| mh1994hn4114 | Hello folk, since this drives me mad for over tha last five hours, I hope to find some assistance here... Could anyone suggest what to do when not finding a fitting "generic epson driver" in the devuan repos? Or what to do, when the manufacturer's Driver is not working (hard to finish debug from the Logs for me...) I've been successful using the gutenprint ppd's for a different model making almost the desired prints, but it's just no | 00:37 |
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| mh1994hn4114 | t my model so the Output doesnt fit (real quick: sorry for the redundancy). If I'm taking the opensource-driver from EPSON itself i just wont get it done.. /opt/.../espcr-wrapper is just installed by the alienated -so it's a *.deb-file now - *filename*.rpm, aswell as its delivers README and the PPD's. Mine is to be found but yeah... what am I missing without the gutenprint- stuff (which I removed along the way)..? | 00:37 |
| plasma41 | mh1994hn4114: What's the model of your printer? | 00:38 |
| mh1994hn4114 | it's an "Epson ET-2720" | 00:38 |
| mh1994hn4114 | maybe I need to make some symlinks into the 'usr'-directories? :'D I can remember having issues with this model in the past (which i managed to get resolved) on CentOS, as far as I remember. | 00:40 |
| * blockhead cheers at Chimaera going Stable :) | 00:42 | |
| rwp | mh1994hn4114, How are you communicating to it? It lists USB and Wireless. | 00:43 |
| mh1994hn4114 | so I'll try get more precise on the Error's I find after trying something with another ppd i just found on my drive *CHEERING* | 00:43 |
| mh1994hn4114 | rwp It's USB | 00:43 |
| mh1994hn4114 | @rwp | 00:43 |
| rwp | I have had endless driver trouble with USB connectivity. | 00:44 |
| rwp | No need for the @ on IRC. That's a new school thing on Twitter. | 00:44 |
| mh1994hn4114 | gotcha | 00:44 |
| rwp | I have had very good luck using the network IPP driver. That's fairly standard. | 00:44 |
| rwp | I always prefer the ethernet wired connectivity if possible. But the specs on that list only Wireless. So I think it's either WiFi or USB with it. | 00:45 |
| rwp | But anyway you might try connecting to it over the WiFi instead of USB and using the IPP driver. Since as I mentioned the network IPP driver is more standard. | 00:45 |
| rwp | Meanwhile... Sounds like you made some progress. So if that works for you then that is of course great too! :-) | 00:46 |
| mh1994hn4114 | nice suggestion there! what is the package i need for IPP? A standard one I assume? | 00:46 |
| rwp | All included in the normal CUPS installation. So probably nothing needed. | 00:46 |
| rwp | Nothing beyond talking to cups http://localhost:631/ and doing an add printer from there for it. | 00:47 |
| mh1994hn4114 | well it's educational, but not that type of "work" I wanna do atm! :D | 00:47 |
| plasma41 | I personally find it frustrating how rarely printers document what their native page description language is. Any printer that doesn't speak raw PostScript is just a pain. | 00:48 |
| adhoc | mh1994hn4114: knowing the basics on linux, opens up lots of other "work" opportunities =) | 00:48 |
| rwp | CUPS annoys me because it is both trying to be very dynamic and very dumb about it too. So sometimes you can search and find the printer on the system automatically and sometimes you must target the printer you want to add. | 00:48 |
| mason | Safer to explicate printers. | 00:48 |
| adhoc | plasma41: postscript is a raritty these days, most things are PCL5 or is that HPL5 ... ? | 00:49 |
| rwp | Rage against the Machine was never really specific about which type of machine they were furious with but I think it was probably a printer. | 00:49 |
| * adhoc remembers fondly the HP lasterjet 4m ... | 00:49 | |
| mason | example: lpadmin -p HP -v ipp://my.print.server/printers/HP_LaserJet_Professional_P1109w -m raw -E | 00:49 |
| adhoc | rwp: i expect you are right on there... | 00:49 |
| plasma41 | It doesn't help that this printer is only explicitly advertised with Windows and macOS support. | 00:49 |
