Afdal | What's the name of that archive GUI tool *buntu distributions usually use | 02:19 |
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Afdal | I think I hate xarchiver | 02:19 |
Afdal | all I wanna do is extract something and it doesn't have extract-the-dang-archive-in-the-directory-where-the-archive-file-resides behavior | 02:19 |
hyrcanus | dpkg -X thing.deb . | 02:23 |
GoatAvenger | Afdal, Mate Desktop Environment comes with "engrampa" | 02:45 |
GoatAvenger | I don't know about Gnome.. | 02:46 |
CAPTCHA_REQUIRED | Afdal, I've forked an old version of engrampa | 03:30 |
CAPTCHA_REQUIRED | you can use it if you want | 03:30 |
CAPTCHA_REQUIRED | it uses gtk2 | 03:30 |
systemdlete | running an xrdp server on beowulf works fine for remmina clients, but I'm having difficulty with an ascii box connecting from the same instance of remmina. | 07:35 |
systemdlete | Now, I already know some people here will say, "what? you're running RDP, don't you know that ... <various security problems, etc>" | 07:36 |
systemdlete | But I am only doing this on my home network, and I trust all the users here (there is exactly 1 user, in fact) | 07:37 |
systemdlete | So back to getting RDP to work on ascii -- if that is even supported. I've tried some things I found online and they say only 1 user can be logged in, so I tried that, but to no avail. | 07:37 |
systemdlete | I get a blank screen every time, no matter what I do. | 07:38 |
systemdlete | Remmina tells me it is connecting and completes that without an error. But all I get is a black screen. | 07:38 |
systemdlete | btw, all of this is for mere convenience. I can always log into the remote ascii machine. But I was playing with a bunch of remote systems via remmina and noticed this one problem system. | 07:41 |
systemdlete | otoh, although it is for my convenience, maybe a solution (if known/possible) can help someone else | 07:41 |
systemdlete | I've also tried this while slim is and isn't running on the target ascii box. | 07:43 |
systemdlete | I'm going to be upgrading the ascii box to chimaera as soon as it is released. So there won't be any more questions re ascii from me after that. | 07:43 |
systemdlete | I'm just kind of hoping I can make this work for the next few weeks until the new release is out | 07:44 |
systemdlete | I supose I could try setting up a vnc server instead. | 07:45 |
hyrcanus | hello systemdlete i have a binary would you please run it on your server | 07:46 |
systemdlete | how? I have an external firewall. | 07:47 |
systemdlete | on a different system | 07:47 |
systemdlete | (it's openwrt router) | 07:47 |
systemdlete | but, yeah, I've heard that about RDP | 07:47 |
hyrcanus | oh ok | 07:47 |
systemdlete | is that not enough? | 07:47 |
systemdlete | I mean, hyrcanus, if I were attempting something like this over the Internet, I would not go with RDP! | 07:48 |
hyrcanus | seems hardware-compressed h264 works pretty well nowadays, for a screen mirror | 08:44 |
ukine | hyrcanus: there are some hdmi->iptv (x264) boxes that can be had reasonably from aliexpress | 08:46 |
hyrcanus | neat | 08:46 |
ukine | i commented on them (a bit off-coloredly, to my current detriment of mind..) on imgur once | 08:46 |
ukine | i was going over, at the time, docsis/cable tv home networking systems, the current status of such in copyright land, and the tech at the time some years ago | 08:48 |
ukine | hdhomerun, plex, hdmi copyright bit ignorance etc | 08:48 |
ukine | i have since stopped the copyright abuse in its' entirety... | 08:49 |
ukine | times have changed regarding that and i could not support all-out pirating any more | 08:49 |
ukine | remember when dvd decrypter (decss..) had its' on song in which the master key was sung, thereby making cracking dvds art? lol | 08:51 |
