Tenkawa | yeah I agree | 00:00 |
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Tenkawa | lol | 00:03 |
chozorho | oh, damn... upon looking up the problem, I have come a bit closer (there are specific "proxy" flags you can add to the apache configuration), but... | 00:03 |
Tenkawa | gnarface: the install instructs in the deb tell you to go to an webpage with an extensive install procedure | 00:04 |
Tenkawa | https://searx.github.io/searx/admin/installation.html | 00:04 |
chozorho | now I'm getting a "SSL_ERROR_RX_RECORD_TOO_LONG", which means I'll need a new SSL certificate for it... but idk if certbot will allow me to make a new cert on a custom port number :( | 00:04 |
Tenkawa | chozorho: uggh.. ssl certs have been a bane in my existence for eons | 00:05 |
Tenkawa | they work ... until you "really need them to" | 00:06 |
chozorho | hah, yep I can relate... | 00:07 |
chozorho | good to know I'm not alone | 00:07 |
gnarface | if you don't need it to work for people you don't know you can just make your own certs with openssl | 00:08 |
Tenkawa | gnarface: yeah.. that was the problem.. when I used them I was administrating for regulated entities.. | 00:10 |
Tenkawa | no choice heh | 00:10 |
judabuda | hello | 00:15 |
judabuda | how to fix ssl? | 00:15 |
judabuda | it's hard to use without ssl, since most websites don't work | 00:16 |
judabuda | i get this https://ibb.co/xL2Vm4Z | 00:17 |
judabuda | also when i try to wget something, it also displays ssl error | 00:17 |
gnarface | judabuda: in a normal situation you should have the current version supplied automatically with updates | 00:25 |
gnarface | make sure you have the security and updates lines in your sources.list | 00:25 |
gnarface | if you want me to actually look at the error use paste.debian.net instead | 00:25 |
gnarface | it probably won't tell me much though | 00:26 |
Tenkawa | judabuda: first thing to check with ssl errors too is that your system clock is correct... | 00:33 |
Tenkawa | ssl doesn't like if your time gets reset | 00:34 |
gnarface | oh, yea and dns is more picky now too about the time | 00:34 |
gnarface | if you have all the right packages it could be a clock issue | 00:35 |
adhoc | morning all | 00:36 |
Tenkawa | greetings adhoc | 00:37 |
judabuda | just checked my system clock is incorrect | 08:13 |
judabuda | how do i set it to auto set correct clock in xfce? | 08:14 |
judabuda | checked it's openssl error | 08:20 |
judabuda | anyone know how to fix? | 08:25 |
judabuda | gnarface: how do i set system clock to correct? | 08:36 |
onefang | I use ntp to keep the time correct. | 08:38 |
onefang | NTP is the protocol used al over the world for keeping clocks set to the correct time. ntpd is the software, though there are others. | 08:39 |
judabuda | onefang: how do i use it to set correct time? | 08:39 |
onefang | Just install it, and make sure your time zone is set correctly. | 08:40 |
judabuda | onefang: how do i set my time correctly? | 08:41 |
onefang | Ah "ntp" is the package name. | 08:41 |
onefang | Once it's installed, it starts the ntp deamon, that automatically syncs to time servers. | 08:41 |
judabuda | :O | 08:41 |
judabuda | i installed "ntp" | 08:41 |
judabuda | i think it fixed | 08:42 |
judabuda | ssl errors are gone | 08:42 |
* onefang smiles. | 08:42 | |
jason1234 | Hello a small queestion, how to remove with a power command to remove hibernative feature? I.e. with a "shell or bash command". This is dedicated to maintain several PC (bunch of same laptop/machines to be cured from the systemd hibernative technology on kde desktop) | 09:15 |
penguinherder | Hi All, are there any nvidia experts online? I've just upgraded to Chimaera and I can't find the nvidia-settings package... | 10:42 |
penguinherder | I checked out Debian bullseye, but all the versions numbers for NVidia drivers are very different... | 10:42 |
user282069 | check nvidia-driver | 10:49 |
