| Brainstorm | New from COVID on Twitter: Eric Topol (@EricTopol): This also relates to the very interesting report of #SARSCoV2 spike protein found in the skull-meninges-brain axis todaytwitter.com/EricTopol/stat… → https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/1644099853738471426 | 00:11 |
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| dmb_ | talked to doc today, they said ER would laugh you out after waiting 3 hours if I went it for a fever of 103 at my age | 00:28 |
| ublix | dmb_: which country is this in? | 00:33 |
| dmb_ | US | 00:33 |
| ublix | what did the doctor say was a temperature that does merit medical attention? | 00:34 |
| dmb_ | ER hospitals are known to be very very slow here | 00:34 |
| dmb_ | he said 105-106 | 00:34 |
| dmb_ | to get urgent help if so | 00:34 |
| ublix | so | 00:35 |
| ublix | 103 = bust out laughing | 00:35 |
| ublix | 105 = get urgent help | 00:35 |
| dmb_ | basically | 00:35 |
| ublix | seems legit | 00:35 |
| dmb_ | he didn't say laugh you out technically, but said they will tell you to go home eventually | 00:36 |
| ublix | wonder if this view was in the context of covid where fever is expected | 00:36 |
| ublix | ie i wonder what view would be taken of 103+ fever with no apparent cause | 00:37 |
| dmb_ | yeah, could be true, 103+ without cause might raise some flags | 00:37 |
| dmb_ | but could also be flu i guess? | 00:37 |
| ublix | i only had a high fever once, when i was about 10 or so. not that i can remember it, but a doctor was called | 00:39 |
| ublix | but what does that actually feel like? | 00:40 |
| dmb_ | headaches, cold, achy | 00:40 |
| ublix | i mean, 103 and beyond, is your thinking degraded? | 00:40 |
| dmb_ | maybe a little dizzy | 00:40 |
| dmb_ | i can't stand up for long | 00:40 |
| ublix | and that's at 103? | 00:41 |
| dmb_ | and once that fever breaks though, you feel so warm, my cheeks were red and sweat | 00:41 |
| dmb_ | for me at least, mainly feel cold and want to bundle more | 00:41 |
| dmb_ | which of course isn't that good | 00:41 |
| ublix | presumably things deteriorate in a non-linear fashion as you go past 104,105 | 00:41 |
| ublix | i mean, if you live alone, will you be able to "get urgent medical help" if you're at 105? | 00:42 |
| dmb_ | i guess its a 911 call at that point if you are alone | 00:42 |
| dmb_ | i don't know | 00:42 |
| dmb_ | doctor seemed pretty confident I am fine | 00:42 |
| ublix | you're fever is receding? | 00:44 |
| dmb_ | i told him it was 102, he said that is fine | 00:44 |
| dmb_ | its up and down | 00:44 |
| dmb_ | probably from tylenol | 00:44 |
| dmb_ | tylenol = acetaminophen here | 00:45 |
| ublix | = paracetamol here in UK | 00:46 |
| ublix | you ever do anything like cold water soaked face cloth on your forehead? | 00:47 |
| dmb_ | thats a hard name to market it seems | 00:47 |
| dmb_ | actually yeah, not because it helps, but because it feels good | 00:47 |
| ublix | hmm | 00:47 |
| dmb_ | cools me down when fever breaks | 00:47 |
| dmb_ | was tempted to do a coolish shower also | 00:47 |
| ublix | spose you want to time the last allowable acetaminophen dose for the day for best effect right before sleep | 00:49 |
| dmb_ | yeah, thats a pain actually | 00:50 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID on Twitter: Eric Topol (@EricTopol): How Covid is transmitted in households, via a prospective study and dense longitudinal testing (through Alpha variant wave)thelancet.com/journals/lanmi… @LancetMicrobe Hands and surfaces play a role pic.twitter.com/xxNC1Natwb → https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/1644112620041928712 | 01:09 |
| LjL | <Brainstorm> New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: WHO official criticizes China's 'inexcusable' lack of transparency on pandemic's origins → https://old.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/12dzybb/who_official_criticizes_chinas_inexcusable_lack/ | 01:13 |
| LjL | ublix, when i went up to 103, i mostly slept. except in 2016 which was the most recent i had such a fever, i was feeling... just really quite bad. it only lasted one day though | 01:14 |
| LjL | (except i feel that's what kickstarted my on and off malaise) | 01:14 |
| dmb_ | yeah, its hard to described, but just doesn't feel good | 01:16 |
| dmb_ | like a dizzish feeling, shivery, headachy, muscle achy | 01:16 |
| LjL | dmb_, don't exceed 3000mg a day of acetaminophen (or less, if you've told less, but that's the maximum normal dose outside of hospital settings). it is a useful drug and it is very tolerable in normal amount for short periods, but large amounts or long periods make your liver very sad | 01:16 |
| LjL | just something to keep in mind | 01:17 |
| dmb_ | yeah | 01:17 |
| dmb_ | i am alternating between ibuprofen for that reason | 01:17 |
| LjL | i usually don't take more than 1000mg, but i also don't often get your degree of fever, so use common sense, but basically, as long as your fever is safely below "danger" levels, you don't necessarily need to get it lower | 01:17 |