ukine | i tried so hard to vhs hackers (from blockbuster)->a blank tape with two vcr's in my youth, to no avail, because macrovision | 08:54 |
hyrcanus | suppression of media 'piracy' is excellent to any degree it helps prevent people from viewing that trash | 08:54 |
ukine | it's great how the mind changes as you grow | 08:55 |
ukine | brain science is fascinating | 08:55 |
ukine | hi jla | 09:09 |
ukine | lol | 09:21 |
ukine | hi knidos | 09:26 |
ukine | how have you been? | 09:26 |
hyrcanus | the vermicious knids | 09:54 |
ukine | hah | 10:08 |
hyrcanus | i made a funny for 'cat'ing to people's terminal (e.g. .bashrc) http://0x0.st/-0IQ.ans | 10:10 |
hyrcanus | you can curl it | 10:10 |
chozorho | I am afraid to run that... it looks extremely sketchy | 10:14 |
chozorho | you're sure it's not some reverse SSH port? | 10:15 |
onefang | It looks off topic to. | 10:18 |
hyrcanus | all .bashrc fun is fun | 10:39 |
jla | Chimaera fresh install ... cannot use '$ cal ... ' command in bash ? what am i missing ? | 13:05 |
jla | which package am i missing ? | 13:07 |
debdog | https://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=contents&keywords=cal&mode=exactfilename&suite=stable&arch=any | 13:08 |
tr-amarsh04 | calendar ? | 13:08 |
tr-amarsh04 | suggested by bsdmainutils | 13:09 |
tr-amarsh04 | or ncal | 13:09 |
tr-amarsh04 | which bsdmainutils depends on | 13:10 |
tr-amarsh04 | which quilt depends on, which devscripts recommends | 13:12 |
jla | got it, thX | 13:20 |
aid | Hey, anyone seen this already: libvorbisfile3 : "Depends: libvorbis0a (= 1,3.6-2) but 1.3.6-2 is installed"? | 13:34 |
james1138 | Good Morning. General question about this channel. Is it for purely Devuan or can questions/comments/concerns about Devuan-variant distros be made here? If not... would anyone know what channel?? | 15:30 |
fsr | james1138, it's for support. Mainly for devuan, but questions about devuan derivatives might get answered. They are not forbidden. | 15:32 |
james1138 | Thanx FSR. Just wondering. I am using "Star Linux" (A desktop-oriented Linux distribution based on Devuan GNU+Linux) on my laptop and did not want to overstep the bounds. | 15:35 |
james1138 | https://www.devuan.org/os/devuan-distros | 15:37 |
fsmithred | you do have to ask a question before you can get an answer. | 15:39 |
fsmithred | brb | 15:39 |
marekania | hello | 18:28 |
marekania | how I can change language when system boot? I know the TAB must use, but i don't know, what I must use option | 18:29 |
rwp | If only marekania had stayed around 2 more minutes to hear "dpkg-reconfigure locales"! | 18:33 |
fsmithred | that sounds like a question about the isolinux boot menu in the live isos | 18:35 |
fsmithred | language option in the boot menu says Press TAB to edit | 18:36 |
fsmithred | and you have to edit the country codes in the boot command | 18:36 |
fsmithred | default is set to Italian | 18:36 |
* me_ waves | 18:54 | |
me_ | hello all | 18:57 |
me_ | Thanks for the chimaera release,wrong channel , yes, but thanks all the same. | 18:57 |
lts | Oh, Chimaera is officially released. I didn't know because no one has updated the topic :-) | 19:05 |
hagbard | What does this mean? "Repository 'http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus InRelease' changed its 'Origin' value from 'Devuan' to 'None'" | 19:59 |
fsmithred | hagbard, it means chimaera was released | 20:00 |
fsmithred | and I think we forgot to do something first | 20:01 |
fsmithred | hagbard, to fix it, run 'apt update' and say 'yes' to the question. | 20:03 |
fsmithred | (if I am remembering correctly) | 20:03 |
hagbard | That worked, thanks. | 20:04 |
fsmithred | oh, I think the isos got made before the repos were adjusted | 20:05 |
user____ | wb fsmithred | 20:29 |
fsmithred | thanks, user____ . Unfortunately, it's temporary. | 20:37 |
rm | hello | 21:16 |
hyrcanus | yes | 21:17 |
