libera/##covid-19/ Monday, 2022-12-19

pwr22<LjL-Matrix> "https://help.twitter.com/en/..." <- "alternative social platforms"00:10
pwr22"alternative facts" comes to mind00:10
gryi guess it was handy that the freenode server software didn't have the ability to remove messages00:11
gryand for each group there is a website where they say where they're going to go. in twitter it's individuals and often other twitter participants don't know or don't care what their website is, so they wouldn't know where to look if that guy is gone from twitter00:12
pwr22<LjL> "Let's try our best to make the..." <- I think the plan is to let Twitter die 😛00:14
pwr22Or become essentially Parler / Truth Social v200:14
LjL-MatrixYeah it's not that simple00:14
LjL-MatrixWe still want to keep the social connections00:14
LjL-MatrixWhen things die that contain millions of people, millions of connections die00:15
LjL-Matrixand of course, Twitter's new "rule" of not "promoting" other social media is engineered precisely to achieve this00:15
LjL-Matrixso let's fight it00:15
LjL-MatrixI have a painstakingly curated list of earthquake sources00:16
LjL-Matrixand a relatively large number of followers who follow me for earthquake warnings, which I am currently unable to provide on Mastodon, and in general, Mastodon doesn't expect people to have a location field, so in most cases, I won't be able to tap on Mastodon for my earthquake warning logic00:16
LjL-MatrixThat's my own problem, but there's a ton of people right now with their own problems related to Twitter, they're just not all the same problem00:17
LjL-MatrixI've been pointed to this tool https://movetodon.org/ to automatically find your Twitter connections on Mastodon, but honestly I can't vouch for it in any way: it's not open source, its name will be visible to Twitter API (and who knows what Mr. Musk will want to do to the accounts of those who've used it?), and even its own author doesn't seem to grasp how this is problematic, since he says "yeah, even if I would open source it, you00:20
LjL-Matrixcouldn't be sure that it's indeed the code on the server" (I can't seem to link, but google this in quotes)00:20
pwr22I mean, I'd rather the world exist without a twitter replacement than have Musk's twitter succeed00:24
pwr22But that said, I think that a successor(s) will will end up organically occuring00:24
pwr22"so let's fight it" <- there isn't really a lot that can be done. Elmo can do whatever he wants and he will00:27
pwr22I will set up my own mastodon instance.... that's all I can do 😛00:27
pwr22"and of course, Twitter's new "rule" of not "promoting" other social media is engineered precisely to achieve this" <- I think it's rather to keep people trapped on twitter, maintaining the social connections there00:28
pwr22"who knows what Mr. Musk will want to do to the accounts of those who've used it?" <- lol, 'Musko's Basilisk' 😛00:30
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pwr22Oh lol00:37
eckshttps://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1604617643973124097 let's go00:41
BrainstormNew from Reddit (test): CoronaVirus_2019_nCoV: Association of Time to Surgery After COVID-19 Infection With Risk of Postoperative Cardiovascular Morbidity | Anesthesiology | JAMA Network Open | JAMA Network → https://old.reddit.com/r/CoronaVirus_2019_nCoV/comments/zpbuag/association_of_time_to_surgery_after_covid19/00:41
pwr22Lol, that's like running your own election lol00:41
pwr22That said.... I don't doubt that he has someone lined up if he is gonna hand over the reigns00:44
LjLecks, sure, let's do his work for it and list ourselves as people who are against him... and nothing else, since as to the rest, he can rig the poll as he likes.00:50
BrainstormNew from Reddit (test): nCoV: Global COVID Cases For 18DEC22 → https://old.reddit.com/r/nCoV/comments/zpc07s/global_covid_cases_for_18dec22/00:51
ecksoh no, how will i ever live with being on elon musk's shitlist00:51
LjLi mean, maybe you won't. i mean i wouldn't put anything above this... person.00:58
BrainstormNew from Reddit (test): CoronaVirus_2019_nCoV: GAO: Nursing home COVID outbreaks tied to community spread |Most outbreaks (75%) began with a report of a staff infection → https://old.reddit.com/r/CoronaVirus_2019_nCoV/comments/zpct0d/gao_nursing_home_covid_outbreaks_tied_to/01:29
BrainstormUpdates for New Zealand: +42699 cases since a day ago04:07