| adhoc | rwp: and anything to do with paper in general | 00:50 |
| mh1994hn4114 | plasma41 I think its some kind of BASIC what it talks but It might also be just a coupling of some more things I'm not able to interpret atm | 00:50 |
| rwp | Pretty sure in mason's example that my.print.server could be changed into the IP address the printer got from DHCP and that would target it. | 00:50 |
| mason | yes | 00:50 |
| rwp | Of course I just look in my DHCP server logs but for most people using a cable modem usually logging into the cable modem admin page will have a page listing devices and IP addresses. | 00:51 |
| mason | and -p HP is my local name for a printer, but could be something else | 00:51 |
| rwp | That's how I would locate the IP address of something just connected to it by WiFi. | 00:51 |
| plasma41 | adhoc: PCL is my second preference. Anything else is usually just some proprietary crap. | 00:51 |
| plasma41 | adhoc: I have and regularly use a HP LaserJet 4M. They just don't make printers like they did back in 1993. :-) | 00:52 |
| rwp | My most recent laserjet (M283fdw) from two years ago does both PCL and Postscript. But no they are not as solid as the old LJ 4M. | 00:53 |
| plasma41 | I even upgraded my LaserJet with a 8MB SIMM for a total of 10MB! (oooh! ahhh!) | 00:55 |
| golinux | (as this thread veers OT . . .) | 00:56 |
| mh1994hn4114 | rwp: there's a saying in german that's: The one laughing last (about sth.) is having the most of it..! The lol just got me right now | 00:57 |
| mh1994hn4114 | thank you guys for the interesting stuff 'bout that topic! | 00:58 |
| onefang | The English "He who laughs last, laughs best." | 00:58 |
| mh1994hn4114 | Fine by me! ;-) | 00:58 |
| rwp | Speaking of topics... I hear that today it is time to change the channel topic! Cheers to Chimaera! :-) | 00:58 |
| blockhead | yes it went stable - i just checked teh devuan site | 00:59 |
| blockhead | then did an update, a surprising amount of packages were updated | 01:00 |
| rwp | Major releases these days are almost always 100% because if nothing else the project is recompiling all of the packages every release now. | 01:01 |
| rwp | So dpkg -l | wc -l on a full DE system here says 1784 packages installed. That's how many would upgrade. Pretty much anyway. | 01:02 |
| Vall | Howdy everyone, and congrats to the team on the release of Devuan 4 Chimaera! | 01:02 |
| Vall | BTW, the topic for this channel still says "(Beowulf 3.1 stable, ASCII 2.1 old-stable)" :-) | 01:03 |
| blockhead | oopsie | 01:03 |
| rwp | Vall, You are too late to the party as we were just talking about exactly that. :-) | 01:03 |
| plasma41 | joerg: Would you please update the channel topic? | 01:04 |
| Vall | rwp: better lateto the party than never, as long as the cocktails are still being served ;-) | 01:04 |
| * Vall wants his cocktail stirred, not shaken | 01:05 | |
| Vall | ;-) | 01:05 |
| joerg | when I tell me the update then I might ponder | 01:05 |
| joerg | when you* | 01:05 |
| golinux | Chimaera is now stable | 01:05 |
| Vall | golinux: yay! | 01:05 |
| joerg | sorry | 01:07 |
| joerg | so, what's the update needed? | 01:08 |
| joerg | please provide verbatim text | 01:08 |
| Vall | It's been over 5 years since Devuan started, and man, it's really nice having it as an alternative without fricking systemd. I use it in all my servers and VPSes, and would really like to run it on my and the wife's notebooks... will prolly try again with Chimaera (with Beowulf, the hardware support was not good enough, unfortunately -- it's a n HP Zbook 17 G4) | 01:08 |
| blockhead | erm: https://www.devuan.org | 01:09 |
| Vall | Has anyone here tried Chimaera on an HP notebook already? | 01:09 |
| plasma41 | joerg: "Welcome to Devuan! https://devuan.org | Releases: https://files.devuan.org (Chimaera 4.0 stable, Beowulf 3.1 old-stable) | Forum https://dev1galaxy.org | Chanlogs http://reisenweber.net/irclogs/libera/_devuan/ | take offtopic chat to #devuan-offtopic" | 01:10 |
