libera/##covid-19/ Saturday, 2023-08-26

BrainstormNew from Ars Technica: Health: Global COVID monitoring is crashing as BA.2.86 variant raises alarm → https://arstechnica.com/?p=196349800:22
LjLThe slow trickle of data on BA.2.86 is part of a larger, dramatic plummet in COVID-19 surveillance and reporting in general. Last October, WHO's technical lead for COVID-19, Maria Van Kerkhove, noted, "The number of sequences that the world and our expert networks are evaluating has dropped by more than 90 percent since the start of the year. That limits our ability to really track each of these [omicron subvariants]."00:41
LjLIn a press conference Friday morning, Van Kerkhnove highlighted that even basic reporting is failing. Of 234 countries and territories, WHO is now only getting case count data from 103 countries. Only 54 countries are reporting deaths, just 19 are reporting hospitalization rates, and 17 are reporting data on intensive care utilization.00:41
LjLso, we're doing "good".00:41
BrainstormNew from ##covid-19 Zotero group: Global COVID monitoring is crashing as BA.2.86 variant raises alarm: Item Type Web Page Author Beth Mole URL https://arstechnica.com/health/2023/08/global-covid-monitoring-is-crashing-as-ba-2-86-variant-raises-alarm/ Date 8/25/2023 Accessed 2023-08-25 22:43:09 Language en-us Abstract [... want %more?] → https://www.zotero.org/groups/covid_links/items/4HXI79G300:50
Vyrusdo we have any severity data on  BA.2.86" yet ? still can't see much on it03:24
Vyrusif it escapes all sorts of immunity, including the immunity of the shots getting rolled out in the upcoming weeks, is there any point in some people getting their next booster? so many questions03:25
LjLno we don't04:06
LjLVyrus, i think past experience shows that 1) a booster helps, even if quite suboptimally if for the wrong variant, and 2) a booster's help wanes quite quickly after just 4 months or so, meaning most people's boosters have waned (modulo T-cells that may still be helpful)04:07
LjLgiven this, i'd take a booster04:07
LjLi'd definitely much prefer one for the right variant04:07
Vyrusalso it probably protects against Eris, if I remember correctly04:08
LjLbut i doubt one will be delivered on a magic spaceship ;(04:08
LjLi don't know which one Eris is04:08
VyrusI think it was the EG.5.104:08
LjLwell if it's a derivative of XBB, then probably04:08
LjLwhat bugs me the most is that the FDA estimates vaccines for the middle of September, meaning Europe will get them considerably later, meaning we'll have a peak before any boosters04:09
LjLthis week's cases in Italy are twice last week's, and it's not because of more testing04:09
LjL(in fact, there's barely any testing, yet you can see the ratio climbing)04:10
BrainstormNew from This Week In Virology: TWiV 1038: Clinical update with Dr. Daniel Griffin: In his weekly clinical update, Dr. Griffin discusses modeling poliovirus transmission and responses in New York State, FDA approves first vaccine for pregnant individuals to prevent RSV in infants, prevention and control of seasonal influenza with [... want %more?] → https://www.microbe.tv/twiv/twiv-1038/06:18
BrainstormNew from r/COVID19: COVID19: Meditation-induced bloodborne factors as an adjuvant treatment to COVID-19 disease → https://old.reddit.com/r/COVID19/comments/161nr19/meditationinduced_bloodborne_factors_as_an/09:01
BrainstormNew from r/Science: science: Giving young children the world’s first malaria vaccine RTS,S/AS01E alongside antimalarial drugs before the rainy season has led to a significant reduction in life-threatening malaria cases and deaths for over five years → https://old.reddit.com/r/science/comments/161p06q/giving_young_children_the_worlds_first_malaria/10:18
Vyruswhoooaa that study is really cool !  "Meditation elevates SERPINA5, a major player in coagulation and the immune response."13:09
BrainstormNew from Retraction Watch: Weekend reads: Australia focuses on misconduct; Retraction Watch prevails in a lawsuit; scammers threaten data quality: Would you consider a donation to support Weekend Reads, and our daily [... want %more?] → https://retractionwatch.com/2023/08/26/weekend-reads-australia-focuses-on-misconduct-retraction-watch-prevails-in-a-lawsuit-scammers-threaten-data-quality/13:11
