| xrogaan | do devuan mirrors debian's repo index or redirect to debian's repo index? | 05:34 |
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| xrogaan | Or rather: how does it work? | 05:34 |
| xrogaan | is it explained somewhere, a wiki? | 05:34 |
| golinux | xrogaan: I just looked up this to put on the new website: https://git.devuan.org/devuan-infrastructure/amprolla3 | 05:40 |
| golinux | Perfect timing. | 05:40 |
| golinux | This breaks it down nicely: href="https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=3192 | 05:41 |
| golinux | Those 2 links will tell you everything you want to know | 05:42 |
| xrogaan | but whenever I `apt update', do I hit the merged one? | 05:44 |
| xrogaan | Meaning I'll need to wait for a new merge to see any change, right? | 05:44 |
| golinux | Huh? | 05:44 |
| golinux | It updates all the time. | 05:45 |
| golinux | Have you looked at those links? | 05:46 |
| xrogaan | I'm just frustrated about debian's policy with kernel backports. | 05:46 |
| golinux | KatolaZ's slides are crystal clear | 05:46 |
| xrogaan | I mean, surely, it doesn't create a merge every time somebody request an update. | 05:47 |
| xrogaan | there has to be some kind of cache. | 05:47 |
| golinux | href="https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=3192 | 05:47 |
| golinux | Please there | 05:47 |
| xrogaan | I'm looking at it | 05:47 |
| xrogaan | a reverse proxy perhaps? | 05:49 |
| golinux | https://git.devuan.org/devuan-infrastructure/amprolla3 | 05:49 |
| golinux | Have at it | 05:50 |
| golinux | From the slides: "apt only sees standard HTTP redirects" | 05:51 |
| xrogaan | I'm not talking about packages, but the structure of the repo. So you merge the data in a Packages.gz file which is store until the next merge. | 05:53 |
| pekman | /quit | 07:01 |
| systemdlete | Is beowulf still in test? When I go to download it, it looks like the other releases; no indication of beta or RC | 08:48 |
| golinux | Beta is in the repos | 08:48 |
| golinux | Has been for a week | 08:49 |
| systemdlete | Oh, I see. The ISO's themselves are labeled BETA, rather than the directories. | 08:49 |
| golinux | :) | 08:49 |
| systemdlete | yeah, I got your info | 08:49 |
| golinux | Have fun. I'm off to bed | 08:49 |
| systemdlete | I just thought, wow, maybe it was already OUT for real. But I knew that was not likely the case. | 08:49 |
| systemdlete | Good night, golinux. | 08:50 |
| golinux | Ta-ta! | 08:50 |
| systemdlete | The beowulf beta install went well except for the missing beowulf repo. | 10:51 |
| systemdlete | but I can boot into it without issue, and into my other partitions/OS's also. | 10:51 |
| systemdlete | The partitioning step went smooth as silk. I was able to select the pre-partitioned slice I wanted to install to, on a GPT (with EFI BIOS, because it is an old board). There is nothing to report other than the missing repo. | 10:53 |
| systemdlete | This went much, much better than Ascii, so nice job everyone. | 10:53 |
| systemdlete | (and thank you for making it possible) | 10:53 |
| systemdlete | oops. Almost forgot: That was the netinstall ISO | 10:55 |
| systemdlete | I could try burning the full version and see how that goes | 10:55 |
| xrogaan | anybody here uses apparmor? Is it a good idea to install it? | 15:04 |
| sixwheeledbeast | It comes automatically with ubuntu. Never had much of an issue with it there. | 15:10 |
| xrogaan | I'm not very exited about the prospect of creating new profiles for apparmor. | 15:20 |
| MinceR | it's like selinux, only even worse | 15:38 |
| MinceR | instead of labeling files, it labels paths | 15:38 |
| MinceR | so it's easier to work around | 15:38 |
| sixwheeledbeast | There is a separate package with a fair amount of profiles | 15:40 |
| gnarface | it hasn't caused a problem for me yet | 15:53 |
| gnarface | can't say the same for selinux | 15:53 |
| fsmithred | it comes with beowulf, too. | 15:55 |
| fsmithred | I haven't done anything with it. | 15:55 |
| fsmithred | ping mason (and anyone else using zfs) - https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=3380 | 15:55 |
| fsmithred | looks like apparmor is there because linux-image recommends it. Should be easy to avoid it. | 15:57 |
| mason | fsmithred: looking | 15:58 |
| fsmithred | thanks | 15:58 |
| mason | Oh, interesting, haven't seen that set of instructions yet. Cool. | 15:58 |
| mason | fsmithred: Ah, that issue. So, I never use whole disks here. That's a bit of history from when ZFS did custom access if it had a whole disk, and that's not been the case for some years. What I do and strongly recommend is that users slap down a formal partition table and feed ZFS partitions. That works very well and is largely future-proof. | 16:00 |
| mason | There isn't a performance impact any more, so using a partition table is identical performance-wise to whole disks, and a little more controllable. | 16:00 |
| fsmithred | are you registered at the forum and feel like answering? | 16:01 |
| fsmithred | (if not, I'll do it) | 16:01 |
| mason | This may come across as unreasonable, but I really hate web fora and I try not to use them. This is my principle objection to how Slackware self-organizes. | 16:02 |
| fsmithred | mason, that's a fairly common attitude in our community | 16:03 |
| fsmithred | lol | 16:03 |
| mason | I wish it were more common! Heh. | 16:03 |
| * Wonka seconds hating web fora | 16:40 | |
| golinux | The Devuan forum is for the most part much like irc but permanently searchable | 17:43 |
| kiwi_58 | hi, I got the bug-reporting pc A to the buggy one B in different ip spaces, because Android hotspot distinguishes two lan fragments, one for wifi and one for usb connect. Did anybody have clue how to have A reach B via ssh ip-node and -I suppose iptable voodoo? Tia. | 17:50 |
| kiwi_58 | sorry if my networking is bad though too. | 18:03 |
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