libera/##covid-19/ Sunday, 2022-07-17

BrainstormUpdates for Kazakhstan: +1475 cases since 20 hours ago00:01
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: ‘Not just another wave’: Australia’s Covid hospitalisations reach record levels in several states → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/w0rodm/not_just_another_wave_australias_covid/00:46
LjLAustralia :(01:03
LjLzero covid for so long and ruin it all01:03
BrainstormNew from COVID on Twitter: Scott Gottlieb, MD (@ScottGottliebMD):   Vaccination campaigns take time, evidenced by gradual ramp of prior rollouts for covid, flu.  Even once BA.4 bivalent vax is available, hopefully early fall, it’ll take time to expand access, promote uptake. So for vulnerable patients, [... want %more?] → https://twitter.com/ScottGottliebMD/status/154845230323704627201:42
Asakoso is someone who had covid in April, advised to get a 5th vaccine of "BA.4 bivalent" in October/Nov ?01:53
LjL*5th*?01:53
LjLhere they are telling people who have recently had covid to skip their 4th for now, iirc01:54
xxBA.4 bivalent? What's that vaccine?01:56
LjLthe one we won't get in europe01:58
xxthat's why it's not on my radar then02:01
BrainstormNew from COVID on Twitter: Scott Gottlieb, MD (@ScottGottliebMD): There’s a BA.1 bivalent vax ready that could be better against current variants, even as we wait for new BA.4 formulation for better antigenic match to current strains. A question is whether some patients could benefit from BA.1 vax now vs. 4th [... want %more?] → https://twitter.com/ScottGottliebMD/status/154845487694171750402:01
BrainstormUpdates for Malaysia: +5047 cases, +2 deaths, +57250 tests since a day ago02:06
BrainstormNew from COVID on Twitter: Scott Gottlieb, MD (@ScottGottliebMD): Good @profshanecrotty review of immune memory following infection, vaccination, or both for SARS-CoV-2. Even after neutralizing antibodies (and protection against infection) wane; T Cell immunity induced by infection or vaccination persists, [... want %more?] → https://twitter.com/ScottGottliebMD/status/154845722050064384202:10
BrainstormUpdates for Slovakia: +1368 cases since 23 hours ago03:02
AsakoLjL: yes I've had 4 + CV04:03
Asakohttps://twitter.com/ScottGottliebMD/status/154845230323704627204:04
BrainstormUpdates for South Korea: +40342 cases, +14 deaths since 23 hours ago — Thailand: +2028 cases, +18 deaths since 23 hours ago05:01
BrainstormNew from r/COVID19: COVID19: Carbohydrate-Binding Protein from Stinging Nettle as Fusion Inhibitor for SARS-CoV-2 Variants of Concern → https://old.reddit.com/r/COVID19/comments/w0y6zg/carbohydratebinding_protein_from_stinging_nettle/05:56
BrainstormNew from This Week In Virology: TWiV 919: Motivated by volatiles: TWiV reviews the FDA decision to update COVID-19 vaccine boosters in the fall, the meaning of fatigue with respect to long COVID, and a skin volatile induced by flavivirus reproduction that attracts mosquitoes to the infected host. → https://www.microbe.tv/twiv/twiv-919/06:14
BrainstormUpdates for Bolivia: +7433 cases since a day ago07:00
BrainstormUpdates for Tokyo, Japan: +18919 cases, +2 deaths since 23 hours ago — Osaka, Japan: +12351 cases, +1 deaths since 23 hours ago — Kanagawa, Japan: +7637 cases since 23 hours ago — Aichi, Japan: +7268 cases since 23 hours ago08:08
BrainstormNew from r/Science: science: Hyperbaric oxygen therapy improves neurocognitive functions and symptoms of post-COVID condition: randomized controlled trial → https://old.reddit.com/r/science/comments/w103a5/hyperbaric_oxygen_therapy_improves_neurocognitive/08:18
BrainstormUpdates for Cambodia: +18 cases since a day ago09:05