| dmb_ | although thanks for letting me know about nausea, now I know its not from covid but meds | 01:18 |
| LjL | well covid could also cause it, but yeah ibuprofen on an empty stomach is much harder on your stomach, in the short term, than paracetamol is on your liver (in the short term) | 01:18 |
| ublix | i mean, i've had fever as an adult. i've experienced how acetaminophen can pull you back across the line of feeling unwell. just never fever high enough to start thinking about medical attention | 01:22 |
| ublix | but i know people who have gone into hospital with fever, and had the third party helper account of how they couldn't have done it on their own. i don't recall what the temperatures involved were | 01:23 |
| ublix | i guess i'm curious at what temp you start losing capacity to think and physically act in your own interest | 01:24 |
| ublix | LjL: is this the sort of transparency the WHO is looking for: https://twitter.com/WHO/status/1243972193169616898 | 01:29 |
| LjL | for me that would be around 40 | 01:29 |
| ublix | ^ leaving up a tweet as some sort of mea culpa years after everyone has forgotten we once (were told to) believe it wasn't airborne | 01:30 |
| LjL | ublix, for all i know the WHO is looking for their own assholes | 01:30 |
| LjL | why do you think it's a mea culpa as opposed to simply not caring about the tweet still being up | 01:30 |
| ublix | i was trying to creatively fit the 3 year old tweet to a notion of transparency :p | 01:31 |
| LjL | Musk gave it transparency by way of allowing readers' context | 01:32 |
| LjL | although who the hell knows which readers | 01:32 |
| LjL | but at least they're right. this time. | 01:32 |
| LjL | (i assume it's only writable by people with a blue checkmark) | 01:32 |
| LjL | "Notes aren't chosen by majority rule. Community Notes identifies notes that are found helpful by and for people with different points of view." | 01:33 |
| LjL | "Twitter doesn't choose what shows up: the people do." | 01:33 |
| LjL | sounds very slightly contradictory | 01:33 |
| ublix | is there a note attached to each note indicating which twitteratu found it useful? | 01:34 |
| LjL | no | 01:34 |
| LjL | there is just a "Find out more" that lists those two things and another two | 01:35 |
| LjL | it says the "top tags selected by users though" | 01:36 |
| LjL | which in this case were | 01:36 |
| LjL | Top tags selected by raters | 01:36 |
| LjL | Directly addresses the Tweet’s claim | 01:36 |
| LjL | Provides important context | 01:36 |
| LjL | and it tells you that "commendable sky peacock" wrote the note | 01:36 |
| LjL | but that says nothing because it's an alias, not their actual Twitter name | 01:36 |
| LjL | "Note status computed by open-source algorithm CoreModel (v1.0)" | 01:37 |
| LjL | https://communitynotes.twitter.com/guide/en/under-the-hood/ranking-notes#multi-model-note-ranking | 01:37 |
| LjL | enjoy | 01:37 |
| ublix | peacocks are not skyborne! | 01:37 |
| ublix | but i suppose it has to be commended for its computer use skills | 01:37 |
| Brainstorm | New from Science Daily: Physicians should be on alert for group A strep as cases experience historic rise, study finds: The U.S. experienced an unprecedented number of group A streptococcal infections in children from October to December of 2022, which should alert physicians to check for the potentially deadly [... want %more?] → https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2023/04/230406190358.htm | 02:08 |
| LjL | yaaaaaay all the bugs that were hidden for two years are really feasting now | 02:10 |
| Brainstorm | New from Reddit (test): CoronaVirus_2019_nCoV: Arijit Chakravarty on Twitter: "Nature microbiology paper showing that SC2 infection alters host cell DNA epigenetically. In plain English- there could be *very* long term consequences to covid infections, ones [... want %more?] → https://old.reddit.com/r/CoronaVirus_2019_nCoV/comments/12e3ndi/arijit_chakravarty_on_twitter_nature_microbiology/ | 03:55 |
| Brainstorm | New from BBC Health: Covid origins: Chinese scientists publish long-awaited data: A peer-reviewed study connects the virus with animals sold in the market linked with early cases. → https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-65204169 | 04:05 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for UAE: +739 cases, +78484 tests since 3 days ago | 04:12 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Germany: +2412 cases, +132 deaths since 13 hours ago — Syria: +10 cases since 5 days ago | 05:02 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/COVID19: COVID19: Virological characteristics of the SARS-CoV-2 Omicron XBB.1.16 variant → https://old.reddit.com/r/COVID19/comments/12e9kti/virological_characteristics_of_the_sarscov2/ | 06:31 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Morocco: +57 cases since 13 days ago | 07:00 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID on Twitter: Michael Lin, MD PhD (@michaelzlin): That's basically what happened with @nytimes and this week's Nature article. But after their terribly politicized and infantilized coverage of the actual science of the pandemic, it's not too much of a surprise anymore.(n/n)twitter.com/mbalter/status… → https://twitter.com/michaelzlin/status/1644229167100354561 | 08:48 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Daily Discussion Thread | April 07, 2023: Please refer to our Wiki for more information on COVID-19 and our sub. You can find answers to frequently asked questions in our FAQ , where there is valuable information such as our: → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/12ecqkp/daily_discussion_thread_april_07_2023/ | 09:07 |
