJust like Debian says for its kernel08:55
SuccessusThe process of "cleaning" the kernel is the same?08:55
CAPTCHA_REQUIREDdevuan wouldn't put anything nonfree in there when the debian version doesn't08:55
SuccessusI see08:55
Successusand that goes for kernel too08:55
SuccessusAlright then, thank you08:56
SuccessusI want to ask one more thing, would I be able to use encrypted /home partition, that was encrypted during Debian installation, using Debian's installer?08:56
SuccessusI think one time I was testing, installing Debian, and even Debian's installer formatted the partition, even though I didn't select that08:57
CAPTCHA_REQUIREDi use full disk encryption with devuan on my laptop08:57
CAPTCHA_REQUIREDthough i installed back in jessie08:57
CAPTCHA_REQUIREDand just kept upgrading that system08:57
CAPTCHA_REQUIREDthere was a option i the installer (i forgot which one probably netinst) to do it08:58
CAPTCHA_REQUIREDautomaticlly08:58
Successusyou switched from Debian to Devuan on that laptop, or just installed Devuan?08:58
CAPTCHA_REQUIREDno i installed devuan08:58
Successusok08:58
CAPTCHA_REQUIREDjust devuan08:58
CAPTCHA_REQUIREDand upgraded to later devuan releases08:58
Successusok08:59
Successusyou used netinst to install it?09:00
CAPTCHA_REQUIREDyes09:00
Successusdo you perhaps know how much space Devuan occupies after installation?09:00
CAPTCHA_REQUIREDat least as far as i remember09:00
CAPTCHA_REQUIREDthat was years ago09:00
SuccessusI'm interested in minimal installation sizes but can't find information on that, except for trying it out09:00
CAPTCHA_REQUIREDSuccessus, it depends on what features you select09:00
Successusright09:00
CAPTCHA_REQUIREDif your trying to build a minimal system09:00
Successuscould I test that in a VM, will it occupy the same space as it would on hardware?09:00
CAPTCHA_REQUIREDadd this to your apt.conf09:01
CAPTCHA_REQUIREDAPT::Install-Recommends "false";09:01
CAPTCHA_REQUIREDAPT::Install-Suggests "false";09:01
SuccessusI see09:01
Successusthank you09:01
CAPTCHA_REQUIREDand just watch carefully for reccomends you actually want09:01
CAPTCHA_REQUIREDit will cut the bloat down significantly09:01
CAPTCHA_REQUIREDjust make sure you know whatyour doing09:01
Successusalright09:01
ham5urgDoes anyone know a small board with open firmware, some arm board maybe.14:22
humpelstilzchen[ham5urg: beaglebone might help?14:23
ham5urghumpelstilzchen[ , never heard of, thanks, I will take a look.14:24
humpelstilzchen[ham5urg:  oh wow, you really never heard of beagleboard/beaglebone? That makes me wonder a bit.14:30
humpelstilzchen[Anyway pine64 might also have an interesting board for you14:31
onefanghttps://www.olimex.com/ may or may not help.  #devuan-arm might be more helpful.  There are probably other channels where such things are actually on topic.14:39
luser979#olimex14:49
luser979Also #alpine-linux on oftc14:49
humpelstilzchen[#beagle to join the club of channels to join14:51
tr-amarsh04base-files upgrade broke building a custom kernel15:34
asbesto<316:24
mdti try to run pipewire but it doesnt show any soundcard(s). i understand that pw uses alsa. alsa alone shows the soundcard, pw doesnt. any idea?16:28
gnarfacejust do some tests with aplay, arecord, and speaker-test16:32
gnarfacei don't know what's wrong with pipewire, but once you have enough proof alsa is working right that should be enough to get some help from them directly16:34
mdtalsa allone works fine. only pw doesnt show any soundcard16:35
gnarfacewell someone here might know but you should ask in pipewire's channel too16:36
mdti read the wiki, but didnt find much. i thought it's maybe missing systemd 😉16:38
gnarfacewell i've never used it so i don't know but perhaps that means it could be a permissions issue16:42
mdtgnarface: may well be but alsamixer shows the devices just fine. pw doesnt log any hard errors.16:47
user282069i wonder; is /usr/sbin/bluetoothd compiled with --enable-expermental ?17:23
user282069this in the bluez package17:23
user282069chromium doesnt see the adapter  https://googlechrome.github.io/samples/web-bluetooth/discover-services-and-characteristics.html17:30
user282069d needed root with bluetoothctl to power on and pair successfully17:32
user282069problem is: chromium not seeing the adapter. thank you if you have any thoughts.17:35
buZzmdt: i'm quite sure i've seen ppl using pipewire without systemd17:41
rktarwp: The crash we talked about a day or two ago was due to restarting elogind as needrestart suggested.18:25
rwprkta, Ah...  Yes.  That would probably do it too.  Since elogind somewhat sorta sits in the same relationship to processes as the X server does for X processes.18:45
rwprkta, Thanks for sending me that information.  I appreciate it! :-)18:45
rktaMaybe we should teach needrestart not to auto mark elogind for a restart.18:48
rktaNot sure where to report this. AFAIK elogind is not in debian and needrestart is the original debian version in devuan.18:49
gnarfacebugs.devuan.org18:50