| * blockhead cheers | 01:11 | |
| fluffywolf | oh boy. should I upgrade now, or wait a week so everyone else can figure out what goes in the point release? :) | 01:12 |
| blockhead | the point release? | 01:13 |
| onefang | You mean would upgrading now be ... pointless? B-) | 01:13 |
| * blockhead claps | 01:13 | |
| fluffywolf | blockhead: 4point1, for example. | 01:14 |
| blockhead | ohhh, i see. thank you/ | 01:14 |
| * fluffywolf looks for something to throw at onefang. :P | 01:15 | |
| fluffywolf | bbl, need to go get kerosene for my heater. | 01:16 |
| onefang | Just don't throw that at me, gonna be a hot day already. | 01:17 |
| se7en | I am upgrading to Chimeria, and apt says there's not enough room /var/cache/apt/archives/. I deleted the entire directory, and it still claims to not have enough room | 01:21 |
| se7en | Should I delete my logs? | 01:21 |
| plasma41 | se7en: Try running `apt clean` first? | 01:22 |
| se7en | I have done so | 01:23 |
| se7en | btw | 01:23 |
| se7en | Err:14 tor+http://devuanfwojg73k6r.onion/merged chimaera-proposed Release | 01:23 |
| se7en | 404 Not Found [IP: 127.0.0.1 9050] | 01:23 |
| se7en | 2254 upgraded, 497 newly installed, 194 to remove and 7 not upgraded. | 01:24 |
| se7en | Need to get 4,642 MB of archives. | 01:24 |
| se7en | After this operation, 2,153 MB of additional disk space will be used. | 01:24 |
| se7en | E: You don't have enough free space in /var/cache/apt/archives/. | 01:24 |
| se7en | My /var partition is only 1.3GB | 01:24 |
| plasma41 | se7en: Yes, that is the old Tor v2 URL. The new Tor v3 URL is (looking it up...) | 01:25 |
| se7en | The other v2s resolve properly | 01:25 |
| se7en | Also, release-notes for chrimera also are v2 tor url | 01:26 |
| plasma41 | hmm... is chimaera-proposed supposed to be chimaera-proposed-updates? | 01:26 |
| plasma41 | tor+http://devuanauxrkggcowgm2vcs6go3c5pgxdidd5wqjpg7zpfaxkmgspr6id.onion/merged | 01:27 |
| se7en | https://files.devuan.org/devuan_chimaera/Release_notes.txt | 01:28 |
| plasma41 | rrq: ^^^ re: tor urls | 01:28 |
| Unit193 | +1 for vanity addresses, terrible for verification but great for differentiation. | 01:29 |
| se7en | Again, my /var is only 1.3GB. Can I change the location apt stores the files temporarily, such as /tmp? | 01:29 |
| gnarface | you can symlink to anywhere... | 01:30 |
| plasma41 | se7en: You might be able to due some hacky things with symlinks. | 01:30 |
| gnarface | there was an option to make apt take less ram though too wasn't there? | 01:30 |
| gnarface | oh if it's about the disk space though not sure | 01:31 |
| gnarface | you could also just update a few packages at a time | 01:31 |
| se7en | That would take hours | 01:31 |
| se7en | This is a distribution upgrade that has 1000+ packages to upgrade | 01:32 |
| se7en | Err:32 tor+http://devuanauxrkggcowgm2vcs6go3c5pgxdidd5wqjpg7zpfaxkmgspr6id.onion/merged chimaera-proposed Release | 01:32 |
| se7en | 404 Not Found [IP: 127.0.0.1 9050] | 01:32 |
| se7en | What is chimaera-proposed? | 01:32 |
| plasma41 | se7en: symlink to a large usb flash drive is probably the easiest (though still somewhat hacky) workaround. | 01:33 |
| plasma41 | chimaera-proposed-updates is described at https://www.devuan.org/os/packages#add-stable-proposed-updates-default-no | 01:35 |
| se7en | ln -rs /var/cache/apt/archives /tmp/apt-tmp | 01:35 |
| se7en | Right? | 01:35 |
| se7en | Still says not enough space | 01:35 |
| plasma41 | se7en: I'm not sure about the -r option. | 01:35 |
| se7en | My /tmp is only 56k | 01:38 |
| se7en | I'm going to symlink to my /home | 01:38 |
| plasma41 | Assuming you want to use /tmp/apt-tmp as additional space (assuming it's on a separate partition to /var/cache/apt/archives) run `cd /tmp/apt-tmp; ln -s /var/cache/apt/archives`. | 01:39 |
| se7en | Still not workng | 01:40 |
| plasma41 | You may run into permission issues using /home. Then again, apt will be running as root, so maybe not. | 01:40 |
| se7en | 2254 upgraded, 497 newly installed, 194 to remove and 7 not upgraded. | 01:40 |