BrainstormUpdates for Germany: +1 cases since 2 days ago05:59
BrainstormUpdates for Fukuoka, Japan: +7515 cases, +9 deaths since 23 hours ago — Victoria, Australia: +5796 cases since a day ago — Hiroshima, Japan: +4704 cases, +5 deaths since 23 hours ago — Ibaraki, Japan: +4077 cases, +8 deaths since 23 hours ago07:02
BrainstormNew from Reddit (test): CoronaVirus_2019_nCoV: Long-term perturbation of the peripheral immune system months after SARS-CoV-2 infection | medRxiv → https://old.reddit.com/r/CoronaVirus_2019_nCoV/comments/zpl2w1/longterm_perturbation_of_the_peripheral_immune/08:32
BrainstormNew from Reddit (test): CoronaVirus_2019_nCoV: Suffering from Long COVID headaches and brain fog? Another coronavirus could be the culprit → https://old.reddit.com/r/CoronaVirus_2019_nCoV/comments/zplc8d/suffering_from_long_covid_headaches_and_brain_fog/08:42
BrainstormNew from Reddit (test): CoronaVirus_2019_nCoV: White House Covid doc: Safe to gather, but ... "Those measures include testing, treatment and taking the updated booster; people who haven't gotten a Covid-19 shot in the last six months should get the newest booster," → https://old.reddit.com/r/CoronaVirus_2019_nCoV/comments/zplel4/white_house_covid_doc_safe_to_gather_but_those/08:51
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Daily Discussion Thread | December 19, 2022: Please refer to our Wiki for more information on COVID-19 and our sub. You can find answers to frequently asked questions in our FAQ , where there is valuable information such as our: → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/zplnkh/daily_discussion_thread_december_19_2022/09:01
BrainstormUpdates for Cambodia: +32 cases since 23 hours ago09:06
BrainstormNew from Science-Based Medicine: Do COVID-19 vaccines cause “turbo cancer”?: Over the last several months, antivaxxers have been claiming that COVID-19 vaccines cause "turbo cancer," cancers (or cancer recurrences) of a particularly aggressive and fast-growing variety diagnosed in younger and [... want %more?] → https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/do-covid-19-vaccines-cause-turbo-cancer/09:11
CoJaBoCan confirm, I got vaxxed for Hyper Malaria and it did give me Turbo Cancer. They're treating me with Ultra Violet-radiation.09:17
BrainstormNew from Reddit (test): CoronaVirus_2019_nCoV: Without Guidelines, Docs Make Their Own Long COVID Protocols → https://old.reddit.com/r/CoronaVirus_2019_nCoV/comments/zpm3gv/without_guidelines_docs_make_their_own_long_covid/09:30
BrainstormNew from COVID on Twitter: John Burn-Murdoch (@jburnmurdoch): Excellent thread. Calmly demonstrates that the sharp waves of RSV etc that many countries have been seeing are not due to any “Covid-induced immune impairment” etc, but are simply the results of immunity doing what immunity does, and the basics of [... want %more?] → https://twitter.com/jburnmurdoch/status/160476482085037261010:08
BrainstormNew from r/COVID19: COVID19: Brain autopsies of critically ill COVID-19 patients demonstrate heterogeneous profile of acute vascular injury, inflammation and age-linked chronic brain diseases → https://old.reddit.com/r/COVID19/comments/zpn4yv/brain_autopsies_of_critically_ill_covid19/10:37
BrainstormUpdates for Israel: +1527 cases, +12 deaths since 13 hours ago11:11
BrainstormNew from r/COVID19: COVID19: Clinical experience with the α2A-adrenoceptor agonist, guanfacine, and N-acetylcysteine for the treatment of cognitive deficits in “Long-COVID19” → https://old.reddit.com/r/COVID19/comments/zpnu3x/clinical_experience_with_the_α2aadrenoceptor/11:25
BrainstormNew from COVID on Twitter: (translated) Marc Veldhoen (@Marc_Veld): Any doctor, especially one who claims to have studied infection and vaccination, knows that vaccines do nothing more than briefly stimulate some of your own immune cells: that any side effects are known within 6-8 weeks. This is real anti-vax [... want %more?] → https://twitter.com/Marc_Veld/status/160478509540718182411:35
BrainstormNew from r/COVID19: COVID19: Higher dose corticosteroids in hospitalised COVID-19 patients with hypoxia but not requiring ventilatory support (RECOVERY): a randomised, controlled, open-label, platform trial → https://old.reddit.com/r/COVID19/comments/zpo63r/higher_dose_corticosteroids_in_hospitalised/11:44