gnarfaceyes, elogind is made here so it is a valid devuan issue18:50
CAPTCHA_REQUIREDwhat is elogind for18:51
CAPTCHA_REQUIREDis it even needed?18:51
gnarfacewhether they'll decide to change elogind or needrestart i couldn't say18:51
gnarfaceyou only need it if you're using graphical logins, it's a drop-in replacement for systemd-logind18:51
gnarfaceit would be safe to uninstall probably unless you don't know how to get X11 running without a GUI login already in place18:51
CAPTCHA_REQUIREDbut i could do that fine with policykit18:52
CAPTCHA_REQUIREDi mean consolekit18:52
rktaI don't even do graphical logins - not sure why it is installed. Trying to uninstall gave dependency problems.18:52
gnarfacepolicykit or consolekit would be tied to the graphical login but that's not the only component of it18:52
CAPTCHA_REQUIREDwhy the sudden requirement of elogind to do the same thing i've been doing for years?18:52
gnarfaceupstream software that changed to attempt to force you to use systemd18:53
gnarfacesomeone clever created elogind to save you from sophie's choice18:53
gnarfacei'd toss it all overboard myself but ymmv18:53
CAPTCHA_REQUIREDty18:54
rwpRight.  My desktop and laptop running i3 started from a vt text console login with xinit (startx calls xinit) does not have elogind installed as I don't need it.18:55
CAPTCHA_REQUIREDrwp what i mean is i had graphical logins way back in linux mint before systemd or elogind were a thing18:55
rwpBut XFCE which is a standard Stable Desktop Environment (and the other DEs) all want (e)logind to be installed and to us it to create "user sessions".18:55
CAPTCHA_REQUIREDor older unixes with xdm18:56
rwpYou don't need to preach to us the choir here.  We will sing the hymns along with you already. :-)18:56
CAPTCHA_REQUIREDoh i know that18:56
gnarfaceyea it's to do with these redhat and freedesktop.org people making everything more complicated so they can get feature-parity with windows for their malware vendors18:56
CAPTCHA_REQUIREDI'm just still not sure exactly what a 'user session' is18:57
rwpHonestly I have been trying to understand what a user session is for some years too.  So far it has escaped my grasp.18:57
rktaDoes this solution to uninstall elogin looks safe to do? https://vs2.rkta.de/files/elogind.aptitude18:57
* CAPTCHA_REQUIRED sigh18:57
CAPTCHA_REQUIREDok so it's not just me18:57
rwpBut (e)logind does a few other things that used to be handled by policy kit, console kit, libpam and other things previously.  It's not all just "user sessions".18:58
user____rwp: a user session is the set of data required to maintain the logged-on state of a user usually in a graphical session sense.18:58
rwprkta, I don't use aptitude so am unfamiliar with the format but that all looks okay to me.18:59
user____rwp: that being said, the enemy camp came and broke all conventions, which implied some admin would set up the session parameters and permissions, such that any x user can access "his" session and automagical things fix what the admin would have previously.18:59
CAPTCHA_REQUIREDi'm still confused18:59
user____And all that automagical thing is bad magic, more smoke than mirrors, and breaks conventions ad nauseam. polkit, elogind etc.19:00
rwprkta, In relation to this topic it is pulling in libcgmanager0 which is a previous implementer of control groups that elogind is implementing.19:00
rwprkta, I am totally confused about why it would want ethtool and hdparm but those are excellent tools that I always install anyway.19:01
rwprkta, The pm-utils is also replacing functionality from elogind for suspend and shutdown.  Which are likely what you want anyway.19:01
rwp(pm-utils, Pavel Machek utils, Power Management utils)19:02
* rwp wishing for Nigel's Tux On Ice suspend code instead but that's another sad tale...19:02
CAPTCHA_REQUIREDhey, just want to make sure everyone is aware of this. Eventually redhat with stop ""supporting"" all these smoke and mirrors to getting an Xsession running after replacing all the simple stuff with complex things only they can maintain and then we will be screwed19:02
rwpuser____, I'll acknowledge that the other camp wants control group functionality.  (FB uses it extensively.)  But I haven't been absorbed into the body yet and don't feel it myself.19:04
rwpuser____, The thing that always seems too fuzzy is "a user session is the set of data required to maintain the logged-on state of a user".  Okay.  Like what?19:05
_ds_tr-amarsh04, base-files 11,1+devuan3? “make bindeb-pkg” works fine here (tested using 5.13.19).19:05
user____rwp: everything from who, credentials, logged on status (elevated privileges or not), host, type of access (local, remote, graphical), etc etc.19:08
user____rwp: paused session, logged out temporarily (locked session) etc etc19:09
user____All the nitty gritty.19:09
rwpuser____, And to think that I don't have any of those and have been blissfully ignorant of my lack of them all of these years! :-/19:09