fsmithred | https://pkginfo.devuan.org/cgi-bin/package-query.html?c=package&q=nvidia-settings=460.91.03-1 | 10:49 |
fsmithred | nvidia-settings in chimaera should be same as bullseye | 10:50 |
penguinherder | Hmmm - I have nvidia-driver installed... | 10:50 |
penguinherder | ... but no nvidia-settings | 10:51 |
fsmithred | I don't know which packages are needed. It's been a few years since I used the proprietary driver. | 10:51 |
user282069 | yes hm this metapackage pulled everything correctly for my card, but i note some caveats in the apt info | 10:51 |
penguinherder | According to bullseye, it's in here: https://packages.debian.org/bullseye/amd64/nvidia-settings/filelist | 10:51 |
penguinherder | But it's a much later version, otherwise I'd have just pushed that package in and given it a try... | 10:52 |
fsmithred | same version as chimaera | 10:52 |
penguinherder | All the NVidia graphics work fine, but I often need to tweak the settings for different games, etc. and I use the nvidia-settings app for that. | 10:52 |
fsmithred | yeah, I used that for brightness controls | 10:53 |
penguinherder | @fsmithred ... hmm ... I have 418.211.00-1 installed from Chimera but it's 460.91.03 in Bullseye. | 10:53 |
penguinherder | Is my Chimera install stale? | 10:53 |
fsmithred | maybe | 10:53 |
fsmithred | check sources.list and update | 10:54 |
penguinherder | Sources.list says: | 10:54 |
penguinherder | deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera main | 10:54 |
penguinherder | deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera-updates main | 10:54 |
penguinherder | deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera-security main | 10:54 |
penguinherder | #deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera-backports main | 10:54 |
fsmithred | don't paste multiple lines. You might get auto-bounced out of the room | 10:54 |
penguinherder | Whoops. | 10:55 |
fsmithred | main contrib non-free | 10:55 |
fsmithred | nvidia is non-free | 10:55 |
penguinherder | AH! @fsmithred, magic, thanks! | 10:56 |
penguinherder | That's pulled in all the latest drivers and nvidia-settings. Thank you for the help. | 11:02 |
fsmithred | thanks for asking a question I knew how to answer. | 11:02 |
penguinherder | For bonus points, you don't know why I get: | 11:02 |
penguinherder | Starting SANE network scanner server: saned/usr/sbin/saned: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libsane.so.1: undefined symbol: libusb_set_option | 11:02 |
penguinherder | Do you? | 11:02 |
fsmithred | looks like someone else's error | 11:03 |
penguinherder | Hopefully that will clear after the reboot as well... | 11:03 |
fsmithred | google the error message if it returns | 11:03 |
penguinherder | I did... not much came up... | 11:03 |
penguinherder | I tried the top hits from Stack Overflow and they didn't cure it, but maybe with the latest updates it's fixed. | 11:04 |
penguinherder | Hi @fsmithred, just popping back in to say that the Nvidia update worked as per your suggestion. Thanks for the help. | 11:53 |
fsmithred | yw | 11:54 |
Vall | Hello everyone | 15:07 |
Vall | What is the best way to test Chimaera on a laptop, without installing it? desktop-live? | 15:09 |
Vall | Perhaps it's best if I qualify my question first. | 15:09 |
Vall | My laptop is a Xeon-based HP Zbook 17 G4, and when I bought it in mid-2018, current Devuan (ASCII if I remember correctly) did not support it well: wifi/bluetooth/sound etc did not work from the get-go, ACPI suspend crashed, hardware keys/switches (RFKill, mute speakers, screen brightness, etc) did nothing when pressed | 15:13 |
Vall | I then installed Ubuntu 18.04 which worked perfectly, which is what I'm using to this day. | 15:14 |
Vall | But the time is coming when I will be forced to either upgrade to the newest Ubuntu, or install something else. I would very much like it to be Devuan, but would like to see how well (or badly) my hardware is going to work before I make the jump. | 15:15 |
