Tashtari | Does anyone know of an external fan controller with a driver in linux so you can use it with fancontrol? | 03:20 |
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Xenguy | Never heard of it | 03:30 |
TwistedFate | does devuan have live iso's? | 04:17 |
Xenguy | I bet fsmithred knows | 04:18 |
fsmithred | huh? | 04:19 |
fsmithred | TwistedFate, yes, devuan has a desktop-live and a minimal-live | 04:19 |
fsmithred | go to files.devuan.org and you can see all the isos and images. | 04:20 |
* golinux can't believe that TwistedFate asked that question | 04:25 | |
baimafeima | hi does devuan come with a libre-kernel? | 10:51 |
baimafeima | is it possible to run the guix package manager in devuan? | 10:52 |
gnarface | what's a libre kernel? | 10:54 |
gnarface | it comes with the same kernels that debian does | 10:54 |
gnarface | i don't know about guix | 10:54 |
Digit | youtube-dl needing update? i'm noticing increasing failed yt vid plays. n i get my ytdl from ceres... does cere's hang on sid's coat-tails? | 11:08 |
gnarface | yes, ceres corresponds to sid | 11:10 |
Digit | corresponds, but, can be ahead, or has to wait for sid first? | 11:11 |
gnarface | there's nothing ahead of sid | 11:11 |
gnarface | well there's experimental but it doesn't count because it's not a complete distro | 11:12 |
Digit | oh yeah. i forgot about experimental. used to use it in vsido (vastone's deb respin). | 11:13 |
gnarface | so yes, effectively it has to "wait" for some sid packages to get rebuilt but for most the packages there isn't a wait because there isn't a need to rebuild | 11:13 |
KatolaZ | baimafeima: the kernel shipped with Devuan is free of binary blobs already | 11:16 |
baimafeima | KatolaZ, I see, thanks | 11:35 |
baimafeima | gnarface, https://www.gnu.org/software/guix/ | 11:36 |
baimafeima | gnarface, I wonder if it's possible to run this "universal" package manager on Devuan and thereby increasing package availability | 11:36 |
Digit | hrm. something's gone wrong for me i see now. https://pkginfo.devuan.org/cgi-bin/d1pkgweb-query?search=youtube-dl&release=ceres shows youtube-dl-2018.09.10-1, but even after apt-get update, the newest i see on offer in apt/synaptic is now 2018.06.18-1.1 | 12:24 |
fsmithred | Digit, 2018.09.10-1 is in ceres | 12:27 |
Digit | yep. and so, why wont my ceres update to show it? and how can i remedy that? | 12:28 |
Digit | too sleepy to figure out what i've done wrong (to my sources.list perhaps) such that the package list wont update. | 13:11 |
Digit | one for the morning. n_n | 13:11 |
fsmithred | sorry, I was off reading other stuff. Digit use deb.devuan.org in sources.list. | 13:24 |
Digit | i just sorted it this second as your nickping chimed. n_n just removed all entries n added just a plain gb ceres with main contrib non-free. can see the 2018.09.10-1 youtube-dl now. all shoudl be well. :) | 13:25 |
Digit | probably would have been solved easier, without mention, if i'd not started on it already sleepy. n_n | 13:26 |
fsmithred | computing in your sleep can be dangerous | 14:57 |
fsmithred | question for those who don't like dbus: Which is more detestable - dconf or gconf? | 14:58 |
ryuujin | or the less detestable | 14:58 |
fsmithred | either way, I'm asking you to pick your poison | 15:00 |
fsmithred | background: I'm upgrading my beowulf no-dbus install, and it wants to install dbus-x11 and dbus. One of the options that aptitude gives me is to replace dconf with gconf. | 15:01 |
detha | dconf uses some binary format. gconf at least uses xml. | 15:03 |
detha | not much better, but at least readable | 15:03 |
ryuujin | but gconf is becoming obsolete | 15:03 |
fsmithred | oh yeah, thanks for that reminder | 15:04 |
fsmithred | well, I already let it install gconf - it was the only way I could do a full upgrade and keep all my apps | 15:04 |
fsmithred | without pinning dconf-service to ascii version | 15:05 |
ryuujin | detha: i hate gvdb format too | 15:05 |
detha | yeah. I wish there was something like the way postfix handles it: key-value stores are plaintext, with postmap to compile it into a binary for fast lookups. | 15:07 |
detha | binary corrupted? no problem, rebuild it. | 15:08 |
DocScrutinizer05 | gconf is a mess but at least a mess that's not too complictaed to understand and deal with | 19:27 |
* DocScrutinizer05 generally despises all registry-alike single-point-of-failure concepts | 19:29 | |
Humpelstilzchen | E: Release file for http://de.mirror.devuan.org/merged/dists/ascii/InRelease is expired (invalid since 1h 32min 29s). Updates for this repository will not be applied. | 20:04 |
Humpelstilzchen | anyone? | 20:04 |
KatolaZ | uh? | 20:06 |
KatolaZ | checking all the mirrors now | 20:06 |
Humpelstilzchen | thx, systemclock is correct btw | 20:07 |
KatolaZ | they are all in sync | 20:07 |
KatolaZ | Humpelstilzchen: have you got the IP? | 20:07 |
KatolaZ | hold on | 20:07 |
KatolaZ | you should not use mirror.devuan.org in ASCII | 20:07 |
KatolaZ | only deb.devuan.org | 20:07 |
KatolaZ | -_- | 20:07 |
KatolaZ | Humpelstilzchen: ^^^ | 20:08 |
Humpelstilzchen | ok | 20:08 |
Humpelstilzchen | whatever the difference is between both | 20:08 |
KatolaZ | *.mirror.devuan.org will be dismissed | 20:09 |
KatolaZ | it's put together by the original amprolla, and has several glitches | 20:09 |
KatolaZ | deb.devuan.org is merged by amprolla3 | 20:09 |
KatolaZ | and actually has several mirrors behind | 20:10 |
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