| Brainstorm | Updates for Mali: +8 cases, +167 tests since a day ago | 00:00 |
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| de-facto | LjL-Matrix, are you sure they want to decomission it? | 01:03 |
| de-facto | i just installed it on a new device and had no indication that it would not work or such | 01:04 |
| de-facto | also beaconscope sees other exposure notification beacons in my environment | 01:04 |
| de-facto | so from that alone it looks like its functioning as usual | 01:04 |
| de-facto | with the official google stack and corona warn app in germany | 01:05 |
| LjL-Matrix | de-facto: the Italian app was very clearly stated to be decommissioned, and Google and Apple had promised to decommission the whole system | 01:33 |
| LjL-Matrix | de-facto: https://www.immuni.italia.it/ | 01:35 |
| de-facto | LjL-Matrix, if the whole system was decommissioned, why can i download the official app from the playstore and activate it exactly as before? | 01:37 |
| LjL-Matrix | I don't know, because they say one thing and then do another, I guess | 01:37 |
| de-facto | https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.rki.coronawarnapp | 01:38 |
| LjL-Matrix | I don't even care anymore, the whole system has been mostly useless, and mostly a testbench for Google and Apple to implement widely tracking UWB technology | 01:38 |
| de-facto | its just there officially and works | 01:38 |
| de-facto | why would they decommission it? its a well working system by now | 01:38 |
| de-facto | everybody can decide if participation is desired they can go for it, if not there is no info leak, so both interests are perfectly served | 01:39 |
| LjL-Matrix | "why would they decommission it" because they said they would is not a good enough reason? | 01:40 |
| LjL-Matrix | and LOL a well working system | 01:40 |
| LjL-Matrix | look just pretend i never said anything | 01:40 |
| LjL-Matrix | it's not the right day | 01:40 |
| -Bridgestorm- 🌖 Temblor? Sismo? Earthquake? Maybe strong tremor, with 40 reports, possibly occurred 5 minutes ago (00:44:27 UTC), during a gibbous moon night, Bogotá, Colombia (4.64, -74.09) ± 16 km likely felt 70 km away (Twitter) | 01:50 | |
| de-facto | technically it does what it says, so in that regard it works well (with what it got) | 01:56 |
| de-facto | https://www.coronawarn.app/en/analysis/ | 01:58 |
| de-facto | Sunday 656k warnings, 252k green warnings (low risk) and 404k red warnings (high risk) | 02:00 |
| LjL | technically you don't know that because you'd have to know how many of the warnings were false negatives, given Bluetooth distance estimation technology was basically just invented on the spot | 02:01 |
| de-facto | 48M downloads 240M test results | 02:01 |
| de-facto | yes its as good as it gets with current technology (e.g. without a dedicated technology desigend for that purpose) | 02:02 |
| de-facto | but yeah right now i receive one beacon through the ceiling for example so you do have a point | 02:04 |
| LjL | de-facto, they have designed it, and it is in current iPhones and some Samsungs and Pixels, it's called UWB | 02:04 |
| LjL | and this has basically been a test for it | 02:04 |
| LjL | look it up | 02:04 |
| LjL | iPhones with UWB keep the UWB radio on even when the phone is off | 02:04 |
| LjL | and it basically acts as a giant mesh network for Apple | 02:05 |
| LjL | without public APIs of course | 02:05 |
| LjL | connected to: AirTag scandals | 02:05 |
| de-facto | ah you mean with those apple buttons or how they are called | 02:05 |
| de-facto | airtags yeah | 02:05 |
| de-facto | heh nice, thats what i was demanding back then when they used BT for that (the time of travel measurements with low jitter hw) | 02:08 |
| de-facto | "Apple iPhone 11, 12, 13, and 14; Google Pixel 6 Pro and 7 Pro; Samsung Galaxy Note20, Galaxy S21, Galaxy S22, Galaxy Z Fold 2, Galaxy Z Fold 3, Galaxy Z Fold 4; Xiaomi MIX4" | 02:09 |
| de-facto | hmm i have none of those :/ | 02:09 |
| de-facto | hmm so the chips use the range of 3-8 GHz | 02:14 |
| de-facto | meaning comparable penetration through walls to e.g. 5G wifi or such? | 02:15 |
| de-facto | 3.1 to 10.6 GHz with −41.3 dBm/MHz | 02:16 |
| de-facto | probably more like −75 dBm/MHz | 02:17 |
| de-facto | so i guess position will be quite accurate with time of flight measurements, yet it does not know if there is air exchange possible or not | 02:20 |
| de-facto | hence maybe should be combined with e.g. ultrasonic pings that are only used in case of some potential proximity is detected electromagnetically | 02:20 |
| ublx | next up, pheromone releasing/sensing iphones | 02:21 |
| de-facto | how about artificial nose to detect respiratory diseases :D | 02:22 |
| de-facto | there are projects with 90% and better accuracy for COVID iirc, but if those are miniaturization-capable or not idk | 02:23 |
