ARoxdale | Hello. I'm having issues after upgrading from Beowulf to Chimaera. My wifi has stopped working. wlan0 is not appearing in ifconfig, and network manager lists no available wifi networks. | 01:08 |
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gnarface | any errors in dmesg after boot? | 01:09 |
ARoxdale | Yes. rtw_8822be ... Direct firmware load for rtw88/rtw8822b_fw.bin failed with error -2 | 01:10 |
ARoxdale | There another "failed to request firmware" failure | 01:10 |
gnarface | make sure you have the firmware package for that driver, some of them require a non-free package; maybe yours went missing during the upgrade for whatever reason | 01:11 |
ARoxdale | There's a firmware-realtek package, but when I try to reinstall it with apt, I get an error saying it cannot be downloaded (I am online with ethernet) | 01:15 |
ARoxdale | Do I need to enable non-free packages somewhere? | 01:15 |
gnarface | for that package, yea. you could have a problem with your /etc/apt/sources.list file | 01:15 |
gnarface | make sure your upgrade included the new kernel too (it will not be in non-free, but you still may have omitted it accidentally) | 01:16 |
ARoxdale | It's running 5.10.0.9 I think that's upgraded | 01:17 |
gnarface | i think so yea | 01:17 |
ARoxdale | The version of firmware-realtek installed is 20190114-2. I think that is the same as was on Beowulf | 01:19 |
gnarface | you can check at pkginfo.devuan.org | 01:19 |
gnarface | you will most likely need the version that matches the current kernel | 01:20 |
gnarface | it would make sense that if you upgraded the kernel then the old firmware may stop working | 01:20 |
ARoxdale | I only have "main" in my apt sources. Should I add non-free as well> | 01:21 |
gnarface | yes | 01:22 |
gnarface | well | 01:22 |
gnarface | no | 01:22 |
ARoxdale | The sources list was from this guide: https://www.devuan.org/os/documentation/install-guides/chimaera/upgrade-to-chimaera | 01:22 |
gnarface | you should add non-free just to install this one package, then you should remove it again | 01:23 |
ARoxdale | I'll try it and see if it finds the firmware | 01:23 |
ARoxdale | OK that worked like a charm. Wifi now works on the A485. | 01:26 |
ARoxdale | For the record. I changed the first repo from the guide to "deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera main non-free" | 01:26 |
ARoxdale | I don't think I was prompted about non-free drivers in the upgrade process. It might be worth adding a reference to this in the guide. | 01:27 |
gnarface | it probably doesn't matter in this case, but you typically want non-free on or off on all the lines at once | 01:27 |
gnarface | just fyi | 01:27 |
ARoxdale | OK. Thanks. | 01:27 |
ARoxdale | My only other issue at the moment is that the xfce logout prompt beeps the laptop speaker when opened. Is there a way of turning this off? | 01:28 |
gnarface | hah, maybe | 01:28 |
gnarface | first check alsamixer without pulseaudio running | 01:28 |
gnarface | some drivers also have a module option you can set | 01:29 |
gnarface | occasionally on some hardware it is a bios setting | 01:29 |
gnarface | and on some stuff there's nothing you can do but physically disconnect the speaker | 01:30 |
gnarface | oh, you can probably disable the beep in the system shell and in various terminal emulator settings, and the gui login you're using might obey the shell thing | 01:31 |
gnarface | (maybe) | 01:31 |
ARoxdale | There are references to 'xset b off' online | 01:31 |
ARoxdale | This is unusal because I've used xfce for years and never gotten this PC beep | 01:32 |
gnarface | yea that's the shell thing, if you can get that into the controlling X process then in theory all well-behaved programs (even non-terminal ones) should inherit it | 01:32 |
gnarface | i don't know how to do that for a gui login though | 01:33 |
systemdlete | This version of xfce (chimaera) seems to group same programs together in the panel. How do I ungroup them? I've look through preferences->panel, desktop, tweaks, etc, but so far found nothing. | 04:38 |
systemdlete | (would have been nice for this to be in a context menu... unless I missed that too!) | 04:39 |