BrainstormNew from Science-Based Medicine: Yet Another Silly Reason Doctors Give For Leaving Babies Vulnerable to COVID, Part 1 : By cherry-picking only the studies that advance their agenda, contrarian doctors who don't care for sick children can misinform parents and further their goal of having unvaccinated children contract COVID [... want %more?] → https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/cherry-picking/09:05
BrainstormUpdates for Taiwan: +24322 cases, +73 deaths since a day ago10:07
BrainstormNew from Reddit (test): Covid2019: Partnership to develop variant proof COVID-19 vaccine - The University of Sydney → https://old.reddit.com/r/Covid2019/comments/w12lb5/partnership_to_develop_variant_proof_covid19/10:30
BrainstormUpdates for Maharashtra, India: +2382 cases, +8 deaths since a day ago — Tamil Nadu, India: +2340 cases since a day ago — Karnataka, India: +1374 cases, +3 deaths since a day ago — Queretaro, Mexico: +1141 cases since a day ago11:16
BrainstormNew from Reddit (test): nCoV: Adverse events after simultaneous COVID-19 mRNA booster, influenza vaccination | 17JUL22 → https://old.reddit.com/r/nCoV/comments/w1413y/adverse_events_after_simultaneous_covid19_mrna/12:04
BrainstormUpdates for Russia: +4664 cases, +46 deaths since a day ago — Afghanistan: +127 cases, +1 deaths, +977 tests since 20 hours ago12:06
BrainstormNew from Reddit (test): nCoV: Pandemic forcing govt to think openly, pragmatically: minister | 16JUL22 → https://old.reddit.com/r/nCoV/comments/w147v9/pandemic_forcing_govt_to_think_openly/12:23
BrainstormNew from Reddit (test): nCoV: Japan logs record 110,000 COVID-19 cases as seventh wave grows | 16JUL22 → https://old.reddit.com/r/nCoV/comments/w14k14/japan_logs_record_110000_covid19_cases_as_seventh/12:41
BrainstormNew from Reddit (test): nCoV: Omicron sub-variant BA.2.38 behind Odisha's Khurda covid surge | 17JUL22 → https://old.reddit.com/r/nCoV/comments/w14ojd/omicron_subvariant_ba238_behind_odishas_khurda/12:50
BrainstormNew from Reddit (test): nCoV: S. Korea’s new COVID-19 cases double to top 40,000 | 17JUL22 → https://old.reddit.com/r/nCoV/comments/w14r7w/s_koreas_new_covid19_cases_double_to_top_40000/12:59
BrainstormNew from Contagion Live: Antibiotic Therapy Often Used Improperly in Kids with MIS-C Related to COVID-19: Most children with multisystem inflammatory syndrome in children (MIS-C) associated with COVID-19 receive improper antimicrobial treatment, according to a [... want %more?] → https://www.contagionlive.com/view/antibiotic-therapy-often-used-improperly-in-kids-with-mis-c-related-to-covid-1913:09
BrainstormUpdates for UAE: +1409 cases, +258194 tests since a day ago — Qatar: +1217 cases since 23 hours ago14:04
BrainstormNew from r/COVID19: COVID19: The duration of the coronavirus's survival in air is determined by relative humidity. → https://old.reddit.com/r/COVID19/comments/w15xaj/the_duration_of_the_coronaviruss_survival_in_air/14:05
BrainstormUpdates for Philippines: +2556 cases, +21276 tests since a day ago — Saudi Arabia: +606 cases, +2 deaths since a day ago15:07
BrainstormNew from Reddit (test): CoronavirusUK: UK has missed chances to prepare for future pandemics, says ex-vaccines tsar → https://old.reddit.com/r/CoronavirusUK/comments/w16fq5/uk_has_missed_chances_to_prepare_for_future/15:20
BrainstormNew from r/COVID19: COVID19: Impact of climate on COVID-19 transmission: A study over Indian states → https://old.reddit.com/r/COVID19/comments/w17y63/impact_of_climate_on_covid19_transmission_a_study/15:58
BrainstormUpdates for Iran: +5751 cases, +13 deaths since a day ago16:10
xxwhat's a good oxymeter these days? All the ones made after covid seem quick-made in china and show fake 99% all the time.16:44
xxand the market is saturated with these fake ones16:44