| Brainstorm | New from Science-Based Medicine: Yes, Schools Were Closed in Sweden: "I had kids in grades 4, 7, and 8 when the pandemic broke out. The latter two were remote for a year and then hybrid for another 6 months or so." The post first appeared on Science-Based Medicine . → https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/yes-schools-were-closed-in-sweden/ | 09:48 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for India: +6050 cases, +14 deaths, +160742 tests since a day ago | 11:03 |
| Brainstorm | New from ProPublica: Homeless Shelters Aren’t Equipped to Deal With New Mexico’s Most Troubled Foster Kids. Police See It for Themselves.: by Ed Williams , Searchlight New Mexico , and Joel Jacobs , ProPublica This story contains depictions of mental illness and [... want %more?] → https://www.propublica.org/article/police-intervene-foster-kids-in-crisis-new-mexico-homeless-shelters | 11:24 |
| Brainstorm | New from Reddit (test): CoronaVirus_2019_nCoV: In rare cases COVID-19 can cross placenta, causing fetal brain damage, study says | in two cases, the novel coronavirus infection breached the placenta and caused brain damage in the newborns. → https://old.reddit.com/r/CoronaVirus_2019_nCoV/comments/12ef8yc/in_rare_cases_covid19_can_cross_placenta_causing/ | 11:33 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/COVID19: COVID19: Comparing Clinical Outcomes of COVID-19 and Influenza-Induced Acute Respiratory Distress Syndrome: A Propensity-Matched Analysis → https://old.reddit.com/r/COVID19/comments/12efxgq/comparing_clinical_outcomes_of_covid19_and/ | 12:03 |
| Brainstorm | New from ProPublica: IRS Strategic Plan Vows to Amp Up Audits of the Rich: by Jeff Ernsthausen ProPublica is a nonprofit newsroom that investigates abuses of power. Sign up to receive our biggest stories as soon as they’re published. Flush with $80 billion in new funding, the IRS is aiming to ramp [... want %more?] → https://www.propublica.org/article/irs-strategic-plan-wealth-tax-dodgers | 12:22 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Science: science: Surveillance of SARS-CoV-2 at the Huanan Seafood Market | Nature → https://old.reddit.com/r/science/comments/12eg5qw/surveillance_of_sarscov2_at_the_huanan_seafood/ | 12:32 |
| Brainstorm | New from Reddit (test): CoronavirusUK: COVID-19 spread in households linked to virus on hands and surfaces | Imperial News | Imperial College London → https://old.reddit.com/r/CoronavirusUK/comments/12egurd/covid19_spread_in_households_linked_to_virus_on/ | 12:41 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID on Twitter: Florian Krammer (@florian_krammer): Great characterization of XBB.1.16 twitter.com/SystemsVirolog… → https://twitter.com/florian_krammer/status/1644292762890563584 | 13:01 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/COVID19: COVID19: Effectiveness of full (booster) COVID-19 vaccination against severe outcomes and work absenteeism in hospitalized patients with COVID-19 during the Delta and Omicron waves in Greece → https://old.reddit.com/r/COVID19/comments/12ei7y7/effectiveness_of_full_booster_covid19_vaccination/ | 13:39 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/COVID19: COVID19: Changes in social behavioral developmental risks in preschool children after the first COVID-19 wave: a prospective longitudinal cohort study → https://old.reddit.com/r/COVID19/comments/12ejnmu/changes_in_social_behavioral_developmental_risks/ | 14:28 |
| Brainstorm | New from Reddit (test): Covid2019: In memory of YASMIN PENA (age 18) from Connecticut who died of coronavirus back in 2020 One of the youngest coronavirus victims (when i first read about her online, it made me take coronavirus much more seriously) → https://old.reddit.com/r/Covid2019/comments/12ekau0/in_memory_of_yasmin_pena_age_18_from_connecticut/ | 14:57 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Russia: +8915 cases, +38 deaths since a day ago | 15:07 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID on Twitter: Marc Veldhoen (@Marc_Veld): Seasonality of Respiratory Syncytial Virus — United States, 2017–2023 | MMWR (cdc.gov)The pandemic, introduction of a new virus and the measures to limit his virus effect have had an effect on the virus