| se7en | Need to get 4,642 MB of archives. | 01:40 |
| se7en | After this operation, 2,153 MB of additional disk space will be used. | 01:40 |
| se7en | E: You don't have enough free space in /var/cache/apt/archives/. | 01:40 |
| se7en | [16:40 root@lappy se7en] > cd apt-tmp/ | 01:40 |
| se7en | [16:40 root@lappy apt-tmp] > ln -s /var/cache/apt/archives | 01:40 |
| plasma41 | se4 | 01:41 |
| plasma41 | se7en: How are your disk(s) partitioned? | 01:41 |
| se7en | Luks-encrypted | 01:41 |
| se7en | http://ix.io/3BM0 | 01:42 |
| plasma41 | se7en: I just realized I had you link in the wrong direction. | 01:45 |
| joerg | df -h /var/cache/ | 01:46 |
| se7en | Filesystem Type Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on | 01:47 |
| se7en | /dev/mapper/lappy--vg-var ext4 2.7G 1.6G 1.1G 60% /var | 01:47 |
| joerg | there you are - >>Need to get 4,642 MB of archives<< | 01:47 |
| se7en | I'm aware | 01:48 |
| se7en | I already said that | 01:48 |
| se7en | Yet symlinking to my home directory still fails | 01:48 |
| blockhead | it's a bit advanced, but lvm partitions can be resized - just not while they are mounted | 01:48 |
| se7en | That's a good way to get extreme fragmentation | 01:48 |
| blockhead | yes, unfortunately | 01:49 |
| plasma41 | se7en: luks and lvm are outside my field of experience. | 01:49 |
| joerg | I'd suggest to plug in an USB memstick and symlink or mount that over /var/cache/apt | 01:49 |
| se7en | I don't have one large enough | 01:49 |
| joerg | aalso check >>After this operation, 2,153 MB of additional disk space will be used<< on df -h / | 01:50 |
| joerg | hmm, I guess you can find better advice than mine in here | 01:51 |
| * joerg shuts up | 01:51 | |
| gnarface | se7en: got much ram? there's always zram | 01:52 |
| se7en | I see that my root (/) is 59G with 40G avalible. | 01:52 |
| rwp | Okay to resize partitions bigger and expand the file system on the fly. Experience taught me never to reduce the file system ever. | 01:52 |
| se7en | So I made /apt-tmp | 01:52 |
| se7en | But when I run the ln -s /var/cache/apt/archives in that directory | 01:52 |
| se7en | Apt still claims there is not enough space | 01:52 |
| se7en | Did I do the symlink backwards? | 01:53 |
| gnarface | yes | 01:54 |
| rwp | Another option would be to see what is needing that much space, remove those pkgs first, then upgrade, then install them back. | 01:54 |
| se7en | I went to /var/cache/apt/archives and did ln -s /apt-tmp/ | 01:54 |
| se7en | Still the same problem | 01:54 |
| rwp | Because some things like 0AD are very large. But not critical to "upgrade" so much. | 01:54 |
| se7en | rwp: the space in /var is too small anyway | 01:54 |
| blockhead | joerg: your idea is more sensible than mine | 01:54 |
| se7en | It /still/ says it is wrong | 01:54 |
| gnarface | you want to be in /var/cache/apt and replace ./archives with "ln -s /apt-tmp ./archives" | 01:54 |
| rwp | Unfortunately 3GB was a standard installer size for /var at some point, maybe even still. I have several systems that size. | 01:55 |
| se7en | ok, gnarface | 01:55 |
| rwp | But so far I don't have texlive and 0AD and libreoffice some other huge pigs needed for the upgrade. :-) | 01:55 |
| joerg | what gnarface said | 01:56 |
| rwp | se7en, After you perform the action please show us ls -ld /var/cache/apt/archives output for verification purposes. | 01:56 |
| se7en | That worked | 01:57 |
| se7en | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 8 Oct 14 16:56 /var/cache/apt/archives -> /apt-tmp | 01:57 |
| gnarface | perfect | 01:57 |
| onefang | This is why I don't do lots of partitions. The big empty space you need right now is always in the wrong one. | 01:57 |
| se7en | Now running `apt full-upgrade` without issue | 01:58 |
| se7en | Gonna take a while, of coursre | 01:58 |
| * joerg got a reminder to patch the `mount /usr/local/home/root /root/` somewhere into that raspi's init scripts | 02:00 | |
| rwp | onefang, For a laptop... Just put everything in one partition. For a server with 15TB of storage... Partitions are useful. Everything in their right place. | 02:00 |