Jjp137 | systemdlete, in the panel preferences, go to the items tab, select the Window Buttons item, then click the button that looks like a wrench (it's next to Remove) | 04:45 |
systemdlete | thank you, Jjp137, that was driving me nuts. A bit obscure a fix, huh? It makes sense, but I wouldn't have guessed that in a 1000 years | 04:47 |
systemdlete | I should have figured they'd thrown a wrench into the works! lol | 04:48 |
Jjp137 | np and usually you can right-click a panel item and get to its settings that way, but it's kinda hard to do that in this case | 04:48 |
* systemdlete nods | 04:49 | |
sabas3dgh | hello do you guys have gnome with openRC? | 09:44 |
sabas3dgh | which version of gnome is currently available in devuan repos? | 09:44 |
sabas3dgh | thanks | 09:44 |
bradd | gnome/stable 1:3.38+3 amd64 so maybe 3.38? | 09:46 |
bradd | thats from apt search | 09:47 |
sabas3dgh | What would gnome with OpenRC lack in comparison to gnome-Systemd? | 09:52 |
sabas3dgh | bradd: ? | 09:52 |
bradd | not really sure | 09:52 |
sabas3dgh | do we have devuan gnome iso (current release) for me to download and Install? | 13:43 |
sabas3dgh | thanks | 13:43 |
buZz | sabas3dgh: on devuan, there's not really a seperate iso for just a window manager choice | 13:59 |
buZz | just install devuan and install gnome in that | 13:59 |
furrymcgee | there is a desktop iso | 14:03 |
buZz | right, but the intent is installing , i believe? | 14:04 |
sabas3dgh | What does the ISO come with? | 14:06 |
buZz | stuff .. what are you looking for? | 14:06 |
debdog | GNOME! | 14:06 |
buZz | oh, the -live distro- uses xfce i think? but you could -INSTALL- devuan with gnome with that totally fine | 14:06 |
buZz | or lxce? not sure | 14:07 |
buZz | one of the low-bloat window managers | 14:07 |
debdog | "desktop (4 GB): Use this DVD if there is no network available and/or a need for multiple offline installations. The image contains several desktop choices and additional software options. LXQt and KDE are only available on DVD." | 14:07 |
buZz | not as low as fluxbox , obviously :P | 14:07 |
debdog | https://www.devuan.org/get-devuan#iso-guide-for-i386-and-amd64 | 14:07 |
buZz | thanks debdog | 14:08 |
debdog | so, as far as I can see, there is no devuan install medium containing gnmoe available | 14:08 |
GyrosGeier | I think GNOME is now dependent on systemd and its dbus activation semantics | 14:10 |
GyrosGeier | which are subtly different from dbus-x11 | 14:10 |
debdog | but there are CD ISOs No. 2 to 4 available but I have no idea what's on them | 14:11 |
GyrosGeier | generally, ISOs are sorted by popcon score and cluster | 14:13 |
GyrosGeier | so CD1 will be self-contained and contain the most popular packages | 14:13 |
GyrosGeier | CD1+CD2 together will be self-contained and contain a larger set of the most popular packages | 14:14 |
debdog | well, that is my point. there is no No. 1 CD | 14:14 |
GyrosGeier | etc. | 14:14 |
GyrosGeier | the "server" CD is CD1 | 14:16 |
debdog | ok | 14:16 |
sabas3dgh | Do deavun offer native/full wayland desktop at the moment? | 14:18 |
debdog | sabas3dgh: is a network connection the issue, as in the DVD has to contain gnome? otherwise, AFAICR, the DVD's installer has an option to install gnome but a network connection is required. | 14:18 |
sabas3dgh | No; You mean install gnome from installer, getting the package ONLINE at the same time? | 14:19 |
sabas3dgh | choosing desktop(gnome) in the installation process? | 14:20 |
sabas3dgh | what about wayland? | 14:20 |
debdog | right. gnome | 14:20 |
debdog | wayland. no clue | 14:20 |
sabas3dgh | No wayland? | 14:21 |
debdog | wayland is available but I have no clue how to install it and whether the installer has an option or not. | 14:21 |
sabas3dgh | Thanks a lot for your time guys | 14:52 |
sabas3dgh | Do anyone know how to enable KMS (Kernel Mode Setting) on devuan? | 14:52 |
debdog | should™ be enabled by default | 14:54 |
sabas3dgh | how to check? | 15:03 |
debdog | hmm, good question. I see it during boot, when the screen turns black for a moment and afterwards the resolution is different | 15:13 |
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