Vall | So, what would the best way for me to test it, *without* disturbing the currently installed Ubuntu? | 15:16 |
fsmithred | Vall, yeah, try the desktop-live | 15:25 |
fsmithred | G4 sounds like a mac. is it? | 15:26 |
fsmithred | nm, you said HP | 15:26 |
ShorTie | any way to add like a postinit to the desktop-live install ?? | 15:27 |
fsmithred | there's a way to add hookscripts if you put it on usb | 15:28 |
ShorTie | hookscripts ?? | 15:31 |
fsmithred | yeah, you can read about it in live-boot or live-config (or maybe live-build) man pages | 15:32 |
ShorTie | not much room on the usb though it seems | 15:32 |
fsmithred | small usb? | 15:32 |
ShorTie | oh, ok | 15:32 |
ShorTie | basically just want to add ssh and allow root to login | 15:33 |
fsmithred | isohybrid image on the usb won't work because you won't be able to add files | 15:33 |
brocashelm | perhaps it's just me or a specific machine, but cinnamon and kde plasma seem "broken" on ceres (core packages installed on top of an xfce installation) | 15:34 |
ShorTie | this stupid pc takes like 5 minutes to reboot .. :/~ | 15:34 |
brocashelm | when i launch cinnamon, i see the panel on the bottom, but the desktop is black and i can't right click or see any icons on it | 15:34 |
Vall | fsmithred: nope, no Macs for me (I have an allergy re: Apple stuff ;-)) | 15:34 |
brocashelm | plasma is a bit more functional, but the ui for the windows is either corrupt or missing | 15:35 |
brocashelm | mate, lxqt, and lxde all worked on ceres | 15:35 |
Vall | fsmithred: in case you want to see what the exact hardware is: https://support.hp.com/us-en/document/c05482346 | 15:35 |
brocashelm | i even tested cinnamon on a separate user account on the same machine to see if there might've been something up with the personal configs, but no difference made | 15:37 |
fsmithred | Vall, how old is the machine? | 15:40 |
GyrosGeier | a Xeon E1..5 | 15:42 |
fsmithred | new hardware sometimes requires new kernel | 15:42 |
GyrosGeier | that's a rare beast | 15:42 |
ocin | a few days ago I had posted the following problem here (upgrade ascii to beowulf fails because of eudev): https://dpaste.com/BQH3MMARK.txt - It turns out it is this bug: https://bugs.devuan.org/db/40/407.html It fails because the ascii-backports kernel is too new. the small regex fix in the preinst check makes it work. I have to automate the | 15:47 |
ocin | upgrade on dozens of machines, what would be the best method: 1) downgrade kernel before upgrade (downside: reboot required) 2) modify package myself with the fix from the bug 3) something else. with 2) I don't know if the dist-upgrade dep order will get f'd up if I install the custom eudev deb beforehand. | 15:47 |
Vall | fsmithred: 4.5 years old since launched y HP (April/2017) | 16:12 |
Vall | fsmithred: why did you ask the machine's age? Not nice asking that about a lady (my machines are always a "she") ;-) | 16:18 |
Vall | GyrosGeier: yep, and I love it -- best laptop I ever had (and it's my 9th since I started buying laptops in the mid-1990s). | 16:26 |
Librecat | my sound broke | 16:47 |
Librecat | wierd worked now | 16:50 |
gnarface | jason1234: after you upgrade from systemd i think you can just edit acpid configs in /etc/acpi/events to just remove the suspend hook | 19:24 |
gnarface | i might be wrong but if that doesn't work try removing /usr/sbin/pm-suspend | 19:25 |
gnarface | there's also a config in /etc/default/acpid that does stuff like lets you set command-line parameters for acpid | 19:26 |
gnarface | probably way easier to just disable it in the bios, but that depends on the bios | 19:26 |
gnarface | found some old docs here: https://web.archive.org/web/20101007105045/http://www.columbia.edu:80/~ariel/acpi/acpi_howto.html | 19:27 |
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