| joerg | ro /-fs | 02:00 |
| joerg | sucks | 02:00 |
| joerg | sorry off topic | 02:00 |
| Vall | folks, gotta go. see y'all tomorrow, have a good one! | 02:22 |
| * Vall waves | 02:23 | |
| adhoc | whats the recommendation about getting ascii dist-upgraded to chimaera ? | 02:34 |
| adhoc | one hop? | 02:34 |
| adhoc | two hops via beowulf ? | 02:34 |
| golinux | Yes | 02:36 |
| adhoc | here we go then; | 02:37 |
| adhoc | 1197 upgraded, 193 newly installed, 41 to remove and 7 not upgraded. | 02:37 |
| adhoc | Need to get 1,076 MB/1,076 MB of archives. | 02:37 |
| adhoc | the python3 bloat is real... | 02:38 |
| ksx4system | well, apparently there's exactly zero problems with PHP build for other release :) | 03:40 |
| fluffywolf | it's php. it IS a problem. :P | 03:41 |
| ksx4system | fluffywolf, it's popular and there's lots of software written in PHP available | 03:41 |
| * ksx4system does not hate it | 03:41 | |
| fluffywolf | yes, I know. I write too much PHP. | 03:42 |
| ksx4system | wrote some code too :) ages ago lol | 03:42 |
| ksx4system | btw I wonder if anyone tried replacing Debian 10 image within Crostini (it's Linux container within Google Chrome OS) with fresh Devuan | 03:43 |
| ksx4system | I guess I'll have to experiment :) | 03:43 |
| ksx4system | I really doubt that anything in there explicitely needs systemd to live | 03:44 |
| adhoc | ksx4system: I am looking at building devuan containers at work at the moment | 04:02 |
| adhoc | wondering if it is worth building a root filesystem, how small that could be made | 04:03 |
| hyrcanus | how would i get fonts with incorrect glyphs fixed in devua | 04:07 |
| hyrcanus | n | 04:07 |
| Xenguy | The only time that happened to me I'd just upgraded. I rebooted and all was well | 04:12 |
| DarkUranium | Has anyone ever managed to get nvidia-driver installed? I get "installed nvidia-persistenced package post-installation script subprocess returned error exit status 1", and this has been going on for ... a while. | 08:44 |
| DarkUranium | (think years) | 08:44 |
| DarkUranium | I'm on testing. | 08:44 |
| DarkUranium | It's ultimately because /dev/nvidia* is missing apparently, but I've no idea how to fix that. | 08:46 |
| hyrcanus | i had that issue, i think DarkUranium | 09:03 |
| hyrcanus | it was no fun so i quit doing that | 09:04 |
| DarkUranium | hyrcanus: I tried checking the build log, and this is probably the culprit: /var/lib/dkms/nvidia-current/470.57.02/build/common/inc/nv-time.h:217:18: error: 'struct task_struct' has no member named 'state'; did you mean '__state'? | 09:04 |
| hyrcanus | it's probably an important issue to fix but i personally am not available to debug it | 09:05 |
| hyrcanus | could it be related to gcc version DarkUranium ? | 09:26 |
| DarkUranium | I doubt it, for a struct to have the wrong fields? I suspect a kernel headers issue. | 09:27 |
| Guest1 | hi. came here to ask for solution or tips | 09:29 |
| Guest1 | devuan testing, booting to terminal (59MB), autologin on tty1, startx to run i3,i3bar,compton takes 160MB of ram | 09:30 |
| Guest1 | it is far far too much of ram in my opinion | 09:31 |
| Guest1 | devuan stable (same setup) - 129MB | 09:31 |
| humpelstilzchen[ | Guest1: How did you measure it? | 09:32 |
| Guest1 | htop | 09:32 |
| Guest1 | just htop | 09:32 |
| lts | Guest1: testing (chimaera) just became stable, btw. Testing is now daedalus | 09:32 |
| Guest1 | and of course i see errors on tty when I move mouse | 09:32 |
| Guest1 | kernel thinks mymouse is block device | 09:33 |
| Guest1 | well i use chimaera here | 09:34 |
| hyrcanus | did you know compton can do keycolor transparency? for opaque text and icons with transparent backgrounds | 09:36 |
| Guest1 | have no idea | 09:37 |
| hyrcanus | why do you run compton? if I may ask | 09:37 |
| Guest1 | i have even no idea what is it | 09:37 |
| Guest1 | to make xterm transparent | 09:37 |
| hyrcanus | by default the text is also transparent, which impairs contrast | 09:38 |