LjLxx, they weren't made in china before...?17:15
LjLalso, citation needed17:15
LjLi have one made in china after covid and it doesn't show 99% all the time17:15
LjLin fact i'm lucky when it shows 95 ;(17:16
xxcitation is from me17:16
xxexperience testing the ones available in ukraine pharmacies over the last 2 years17:16
xx(pre-war)17:16
LjLhow did you test them17:17
xxapparently demand suddenly went up and china blasted millions out in a short time with no focus on quality17:17
xxLjL: doctors were comparing them to what they have in hospitals17:17
xxI never tested them myself17:18
LjLhave you considered that cheap amazon non-medical-graded oximeters may have been shit compared to ones in hospitals even *before* the pandemic17:18
xxhence my original question17:18
LjLxx, Contec oximeter with USB port is praised by sleep apnea community, but maybe it's just because it's the only one of its kind (i still just paid it €30), since for me it goes from 98 to 92 in a very volatile manner17:21
LjLnot always sold under Contec brand, but you can recognize it from the USB, and still Chinese17:21
xxI had my eyes on some omron (supposedly made in japan) oxymeter, but it didn't have USB17:21
LjLOmron should be good, probably expensive17:22
BrainstormNew from COVID on Twitter: Eric Topol (@EricTopol): Boosters are essential to provide protection, but that may be slipping as the virus continues to evolve.Not encouraging.From >58,000 hospitalizations in the US during Omicron, through mid-June 2022cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/7… pic.twitter.com/62b8GfEGxZ → https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/154868766053684428817:22
xxyeah I'd be hoping that expensive = accurate, but I know it doesn't work that way17:22
LjLUSB is useful if you want data saved long-term or you want to relay it to a big display17:22
LjLwell Omron has a good reputation for medical stuff17:23
xxI'd like to log it overnight17:23
LjLand it's likely *that* one is medically certified unlike all the ones from China17:23
LjLxx, fyi wearing such a thing (it's still a one-piece oximeter with batteries in it) all night is torture and you need to tape it to your finger17:23
xxI can probably survive torture17:24
LjLthought so17:24
LjLstill, based on my personal experience with the Contec, it's a cool device but i can't recommend it17:24
xxspent a lot of time in hospital when I was a child17:24
xxdon't really have any good memory of what they used to track oxygenation, I think I had something stuck on my finger all the time17:25
xxbut it's a long time ago so it might be a fake memory by now17:25
LjLyeah that's how they do it17:25
LjLbut it only contains the LEDs, the processing is done elsewhere17:25
LjLand it can be a bit more ergonomic17:25
xxI guess I could construct something if I wanted to be fancy, but I'd still need one to verify my solution against17:26
xx(that's probably how the certification process is done)17:26
LjLno the certification is you pay to get CE mark17:26
xxheh true17:26
BrainstormNew from r/COVID19: COVID19: COVID-19 pandemic over 2020 (with lockdowns) and 2021 (with vaccinations): similar effects for seasonality and environmental factors → https://old.reddit.com/r/COVID19/comments/w1a3kj/covid19_pandemic_over_2020_with_lockdowns_and/17:41
xx%title https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27089002/17:46
Brainstormxx: From pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov: The Accuracy of 6 Inexpensive Pulse Oximeters Not Cleared by the Food and Drug Administration: The Possible Global Public Health Implications17:46
xx6 years ago17:46
xxI can't even begin to predict if stuff has gotten better or worse17:47
