| rustyaxe | im running proxmox on mine, there's some devuan vm's on there; home assistant os, etc | 08:53 |
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| muad_dib_whyIsMy | Installed devuan Daedalus from the X-based installed, it did not apparently install any boot blocks/mbr. I know the system worked under proxmox [which had very poor ethernet drivers, but booted ] | 20:41 |
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| rustyaxe | I dont use virtualbox, rather proxmox and virt-manager where needful, but im sure its similar to them | 23:05 |
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| stefan_ | comes with 4 GB by default but I upgraded it and will be moving many VMs from proxmox to it | 21:31 |
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| buZz | jirib: some people install 'proxmox' on top of devuan | 10:33 |
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| lts- | That used to be the case IIRC that openvswitch was required for this, but that changed a few years ago. Basically you just create a bridge, set "bridge-vlan-aware yes", and give the bridge to your VMs as their network device. https://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/Network_Configuration#_vlan_802_1q has some information | 13:46 |
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| topro | had a look at the proxmox link, might be worth a try, too. thank you, I think now I got enough to try to fix it | 13:57 |
| systemdlete | can we add systemd-shim to the chimaera packages? I'm trying to build it right now for myself, but it would be nice if it were already available for certain tricky installs (like proxmox) | 23:35 |
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| systemdlete | proxmox | 23:44 |
| rwp | For proxmox again AFAIK you would need to be blazing the trail yourself for how to run it since I have heard it has a hard dependency upon systemd. | 23:45 |
| systemdlete | "it" --> shim, proxmox, systemd, linux ? | 23:46 |
| rwp | One issue I know is that proxmox is basically from 3rd party repositories from Proxmox itself, right? And they have "drank the koolaid" and embraced systemd. | 23:47 |
| rwp | Sorry. "it" in my "Other people have mentioned it as a problem." referred to proxmox. I have heard it spoken of as a problem. | 23:51 |
| systemdlete | It's no wonder that proxmox is not in our repo--guess what it depends on? >( | 00:23 |
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| systemdlete | proxmox describes itself as open source... | 00:25 |
| systemdlete | If I wanted to use proxmox, would I get it from their repos, or does devuan/debian have it already? | 22:26 |
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| systemdlete | but that web page does not return anything for "*proxmox*" except some python APIs for it. | 22:30 |
| systemdlete | but a page on proxmox seems to indicate that it is in contrib (I think) | 22:32 |
| systemdlete | nothing to do with contrib, other than maybe proxmox needs it for their dependencies perhaps | 22:34 |
| buZz | fyi, ever tried proxmox? :) | 17:35 |
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| RhineDevil | proxmox has systemd and it isn't nice to use as workstation too | 17:37 |
| buZz | RhineDevil: you know, stuff like proxmox can do -all that- for you ;) | 20:30 |
| blizzow | Libvirt provides a fair bit of glue for other projects like mist.io/proxmox... | 00:43 |
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| buZz | this is how proxmox is running kvms with networking , and havent had similar issues with it | 15:38 |
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| HumanG33k | no network issue with proxmox for me | 15:43 |
| systemdlete | rwp: Is proxmox in the repo? | 21:57 |
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| rwp | https://proxmox.com/en/ is really an entire turnkey installation, I guess. | 21:59 |
| golinux | Boradt: http://reisenweber.net/irclogs/libera/_devuan/search?q=proxmox | 04:49 |
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| Hydragyrum | I saw something on the logs about using an old version of proxmox from before debian started using systemd | 05:02 |
| Hydragyrum | and it may be easy to create a mirror of the proxmox repo with some changes to remove systemd deps | 05:02 |
| Hydragyrum | honestly for most home/hobbyist use, libvirt is about as good as proxmox for VM management | 05:09 |
| leizaola | I personally run debian on proxmox lxc containers, I have a master template where I removed systemd then I clone it and spawn all my other containers from it.... | 08:29 |
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| leizaola | is there a debuan proxmox template? | 08:30 |
| gnarface | as for proxmox, maybe check the forum (url in /topic) | 08:31 |
| Human_G33k | also a console on the proxmox webui | 05:28 |
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| rennj | proxmox | 01:32 |
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| rennj | ive read good things about proxmox vs vmware esxi and it having a vcenter like interface | 14:56 |
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| buZz | i wonder if they finally fixed proxmox to install onto devuan yet | 22:44 |
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| crhylove | I'm thinking I can start with refracta as a base, see about porting an older pre-systemD version of proxmox.... | 22:55 |
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| crhylove | But based on the same devuan core, with proxmox clustering built in to all of them. | 22:57 |
| buZz | i wish upgrading a devuan jessie to devuan ascii wouldnt kill LXC containers on proxmox :( | 23:01 |
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| buZz | right, i just mean , if i have a proxmox lxc running jessie, if i upgrade it to beowulf its a broken system | 23:04 |
| buZz | i wonder why a ascii inside proxmox 'crashes' before giving a login prompt, while a jessie in proxmox works fine | 09:11 |
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| buZz | tried to adopt this to ascii; https://git.proxmox.com/?p=dab-pve-appliances.git;a=blob_plain;f=devuan-1.0-standard-64/dab.conf;hb=HEAD | 09:12 |
| meowschwitz | I imagine noone here is a maintainer for proxmox ascii template? | 20:03 |
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| meowschwitz | I'm trying to use proxmox DAB to build a devuan template | 20:10 |
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| buZz | i'm using proxmox to manage it for me | 11:33 |
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| buZz | and keep pushing off of trying to install proxmox on top of devuan | 11:34 |
| jaromil | proxmox supports lxc2 already? | 11:37 |
| buZz | i think proxmox still uses lxc1 , couldnt find it, but i'll ask ##proxmox | 11:56 |
| buZz | jaromil: fyi, proxmox + containers functions inside of virtualbox, if you wanna try it out | 11:57 |
| jaromil | ok. my wish: i'd like to run proxmox on bare metal to manage lxc2 containers. or anything else that can do that easily | 12:21 |
| buZz | guess proxmox will move to lxc 2.0 before that | 12:42 |
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