| LjL | ublx, nah, you don't get it, they don't give a shit about diagnosing diseases, it's all about... other business. but as long as de-facto is enthusiastic about the medical aspect... | 02:25 |
| de-facto | i am enthusiastic about technology in general, i would be more enthusiastic if i could play with the API ofc | 02:27 |
| ublx | ofc they will need a much more sophisticated hybrid wetware nervous system to deal with all the new bandwidth | 02:27 |
| ublx | everyone's looking at ChatGPT and supercomputers, meanwhile the iphones are evolving opposable thumbs | 02:28 |
| de-facto | the smartphones have changed our life a lot, just look at how people communicate, how they use it for medical things as well as e.g. making things more transparent such as war etc | 02:30 |
| de-facto | but yeah closed APIs are not so nice, yet may possibly allow for introducing a new technology, at some point they should be opened though | 02:31 |
| LjL | %print https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/1622628419120009216 | 02:31 |
| Brainstorm | LjL, It says: Eric Topol on Twitter: "Excess mortality among American physicians during the Covid pandemic https://t.co/fGHu44FE9R "Active physicians had lower excess mortality than nonactive physicians despite their higher risk " @JAMAInternalMed https://t.co/gMEhQ2ibRc" / Twitter | 02:31 |
| ublx | inactive physicians tending older? | 02:32 |
| LjL | https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/fullarticle/2800889 gold | 02:32 |
| LjL | ublx, more actually importantly, compare to general population in the graph | 02:33 |
| LjL | this graph https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FoS7ZyHaAAEjW7c?format=jpg&name=large if inshallah you can open it | 02:33 |
| de-facto | better trained immune system over all for the active group? | 02:35 |
| LjL | it's all within confidence interval, i take it as little more than an in-joke | 02:36 |
| de-facto | i mean that physicians in general are more healthy makes a bit of sense since they studied that | 02:36 |
| LjL | maybe yes | 02:36 |
| LjL | also they may be up to speed on how to irradiate themselves with the right type of UWB | 02:37 |
| LjL | they should make a study about excess deaths in physicians who use Apple devices vs Android ones | 02:37 |
| de-facto | lol come on, if those tags can survive on battery for such long time the energy is very low | 02:38 |
| * LjL rolls eyes | 02:38 | |
| ublx | greater insight (mediating self medication and self care, better access to health care | 02:38 |
| LjL | yes, that's totally my concern | 02:38 |
| LjL | ublx, maybe they are that 0.5% of the population who has access to Paxlovid! | 02:39 |
| ublx | and yes ofc healthier and luckier than general population | 02:39 |
| de-facto | you mean maybe if its a physician they get treated better? that would be... | 02:39 |
| de-facto | but yeah LjL statement makes sense, they certainly are in the group that got access to the latest treatment methods, while in general population that depends on many factors | 02:43 |
| de-facto | i would like to know what they mean with non-active physician. those that have another reason to stop practicing such as a disease? | 02:46 |
| van1 | covid was made by the government | 03:02 |
| ublx | which government, just out of curiosity? | 03:03 |
| van1 | isis | 03:03 |
| ublx | oh i see | 03:03 |
| ublx | welp, thank you for letting us know | 03:03 |
| ublx | lol | 03:03 |
| LjL | interesting remark | 03:35 |
| LjL | %print https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/1622630928014266368 | 03:35 |
| Brainstorm | LjL, It says: Eric Topol on Twitter: "A study today purports a healthy lifestyle before Covid was associated with reduced risk of #LongCovid. That doesn't align with my experience at all—that affected individuals were remarkably health conscious and fit https://t.co/zYAnqeihUu @JAMAInternalMed https://t.co/IY1H9Fprs9" / Twitter | 03:35 |
| LjL | OGod, mIRC, a connoisseur's choice | 03:38 |
| OGod | used it a lot long ago | 03:47 |
| OGod | seems pretty lacking on scripts and addons..people seem less chatty too | 03:48 |
| OGod | hexchat an upgrade? | 03:55 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Norway: +53 cases since a day ago — Eq. Guinea: +20 cases since 6 days ago — Ivory Coast: +12 cases, +552 tests since 3 days ago | 04:09 |
| Brainstorm | New from Nature Vaccines: Smriti Mallapaty: What the WHO’s new treaty could mean for the next pandemic → https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-023-00358-w | 04:46 |