BrainstormNew from EMA: What's new: Medicine: Human medicines European public assessment report (EPAR): Shingrix, herpes zoster vaccine (recombinant, adjuvanted), Herpes Zoster, Date of authorisation: 21/03/2018, Revision: 9, Status: Authorised → https://www.ema.europa.eu/en/medicines/human/EPAR/shingrix12:13
BrainstormNew from r/COVID19: COVID19: Surveillance of COVID-19 vaccine safety among elderly persons aged 65 years and older → https://old.reddit.com/r/COVID19/comments/zpoy6i/surveillance_of_covid19_vaccine_safety_among/12:23
BrainstormNew from EMA: Human medicine assessment reports: (news): Human medicines European public assessment report (EPAR): Jcovden (previously COVID-19 Vaccine Janssen), COVID-19 vaccine (Ad26.COV2-S [recombinant]), COVID-19 virus infection, Date of authorisation: 11/03/2021, Revision: [... want %more?] → https://www.ema.europa.eu/en/medicines/human/EPAR/jcovden-previously-covid-19-vaccine-janssen12:33
de-facto%print https://twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/160474874764011929612:54
Brainstormde-facto, It says: Eric Feigl-Ding on Twitter: "⚠️THERMONUCLEAR BAD—Hospitals completely overwhelmed in China ever since restrictions dropped. Epidemiologist estimate &gt;60% of 🇨🇳 &amp; 10% of Earth’s population likely infected over next 90 days. Deaths likely in the millions—plural. This is just the start—🧵 https://t.co/VAEvF0ALg9" / Twitter12:54
de-factoUhmmmm12:54
BrainstormUpdates for Romania: +3386 cases, +31 deaths since 6 days ago13:03
BrainstormNew from Reddit (test): nCoV: Global COVID Cases For 19DEC22 → https://old.reddit.com/r/nCoV/comments/zppuay/global_covid_cases_for_19dec22/13:11
ecksturns out closing down everything for 2.5 years doesn't work13:35
BrainstormUpdates for Hong Kong: +15383 cases, +39 deaths since 22 hours ago — Nepal: +8 cases since 4 days ago13:59
LjL-Matrixecks: how do you define "doesn't work"? Do you think the people who were spared of Delta and may now get the milder Omicron would say it simply "didn't work"?14:08
BrainstormNew from r/COVID19: COVID19: SARS-CoV-2 Omicron (B.1.1.529) Infection of Wild White-Tailed Deer in New York City → https://old.reddit.com/r/COVID19/comments/zpr43k/sarscov2_omicron_b11529_infection_of_wild/14:09
LjL-MatrixAlso Eric Feigl-Ding is always overdramatic, ftr14:09
ecksat no point did it get as bad here as that person is describing China rn14:10
LjL-MatrixSure, it would be better if China did a staggered reopening (not one forced by protests) to manage hospitals better, and it would be better if their vaccines hadn't been pretty bad14:10
LjL-Matrixecks: well guess what, apart from the fact he's well known for hyperbole, it DID as bad as that here14:11
LjL-MatrixSo check your privilege or whatever it is they say14:11
ecksit certainly didn't here14:11
BrainstormUpdates for Iran: +75 cases since 22 hours ago — Saudi Arabia: +59 cases, +2 deaths since a day ago15:01
BrainstormNew from StatNews: Pharma: STAT+: Pharmalittle: FDA adds Lilly diabetes drugs to shortage list; WTO delays decision on extending Covid IP waiver → https://www.statnews.com/pharmalot/2022/12/19/covid19-wto-fda-lilly-diabetes-pfizer-discrimination-sickle-madrigal-nash-truepill/15:17
BrainstormNew from WebMD: How Treating Psoriatic Disease Has Changed: A rheumatologist talks about how psoriatic disease onset and symptoms are different in each patient, how she began using telehealth during the COVID pandemic, and new biologic therapies to treat psoriatic disease. → https://www.webmd.com/skin-problems-and-treatments/psoriasis/features/treatment-psoriatic-disease-changed15:37
BrainstormUpdates for Bosnia and Herz.: +40 cases, +1 deaths since 2 days ago — Bangladesh: +20 cases, +2354 tests since a day ago16:10
BrainstormUpdates for Denmark: +2602 cases, +27 deaths since 2 days ago16:59
BrainstormNew from BBC Health: Government to sue Mone-linked PPE firm for £122m: PPE Medpro won contracts to supply PPE after being recommended by then Tory peer Baroness Mone. → https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-6402904017:27
BrainstormNew from COVID on Twitter: Eric Topol (@EricTopol): The diverse prospects for nanomedicine to tackle Covid-induced clotting and related inflammationnature.com/articles/s4156…@NatureNano @peijerussell @NicoVoelcker @MIPS_Australia pic.twitter.com/25DyKFvYvG → https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/160487717740882740017:37