| hyrcanus | and readability. | 09:38 |
| Guest1 | true, but it is good for me | 09:39 |
| Guest1 | i think I use 0.9 only | 09:39 |
| Guest1 | for active xterm | 09:39 |
| Guest1 | and 0.6 or 0.7 for inactive | 09:40 |
| Guest1 | ok, upgrading devuan to chimaera stable | 09:41 |
| tr-amarsh04 | latest plasma updates in unstable are looking good | 10:02 |
| jla | heya... in Chimaera, experiencig some audio - mic. trouble while on Jitsi (Firefox)videoconf. . It was working fine and suddenly mic. stopeed working | 10:32 |
| malade_mental | happy chimaera release to all the devuaners! | 11:00 |
| sadoon_albader[m | Happy chimaera release to you too! | 12:09 |
| FaFaS | :) Hello! would like to ask, how i can install docker? been following instructions from here https://docs.docker.com/engine/install/debian/ also tried install from script.sh, as i would like to run collaboraoffice CODE, but requires systemd.... Thanks! | 12:29 |
| Belserusk | Hi. I have Devuan Beowolf installed in a VM. Should I upgrade to Chimaera or do a fresh install in a new VM? | 13:01 |
| jla | happy Chimaera :-) | 13:22 |
| hevidevi | hello | 13:27 |
| hevidevi | @fsmithred - your gpg is saying it is expired - i downloaded and checked and verified the minimal-live chimaera4 stable iso just now. Key is correct, just thought id let you know although you are probably aware | 13:28 |
| Atari-Frosch | Just upgraded a not so important virtual server to Chimaera and encountered this: | 15:34 |
| Atari-Frosch | Errors were encountered while processing: | 15:34 |
| Atari-Frosch | python3-reportbug | 15:34 |
| Atari-Frosch | reportbug | 15:34 |
| Atari-Frosch | Now I'm not sure whether I can reboot the system safely or better not … | 15:34 |
| Atari-Frosch | OK, I tried, and it is now running with Chimaera. I just was not sure whether the upgrade process had stopped in between or it just had problems with those two packets. | 16:40 |
| gnarface | it should be safe to run the upgrade again. if all the packages are upgraded nothing will happen. if some were left behind it will try them again | 16:47 |
| lyosha | VERSION | 17:52 |
| lyosha | TIME | 17:54 |
| brocashelm | there's a bug with inxi version 3.3.07-1-1: "Not an ARRAY reference at /usr/bin/inxi line 16007" | 18:40 |
| brocashelm | however, inxi and inxi -Fx do not display this error | 18:41 |
| brocashelm | sample output on a manjaro machine: https://pastebin.com/5A8yPsLb | 18:41 |
| golinux | And what does that have to do with devuan support? | 18:56 |
| brocashelm | because i'm using ceres and this package build is affected. just seeing if anyone else is getting the same problem | 19:05 |
| joerg | was there such a thing like a "no CTCP to channel" flag? | 19:37 |
| joerg | meh, sorry | 19:38 |
| joerg | cmode | 19:38 |
| mason | joerg: thanks | 19:46 |
| giuliano | good afternoon | 20:10 |
| giuliano | i installed nvidia drivers and is appearing a message like this | 20:12 |
| giuliano | udevd[117]: Error running install command 'modprobe -i nvidia-current ' for module nvidia: retcode 1 | 20:12 |
| giuliano | does anyone know how to solve? | 20:12 |
| user____ | What kinds of pattern does xlocate support? glob? re? ere? | 23:21 |
| user____ | Sorry wrong window | 23:21 |
| mason | user____: Void patterns! | 23:25 |
| user____ | https://www.theregister.com/2021/10/15/devuan_4_chimaera_released/ | 23:43 |
| mason | nice nice | 23:43 |
| user____ | mason: void is for #voidlinux , just set up a vm in qemu | 23:43 |
| mason | user____: Yeah. I recognized xlocate. It's fun. I'm just more a fan of the Debian tools in the long run. | 23:45 |
| user____ | I'm a fan of working tools which have a familiar ui... xlocate is not one of them, and void took me 2 half days to "master". | 23:46 |
| mason | They're a good crowd of folks. | 23:46 |
| user____ | Yes, but the docs are crap, cannot install without irc hints, buggy stuff needs workarounds | 23:46 |
| user____ | Small things but they bite. | 23:46 |
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