| Brainstorm | New from Outbreak News Today: Texas: Rabid cow in Cooke County, 5 people exposed: NewsDesk @bactiman63 The Sheriff’s Office in Cooke County, Texas announced that a cow had tested positive for rabies in Cooke County. According to the release from Sheriff Ray Sappington, the 10-year-old, [... want %more?] → http://outbreaknewstoday.com/texas-rabid-cow-in-cooke-county-5-people-exposed-47023/ | 04:55 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Science: science: A new study, Authored in part by Dr. Anthony Fauci: "Rethinking next-generation vaccines for coronaviruses, influenzaviruses, and other respiratory viruses" states: "A next generation of improved vaccines for mucosa-replicating viruses will [... want %more?] → https://old.reddit.com/r/science/comments/10vr92v/a_new_study_authored_in_part_by_dr_anthony_fauci/ | 05:05 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Germany: +19646 cases, +164 deaths since 2 days ago | 06:01 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: COVID in California: Masks again required at 4 Marin County schools → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/10vs7yd/covid_in_california_masks_again_required_at_4/ | 06:11 |
| OGod | Twitter: "Excess mortality among American physicians during the Covid pandemic https://t.co/fGHu44FE9R "Active physicians had lower excess mortality than nonactive physicians despite their higher risk " @JAMAInternalMed https://t.co/gMEhQ2ibRc" / Twitter - I think the title is more of a joke..higher risk isnt really well defined here.. | 07:00 |
| OGod | They could be out because of their health, retired or otherwise.they could have a way higher risk already | 07:00 |
| OGod | Ahh just some clickbait is too silly for me | 07:02 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for New Jersey, United States: +5563 cases, +10 deaths since 3 days ago — North Rhine-Westphalia, Germany: +5061 cases, +17 deaths since 3 days ago — Bavaria, Germany: +4210 cases, +28 deaths since 3 days ago — Baden-Wurttemberg, Germany: +2343 cases, +24 deaths since 3 days ago | 07:10 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Yes, masks reduce the risk of spreading COVID, despite a review saying they don’t → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/10vubdi/yes_masks_reduce_the_risk_of_spreading_covid/ | 07:26 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/COVID19: COVID19: Prior vaccination enhances immune responses during SARS-CoV-2 breakthrough infection with early activation of memory T cells followed by production of potent neutralizing antibodies → https://old.reddit.com/r/COVID19/comments/10vvz7q/prior_vaccination_enhances_immune_responses/ | 08:41 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Daily Discussion Thread | February 07, 2023: Please refer to our Wiki for more information on COVID-19 and our sub. You can find answers to frequently asked questions in our FAQ , where there is valuable information such as our: → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/10vwcw7/daily_discussion_thread_february_07_2023/ | 09:09 |
| Brainstorm | New from Reddit (test): I just got a close contact alert from the COVID-19 app: I didn’t even know that the app was still working, but here I am with a close contact notification. Within 2 metres for 15 mins or more. But honestly I’m just happy anyone is still [... want %more?] → https://old.reddit.com/r/CoronavirusUK/comments/10vwmyr/i_just_got_a_close_contact_alert_from_the_covid19/ | 09:28 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Taiwan: +23379 cases, +45 deaths since a day ago — Uttarakhand, India: +11 cases since 7 days ago — Odisha, India: +9 cases since a day ago | 10:05 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Japan: +44755 cases, +161 deaths since 23 hours ago — Lithuania: +589 cases since 23 hours ago | 11:01 |
| Brainstorm | New from PubMed: David E Leaf: Author Correction: Therapeutic advances in COVID-19 → https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36747084/ | 11:04 |
| Brainstorm | New from Reddit (test): nCoV: How the “Unvaccinated” Got It Right | 31JAN23 → https://old.reddit.com/r/nCoV/comments/10vzsws/how_the_unvaccinated_got_it_right_31jan23/ | 12:48 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Slovenia: +296 cases since 23 hours ago | 13:05 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Science: science: ‘Major Leap’ in Bird Virus Threatens Yet Another Pandemic → https://old.reddit.com/r/science/comments/10vztwa/major_leap_in_bird_virus_threatens_yet_another/ | 13:07 |