rm | the Chimaera torrent doesn't download, could ones responsible check it? | 21:17 |
rm | I added it to seedbox, but it just sits there at 0% | 21:18 |
mason | rm: I haven't seen that the new seeds are up, but we can check. | 21:21 |
ksx4system | Chimaera is stable now, yay! | 21:23 |
ksx4system | time to update my boxes I guess | 21:23 |
_alv_ | hi is there the devuan meeting this evening ??? | 21:35 |
_alv_ | and if yes where ?? | 21:36 |
_alv_ | :D | 21:36 |
Afdal | so what's the official way to upgrade to Chimaera | 21:37 |
Afdal | Does this guide work https://www.devuan.org/os/documentation/dev1fanboy/en/upgrade-to-beowulf.html | 21:37 |
rwp | Mostly, yes, that will be mostly fine. | 21:38 |
Afdal | They mostly come at night | 21:38 |
Afdal | mostly | 21:39 |
rwp | Since you are already at Beowulf you don't need to explicitly install the devuan-keyring. | 21:39 |
rwp | We should take off and nuke them from orbit. It's the only way to be sure. | 21:39 |
Afdal | If this upgrade doesn't work for me | 21:39 |
Afdal | it's game over, man | 21:39 |
rwp | The other line with upower is also not needed because again you are already running Beowulf so not needed. | 21:40 |
rwp | After the upgrade I would "apt-get clean" rather than "apt-get autoclean". Free up more disk space and the upgrade will have pulled everything in and not needed afterward. | 21:41 |
golinux | Afdal: there is a script hidden at the bottom of that page that might be more robust for your needs. | 21:41 |
golinux | Oops . . . that might have been for migration not upgrade. | 21:42 |
* golinux is old and confused. | 21:42 | |
Afdal | What's the difference between clean and autoclean anyway | 21:42 |
rwp | autoclean removes downloaded cached .deb files that are no longer available for upgrade, the older files. | 21:43 |
rwp | clean removes all of the downloaded cached .deb files. | 21:43 |
rwp | After an upgrade these days 100% of all packages are changed and therefore upgraded and therefore downloaded to /var/cache/apt/archives/ and that can consume a lot of disk space. | 21:43 |
rwp | And you already installed them so it is unlikely that you will need them again. | 21:44 |
Afdal | Chimaera in the pipe, five by five... | 21:44 |
rwp | The time when those are particularly useful is when one is playing with something, install it, purge it, install it, purge it, and the install only needs to download it once. | 21:44 |
rwp | But after a 100% package roll that is most upgrades the likelihood of you using one of those again is low. | 21:45 |
rwp | From there moving forward will be new packages due to security upgrades and that will just be the normal flow of packages moving forward. | 21:45 |
Vector_Gorgoth | Quick report for anyone who cares - cloud.cfg is fucked for chimaera ... defaults to Debian values. Leaving the old config in place works, but I'm not sure what would happen if someone was unwise enough to use the package config by mistake. | 22:21 |
hyrcanus | ^ | 23:16 |
plasma41 | V | 23:16 |
ksx4system | does anyone here use PHP builds mentioned in post linked here? http://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=20270#p20270 | 23:17 |
ksx4system | working very well on Beowulf but I'm going to upgrade to Chimaera tonight | 23:17 |
plasma41 | ksx4system: I'm unfamiliar with those PHP builds (or PHP programming in general, for that matter) | 23:20 |
ksx4system | plasma41: well, I'll check again if they have builds for Chimaera ready | 23:26 |
ksx4system | (they didn't not long ago) | 23:26 |
golinux | A lot of folks use those packages quite happily. | 23:31 |
ksx4system | golinux, myself included :) but currently on 3.1 | 23:41 |
ksx4system | well, I'll just leave this line in sources.list as it is | 23:41 |
* ksx4system has no idea what could go wrong | 23:42 |
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