Vyrusserpina5 is protein C inhibitor (PCI), wiki says: "PCI communicated by malignant cells smothers tumor invasion by hindering urokinase-sort plasminogen activator, and restrains tumor development and metastasis which is independent of its protease inhibitory activity"13:11
Vyrusso it's also anti-cancer. Wow man. Added to my anticancer bookmarks. We should all meditate routinely13:12
Vyrusresearching covid treatments has been a very informative journey lol13:13
VyrusSitting cross-legged and humming "Om" could boost your body's own tumor roadblock and give some extra defense against covid ? That's some next level sci-fi sh1t right there13:23
BrainstormNew from Contagion Live: us: Expert Perspectives on Testing Guidance for COVID-19, RSV, and Influenza Virus → https://www.contagionlive.com/view/expert-perspectives-on-testing-guidance-for-covid-19-rsv-and-influenza-virus14:38
Vyrushttps://www.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/161r70i/did_you_see_that_scary_new_study_on_long_covid/16:09
Vyrus "At 2 years, risks remained elevated for 31% and 65% of the sequelae in nonhospitalized and hospitalized individuals, respectively". They highlight specific organ systems more likely to still be significantly impacted at 2 years. This is very far from good news.16:10
Vyrusin this new study there's also a new part that goes into 30% increased risk of diabetes TWO YEARS out16:11
Vyrusthat's nuts16:12
Vyrusoh wait, it's not a good quality research..... and mods removed this post.16:14
Vyrusok thats good lol, almost gave me a heart attack16:15
Vyrushttps://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-023-02521-2#Sec1016:16
Vyrusit doesn't look like a low quality research though, it's on nature...16:17
burymods removed it where?16:17
Vyrusthe post is still there you can read the reddit thread, but mods replaced original author's post with a warning - it's confusing16:18
Vyrussomeone else could go through it and find out if it's good or bad , I'll go sleep now16:20
ublxor, Vyrus, you could just read the first comment: https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/161r70i/did_you_see_that_scary_new_study_on_long_covid/jxtcoex/16:24
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: UMass Memorial reinstates staff mask mandate after 'dramatic increase' in COVID cases → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/161vy68/umass_memorial_reinstates_staff_mask_mandate/16:25
ublxand, Vyrus, note that it's talking about a slate.com article and not a nature article16:26
Vyrusit seems the slate article is referring to that nature article I shared, in first paragraph though,16:27
Vyrusah I see, the slate one is misinterpreting things, anyways, the first comment's mentions sound bad, that's what I was interested in. Sounds like first comment is reliable then, good16:31
BrainstormNew from r/COVID19: COVID19: Excess All-Cause Mortality in China After Ending the Zero COVID Policy → https://old.reddit.com/r/COVID19/comments/161xh4v/excess_allcause_mortality_in_china_after_ending/17:03
BrainstormNew from r/Science: science: New research has found that in the two months after China halted its zero COVID policy at the end of 2022, 1.87 million excess deaths occurred in that country. → https://old.reddit.com/r/science/comments/161xzn0/new_research_has_found_that_in_the_two_months/17:32
BrainstormNew from r/COVID19: COVID19: IgG4 Antibodies Induced by Repeated Vaccination May Generate Immune Tolerance to the SARS-CoV-2 Spike Protein → https://old.reddit.com/r/COVID19/comments/161zp8e/igg4_antibodies_induced_by_repeated_vaccination/18:30
BrainstormNew from Eric Topol on Mastodon: (news): Current status of SARS-CoV-2 (and BA.2.86) → https://mstdn.social/@erictopol/11095707950627548519:27
BrainstormNew from Eric Topol on Mastodon: (news): Erroneous headline regarding the BA.2.86 variant → https://mstdn.social/@erictopol/11095709663779054119:37

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