| Brainstorm | New from EMA: What's new: Contact listing page: Vaccine Monitoring Platform → https://www.ema.europa.eu/en/about-us/what-we-do/crisis-preparedness-management/vaccine-monitoring-platform | 13:36 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/COVID19: COVID19: COVID-19: The Many Ways to Hurt Your Heart → https://old.reddit.com/r/COVID19/comments/10w0te6/covid19_the_many_ways_to_hurt_your_heart/ | 13:55 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Poland: +1445 cases, +6 deaths since a day ago — Indonesia: +392 cases, +9 deaths since a day ago | 14:01 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Science: science: An estimated 622 extra deaths occurred among U.S. doctors aged 45 and over from the pandemic's onset in March 2020 through December 2021. Excess deaths to physicians didn't subside until April 2021, soon after the introduction of COVID-19 vaccines → https://old.reddit.com/r/science/comments/10w23kt/an_estimated_622_extra_deaths_occurred_among_us/ | 14:52 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Malta: +104 cases, +2 deaths, +1974 tests since 6 days ago | 15:04 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Singapore: +631 cases since a day ago | 16:06 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Vaccine uptake higher among people who knew someone who died of COVID-19: U.S. survey → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/10w4nad/vaccine_uptake_higher_among_people_who_knew/ | 16:49 |
| Brainstorm | New from BMJ Open: Anxiety and stress among healthcare professionals during COVID-19 in Ethiopia: systematic review and meta-analysis: Objective This study intended to assess the impact of COVID-19 pandemic on anxiety and stress among healthcare professionals in Ethiopia. Design This study applied a design of systematic [... want %more?] → http://bmjopen.bmj.com/cgi/content/short/13/2/e070367 | 17:18 |
| Brainstorm | New from WebMD: (news): The Truth Behind Viral Videos Linking COVID Vaccine to Spasms, Shakes → https://www.webmd.com/vaccines/covid-19-vaccine/news/20230207/truth-behind-viral-videos-linking-covid-vaccine-shaking | 17:47 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Netherlands: +1356 cases since 3 days ago | 18:05 |
| peetaur | that last article was terrible... it doesn't mention actual proof like some alleged to die are still alive; instead it just lists a bunch of things that are both caused by covid or the vaccine saying it can trigger it and therefore say it's nothing at all related to the vaccine... | 18:34 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/COVID19: COVID19: Is it bad, is it good, or is IgG4 just misunderstood? → https://old.reddit.com/r/COVID19/comments/10w762l/is_it_bad_is_it_good_or_is_igg4_just_misunderstood/ | 18:35 |
| Brainstorm | New from ProPublica: From Penis Cookies to Spying: A Growing List of Allegations at Anchorage City Hall: by Kyle Hopkins and Emily Goodykoontz , Anchorage Daily News This article was produced for ProPublica’s Local Reporting Network in partnership with the Anchorage Daily News. Sign up [... want %more?] → https://www.propublica.org/article/alaska-anchorage-mayor-bronson-city-hall-scandals | 18:45 |
| LjL-Matrix | <OGod> "hexchat an upgrade?" <- HexChat is also old and slowly updated, it is what it is, IRC is not dying but it's certainly sleeping a little bit | 19:03 |
| LjL-Matrix | This very channel is bridged with Matrix which is gaining a lot of traction | 19:03 |
| LjL-Matrix | I'm wondering if my bot has already stopped being able to grab stuff from Twitter... I'm not seeing the usual tweet dumps | 19:04 |
| LjL-Matrix | But maybe it's just I broke the server again | 19:05 |
| hanzii | mIRC > HexChat | 19:11 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Monaco: +9 cases, +1 deaths since 22 hours ago — Canada: +112 cases, +3 deaths since a day ago | 20:03 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: First molecular detection of SARS-CoV-2 virus in cockroaches - Biologia → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/10w855g/first_molecular_detection_of_sarscov2_virus_in/ | 20:59 |
| LjL | cockroaches? O.o | 21:27 |
| LjL | really, it can make its way into insects? | 21:27 |
| LjL | ah, they do not get infected, but they can carry it around | 21:28 |
| LjL | a peculiar paper | 21:30 |
| Brainstorm | New from Reddit (test): CoronaVirus_2019_nCoV: An overview of current accomplishments and gaps of COVID-19 vaccine platforms and considerations for next generation vaccines - ScienceDirect → https://old.reddit.com/r/CoronaVirus_2019_nCoV/comments/10wd3h8/an_overview_of_current_accomplishments_and_gaps/ | 22:09 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/COVID19: Pericarditis and 4 Weeks Pregnant: Has anyone been diagnosed with pericarditis in their first trimester? I am hesitant to take colchicine and aspirin as prescribed, but I know I have to. → https://old.reddit.com/r/COVID19/comments/10wdlxj/pericarditis_and_4_weeks_pregnant/ | 22:29 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Morocco: +18 cases, +1945 tests since 23 hours ago | 23:04 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/COVID19: COVID19: Associations of COVID-19 Symptoms with Omicron Subvariants BA.2 and BA.5, Host Status, and Clinical Outcomes: A Registry-Based Observational Study in Sapporo, Japan → https://old.reddit.com/r/COVID19/comments/10wepfb/associations_of_covid19_symptoms_with_omicron/ | 23:17 |
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