season, especially Influenza and RSV. → https://twitter.com/Marc_Veld/status/1644327089678561282 | 15:17 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID on Twitter: Marc Veldhoen (@Marc_Veld): Household infection rate was 28·4% for pre-alpha-exposed contacts and 51·8% for alpha-exposed contacts.Primary cases' URT RNA viral load did not correlate with transmission, but was associated with detection of SARS-CoV-2 RNA on their hands. → https://twitter.com/Marc_Veld/status/1644339979282423808 | 16:06 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Indonesia: +619 cases, +2 deaths since 22 hours ago — Hong Kong: +98 cases since 22 hours ago | 16:09 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID on Twitter: (translated) Gunhild Alvik Nyborg (@GANyborg): If you are a healthcare professional and need sources where you can update yourself on what the condition is about, symptoms and possible measures, there are many useful links here. whn.global/long-covid-cli… → https://twitter.com/GANyborg/status/1644342149863858178 | 16:17 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID on Twitter: Eric Topol (@EricTopol): XBB subvariants are starting to crowd out XBB.1.5 in the US without notable change in clinical outcomes. XBB.1.16 is here and not shown by @CDCgov tally, likely the one to overtake in the weeks aheadcovid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tra…nytimes.com/interactive/20… [... want %more?] → https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/1644354908899119104 | 17:06 |
| Brainstorm | New from ClinicalTrials.gov: (news): Incidence of Severe COVID-19 Infection in Patients With CLL or B-NHL Who Received Pre-exposure Prophylaxis With Tixagevimab and Cilgavimab in Italy: an Observational Study by the GIMEMA WP on Chronic Lymphoproliferative Disorders and by the FIL → https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT05803395 | 17:16 |
| Brainstorm | New from ClinicalTrials.gov: (news): Building Resilience During the COVID-19 Pandemic: a Randomized Controlled Trial → https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT05802875 | 17:26 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Without other pandemic precautions, hospital mask rules didn't stop COVID spread, study finds → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/12eseuo/without_other_pandemic_precautions_hospital_mask/ | 19:24 |
| Brainstorm | New from WebMD: Long COVID Hitting Some States, Minorities, Women Harder: The Census Bureau found that while 27% of adults have gotten long COVID, the condition has impacted some states more than others. The proportion of residents hit with long COVID ranged from a low of 18.8% [... want %more?] → https://www.webmd.com/covid/news/20230407/long-covid-hitting-some-states-minorites-women-harder | 19:53 |
| Brainstorm | New from Virology.ws: An mRNA Vaccine to Treat Cancer: by Gertrud U. Rey There are several highly effective vaccines that block infection by human papillomaviruses (HPVs) and thereby prevent the cervical, anogenital, and head and neck cancers caused by these viruses. However, none of these vaccines are [... want %more?] → https://virology.ws/2023/04/07/an-mrna-vaccine-to-treat-cancer/ | 21:21 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Births in Italy hit record low in 2022, population shrinks further → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/12ex8p7/births_in_italy_hit_record_low_in_2022_population/ | 21:59 |
| Brainstorm | New from Contagion Live: The Week's Top Stories: Breakthrough COVID, FDA Approvals, and More: This week's most-read stories discussed unforeseen consequences of the COVID-19 pandemic, including an increase in gastrointestinal diseases and a decrease in childhood asthma diagnoses. → https://www.onclive.com/view/the-week-s-top-stories-breakthrough-covid-fda-approvals-and-more | 22:09 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID on Twitter: Eric Topol (@EricTopol): Independent replication of some reduction (~25-30%) of #LongCovid with Paxlovid treatment versus controls, among non-hospitalized, vaccinated people with acute Covidmedrxiv.org/content/10.110… @rushin311 @SarjuGanatraMD and colleagues @LaheyMedicine [... want %more?] → https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/1644437837495021568 | 22:38 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID on Twitter: Eric Topol (@EricTopol): Characterization of the growth advantage of XBB.1.16 compared with XBB, XBB.1.5, with its increased fitness that will likely account for it replacing the current variantsbiorxiv.org/content/10.110… by @SystemsVirology → https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/1644445140977844224 | 23:07 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Florida health officials removed key data from COVID vaccine report → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/12f0q9e/florida_health_officials_removed_key_data_from/ | 23:56 |
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