LjL-Matrixxx: the CMS one it mentions is a Contec18:01
xxyeah I'm making a note of it all, contec seems to come up frequently18:01
LjL-MatrixAnd no these oximeters aren't accurate below 90%, they're made for healthy people18:01
xxguess I only need accuracy in the range 90%-99%18:02
xxbecause if it's lower I know something is bad and need more than just an oximeter to fix that18:02
BrainstormUpdates for Cuba: +68 cases since 22 hours ago18:02
LjL-MatrixQuite18:02
LjL-Matrixxx: I suggest getting one with a graph, all else being equal, because the graph tells you if it's getting a solid reading of your pulse or for some reason it's going all over the place. Perfusion Index maybe useful for the same reason, but, like, just make sure your hands aren't cold18:05
BrainstormNew from COVID on Twitter: Face The Nation (@FaceTheNation): Anyone above the age of 50 who hasn't had a COVID-19 vaccine dose this year should get one, former FDA Commissioner Dr. Scott Gottlieb says, as we wait for an updated booster to be available this fall. pic.twitter.com/glmHadP17R → https://twitter.com/FaceTheNation/status/154870223747991552318:19
BrainstormNew from r/COVID19: COVID19: Effect of ambient air pollution and meteorological factors on the potential transmission of COVID-19 in Turkey → https://old.reddit.com/r/COVID19/comments/w1bclj/effect_of_ambient_air_pollution_and/18:38
de-facto%title https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2022.07.15.22277670v119:02
Brainstormde-facto: From www.medrxiv.org: Efficacy and safety of ensitrelvir in patients with mild-to-moderate COVID-19: A protocol for a multicenter, randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled, phase 3 study (the SCORPIO-SR trial) | [...]19:02
de-factosounds interesting19:02
BrainstormUpdates for Italy: +68996 cases, +79 deaths, +297754 tests since 23 hours ago19:05
BrainstormNew from r/COVID19: COVID19: Impact of mild COVID-19 on balance function in young adults, a prospective observational study → https://old.reddit.com/r/COVID19/comments/w1bymz/impact_of_mild_covid19_on_balance_function_in/19:06
BrainstormUpdates for Japan: +105538 cases, +17 deaths since a day ago20:07
BrainstormNew from COVID on Twitter: Eric Topol (@EricTopol): The world and the BA.5 wave—2nd highest in confirmed cases after Omicron BA.1 with substantially less reported—Uptick in deaths, fortunately much lower than BA.1, due to population immunity wall of vaccines, boosters and infections@OurWorldInData pic.twitter.com/2i8uYgRcjU → https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/154874371247311257621:07
BrainstormUpdates for Kazakhstan: +1562 cases since 21 hours ago — Sri Lanka: +34 cases since a day ago21:10
BrainstormNew from COVID on Twitter: Eric Topol (@EricTopol): OTOH, hospital admissions are up more sharply in many countries that provide their data, overall well below BA.1 levels, for the same reason pic.twitter.com/BNfkHN95PU → https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/154874910399933235321:26
de-facto%title http://outbreaknewstoday.com/anthrax-outbreak-in-lonjsko-polje-croatia-18826/22:12
Brainstormde-facto: From outbreaknewstoday.com: Anthrax outbreak in Lonjsko Polje, Croatia - Outbreak News Today22:12
BrainstormNew from r/COVID19: COVID19: lol there's hypnosis for covid recovery → https://old.reddit.com/r/COVID19/comments/w1gww3/lol_theres_hypnosis_for_covid_recovery/22:50
BrainstormUpdates for France: +73668 cases since a day ago23:02
BrainstormNew from r/COVID19: COVID19: The impact of crowd gatherings on the spread of COVID-19 → https://old.reddit.com/r/COVID19/comments/w1i9to/the_impact_of_crowd_gatherings_on_the_spread_of/23:46

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