rwpWith those things one must mention D-Bus too since the implementation of those is deeply tied to dbus too.  Which created yet another set of problems.19:10
tr-amarsh04_ds_ base-files 11.1+devuan2 works fine for me, base-files 12+devuan1 breaks things19:11
user____Indeed. Remember when windows nt was boasting it runs without an admin? User session automation is exactly that missing admin brought to your formerly free *nix.19:11
user____This is going off topic a bit, move it to -offtopic?19:11
rwprkta, Please send another update on how things went for you when you arrive at your next status point.  I have popcorn and am following along closely. :-)19:11
rktarwp: It's not safe to do :)19:12
rktaAtleast not doing it while under X. This will lead to a crash and you need to do that magic key stuff to reboot.19:13
rktaAnd then you can startx but you can't move the mouse cursor and pressing keys does nothing. Again Magic keys to reboot...19:14
rwpYou should not need the Magic SysRq to reboot.  That you needed it is still an unexplained odd thing.19:14
rktaHow would you reboot?19:14
rwpControl-Alt-Delete is often a useful quick way to reboot when sitting at the Linux text console vts.19:14
rwpImplemented by /etc/inittab with "ca:12345:ctrlaltdel:/sbin/shutdown -t1 -a -r now"19:15
rwpIf I have started X I will usually just reboot from an XTerm command line the normal way.  But can also Control-Alt-F1 to vt1 and then Control-Alt-Delete to trigger the shutdown.19:16
rwpThat one is a reboot not a halt.  But that's usually what I want.  And if I want to halt I can then turn off the power when I get to the BIOS POST display.19:16
rktaThis doesn't help if I can't type.19:19
rwpI also set "setxkbmap -option terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp" (along with a compose key) and so can also Control-Alt-Backspace to kill X and everything all at once.19:19
* rkta needs to take the dog for a walk19:19
rwprkta, That the system is not taking keyboard or mouse input is one of those unexplained odd things about your system.  You will need to debug it.  Others don't see that problem.19:19
rwpRe: dogs.  When they gotta go then you gotta go! :-)19:19
rktarwp: I'll try to fix it tomorrow by reinstalling elogind. I don't know how I would debug such a thing. We'll see...19:44
gnarfaceCAPTCHA_REQUIRED: yea we all know that.  you're late to the party.20:44
gnarfaceranting about it goes to #devuan-offtopic20:44
gnarfacehere we just try to mitigate damage20:44
gnarfacei can tell these revelations are new to you and just as disturbing as they should be, but it is old news now20:45
gnarface(also, to be very clear, i think the "we're screwed" scenario occurs long before that)20:48
gnarface(they don't have to actually stop supporting any of it to make it all too expensive for anyone else to integrate into their distro securely, which it very nearly already is)20:49
luser978Then a devuan port of Slackware will emerge from the ruins, and save linux20:51
rwpCan someone else running Ceres Unstable run "wget -q -O/dev/null https://www.example.com/" and tell me if it emits a spurious "SSL_INIT" string as of today's update?20:57
brocashelmrwp: can confirm20:59
brocashelmi updated my wget before running this command20:59
brocashelmthat's strange. wonder what's causing this20:59
rwpI am going to downgrade wget and see if that isolates the problem.21:01
brocashelmthe string doesn't show if i use http://google.com21:01
brocashelmbut for https yes21:01
rwpYep!  Downgrading avoids it.  The problem is in 1.21.2-1 only.21:02
brocashelmi can confirm with 1.21-1+b1 it works again (from chimaera)21:03
rwpI filed a Debian bug report.  Waiting for the bug number.  bugs.debian.org has been very slow the past few days.21:07
brocashelmthanks21:07
brocashelmit's also happening on arch, so likely an upstream bug21:13
rwphttps://bugs.debian.org/996174 wget: Spurious SSL_INIT in 1.21.2-121:33
rwpI almost never am fast enough to be the first filer so we will see if it turns out to be a duplicate or not. :-)21:33
rwpbrocashelm, Fixed upstream already: https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/wget.git/commit/?id=3ea9658c072fa1dc87aec7af45393b46904b143f21:37
rwpAnd here is the commit with the "accident" https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/wget.git/commit/src/gnutls.c?id=5fe8d26904880ab59b2343f31ff7399edbbc43f121:38
brocashelmnice21:38
rwpFixed in the main trunk but Sept 7 v1.21.2 was tagged and released which included the bug.  Fixed Sept 9.  But no release tag made since.21:42
rwpWhich for something like this would be really good if they tagged it and made a release so that distros could and would just pass it through.21:42
rwpUpstream bug report: https://savannah.gnu.org/bugs/?6112521:44
rwpI posted a gentle nudge there since the maintainer originally reacted that a new release would happen within a week and it has now been a month.21:49

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