BrainstormNew from StatNews: Congress reaches major health policy deal on Medicare, Medicaid, and pandemic preparedness: Leaders in Congress have reached a sweeping deal to ease Medicare pay cuts to doctors, make major changes to post-pandemic Medicaid [... want %more?] → https://www.statnews.com/2022/12/19/congress-reaches-major-health-policy-deal-on-medicare-medicaid-and-pandemic-preparedness/17:47
BrainstormNew from COVID on Twitter: Marc Veldhoen (@Marc_Veld): Effect of Ivermectin 600 µg/kg for 6 days vs Placebo on Time to Sustained Recovery in Outpatients with Mild to Moderate COVID-19: A Randomized Clinical Trial IVM does not work against COVID-19, no improvement of any of the parameters tested.medrxiv.org/content/10.110… → https://twitter.com/Marc_Veld/status/160488270684796109017:57
BrainstormUpdates for Canada: +1637 cases, +21 deaths since 18 hours ago18:02
BrainstormNew from COVID on Twitter: (translated) Marc Veldhoen (@Marc_Veld): Vaccination against HPV infections can prevent a very large part of cervical cancer. But of course that is only possible if you do take the vaccines. twitter.com/penguinone/sta… → https://twitter.com/Marc_Veld/status/160488666959301836918:16
BrainstormUpdates for Cuba: +27 cases since a day ago19:10
BrainstormNew from WebMD: Long COVID Risk Makes It Worth Avoiding Second Infections: New research suggests that those infected more than once have an increased risk of developing long COVID and other health problems compared to those infected just once. But parsing out the extent of [... want %more?] → https://www.webmd.com/covid/news/20221219/long-covid-risk-makes-it-worth-avoiding-second-infections19:15
BrainstormNew from COVID on Twitter: (translated) Marc Veldhoen (@Marc_Veld): Important thread on NEJM article that some antivaxers say is being misinterpreted again with cherry picked quotes. Vaccinating works, and the 4th also had the expected effect! And yes: that is positive. twitter.com/penguinone/sta… → https://twitter.com/Marc_Veld/status/160490577244977562219:34
BrainstormNew from The Atlantic: Consider Armadillo COVID: This past spring, Amanda Goldberg crouched in the leafy undergrowth of a southwestern Virginia forest and attempted to swab a mouse for COVID. No luck; its nose was too tiny for her tools. “You never think about nostrils until you [... want %more?] → https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2022/12/covid-animals-wildlife-mutation/672512/20:42
BrainstormUpdates for China: +23978 cases, +68 deaths since 3 days ago — Guangdong, China: +3516 cases since 5 days ago — Beijing, China: +1814 cases since 5 days ago — Chongqing, China: +838 cases since 6 days ago21:02
BrainstormNew from COVID on Twitter: SH1954 Silvia (@SH19544): @Marc_Veld @muumi_tweets I have shared this yesterday. It doesn't work. Kowa in Japan will also not apply for registration while due to their publicity worldwide people claimed that ivermectin solved the covid-19 problem  japantimes.co.jp/news/2022/10/0… → https://twitter.com/SH19544/status/160492910996425113621:12
BrainstormUpdates for France: +98021 cases, +258 deaths since 3 days ago — South Korea: +87559 cases, +56 deaths since 23 hours ago22:05
BrainstormNew from COVID on Twitter: Marc Veldhoen (@Marc_Veld): COVID spreading faster than ever in China. 800 million could be infected this winterConcerning for the people, concerning for supply chains, concerning for all. npr.org/sections/goats… → https://twitter.com/Marc_Veld/status/160494661785278054522:10
BrainstormNew from Contagion Live: us: Bivalent Booster Provides Protection Against Severe COVID-19, Possible Hospitalization → https://www.contagionlive.com/view/bivalent-booster-provides-protection-against-severe-covid-19-possible-hospitalization22:39
BrainstormNew from COVID on Twitter: Scott Gottlieb, MD (@ScottGottliebMD): Bloomberg News — “Why Didn't China Prepare Better to Prevent Covid-19 Deaths?”  bloomberg.com/opinion/articl… → https://twitter.com/ScottGottliebMD/status/160495731574831923522:59
BrainstormUpdates for Canada: +849 cases since 5 hours ago23:07
BrainstormNew from COVID on Twitter: (translated) Marc Veldhoen (@Marc_Veld): Meta-analysis: vaccinations protect better than a "natural" infection; 50-60%, and over 12 months. twitter.com/penguinone/sta… → https://twitter.com/Marc_Veld/status/160496798750044160823:38

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